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From: Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>
To: Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Cc: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefanos@xilinx.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Julien Grall <julien.grall@gmail.com>,
	Stewart Hildebrand <Stewart.Hildebrand@dornerworks.com>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/4] xen: introduce SYMBOL
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 15:22:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b5db4517-8ff7-bf90-a315-2ad115acf033@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5C41B3EE020000780020EFA5@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>

Hi Jan,

On 18/01/2019 11:09, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 18.01.19 at 11:48, <julien.grall@arm.com> wrote:
>> On 18/01/2019 09:54, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>> On 18.01.19 at 02:24, <sstabellini@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 17 Jan 2019, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 17.01.19 at 01:37, <sstabellini@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jan 2019, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>> Stop. No. We very much can prove they are - _end points at
>>> one past the last element of _start[]. It is the compiler which
>>> can't prove the opposite, and hence it can't leverage
>>> undefined behavior for optimization purposes.
>>
>> You keep saying the compiler can't leverage it for optimization purpose, however
>> there are confirmations that GCC may actually leverage it (e.g [1]). You
>> actually need to trick the compiler to avoid the optimization (e.g RELOC_HIDE).
> 
> Correct - that's the case I'm referring to when saying it can't leverage
> undefined behavior optimizations anymore. Without the hiding of
> course it can.

But this trick is GCC specific, right? So we would need to have one trick for 
each compiler we support. Note that the solution originally suggested by Stefano 
has the same issue (i.e return unsigned long).

Cheers,

-- 
Julien Grall

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-18 15:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-09 23:41 [PATCH v6 0/4] misc safety certification fixes Stefano Stabellini
2019-01-09 23:42 ` [PATCH v6 1/4] xen: introduce SYMBOL Stefano Stabellini
2019-01-10  2:40   ` Julien Grall
2019-01-10  8:24     ` Jan Beulich
2019-01-10 17:29       ` Stefano Stabellini
2019-01-10 18:46         ` Stewart Hildebrand
2019-01-10 19:03           ` Stefano Stabellini
2019-01-11 10:35           ` Jan Beulich
2019-01-11 17:01             ` Stefano Stabellini
2019-01-10 19:24         ` Julien Grall
2019-01-10 21:36           ` Stefano Stabellini
2019-01-10 23:31             ` Julien Grall
2019-01-11  2:14               ` Stefano Stabellini
2019-01-11  6:52                 ` Juergen Gross
2019-01-11 16:52                   ` Stefano Stabellini
2019-01-11 10:48                 ` Jan Beulich
2019-01-11 18:04                   ` Stefano Stabellini
2019-01-11 18:53                     ` Stewart Hildebrand
2019-01-11 20:35                       ` Julien Grall
2019-01-11 20:46                         ` Stewart Hildebrand
2019-01-11 21:37                           ` Stefano Stabellini
2019-01-14  3:45                             ` Stewart Hildebrand
2019-01-14 10:26                               ` Jan Beulich
2019-01-14 21:18                                 ` Stefano Stabellini
     [not found]                                   ` <1CACC1FB020000D800417A66@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
2019-01-15  8:21                                     ` Jan Beulich
2019-01-15 11:51                                       ` Julien Grall
     [not found]                                         ` <AB1DA25B020000B95C475325@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
2019-01-15 12:04                                           ` Jan Beulich
2019-01-15 12:23                                             ` Julien Grall
     [not found]                                               ` <BAE986750200003A5C475325@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
2019-01-15 12:44                                                 ` Jan Beulich
2019-01-15 20:03                                       ` Stewart Hildebrand
2019-01-16  6:01                                         ` Juergen Gross
2019-01-16 10:19                                         ` Jan Beulich
2019-01-17  0:37                                           ` Stefano Stabellini
     [not found]                                             ` <B4D3ABC30200003B88BF86FB@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
     [not found]                                               ` <529ED2F90200004D00417A66@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
2019-01-17 11:45                                                 ` Jan Beulich
2019-01-18  1:24                                                   ` Stefano Stabellini
     [not found]                                                     ` <76A2DEED0200005600417A66@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
2019-01-18  9:54                                                       ` Jan Beulich
2019-01-18 10:48                                                         ` Julien Grall
     [not found]                                                           ` <9F511FC70200005E5C475325@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
2019-01-18 11:09                                                             ` Jan Beulich
2019-01-18 15:22                                                               ` Julien Grall [this message]
     [not found]                                                                 ` <3A8206D8020000035C475325@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
2019-01-21  9:39                                                                   ` Jan Beulich
2019-01-21  9:34                                                             ` Jan Beulich
2019-01-21 10:22                                                               ` Julien Grall
     [not found]                                                                 ` <E16AB350020000435C475325@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
2019-01-21 10:31                                                                   ` Jan Beulich
2019-01-21 23:15                                                                     ` Stefano Stabellini
     [not found]                                                                       ` <5EA2B4FA0200008000417A66@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
2019-01-22  9:06                                                                         ` Jan Beulich
2019-01-18 23:05                                                         ` Stefano Stabellini
2019-01-21  5:24                                                           ` Stewart Hildebrand
     [not found]                                                           ` <5A96F2FD0200008D00417A66@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
2019-01-21  9:50                                                             ` Jan Beulich
2019-01-21 23:41                                                               ` Stefano Stabellini
2019-01-22  6:08                                                                 ` Juergen Gross
     [not found]                                                                 ` <42A2C4FA0200009000417A66@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
2019-01-22  9:16                                                                   ` Jan Beulich
2019-02-01 18:52                                                                     ` George Dunlap
2019-02-01 20:53                                                                       ` Stefano Stabellini
     [not found]                                                             ` <58377FAD0200004688BF86FB@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
2019-01-21 10:06                                                               ` Jan Beulich
2019-02-06 15:41                                                                 ` Ian Jackson
     [not found]                                           ` <C8F95655020000CAB8D7C7D4@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
     [not found]                                             ` <5867EFE6020000DB00417A66@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
     [not found]                                               ` <DACE7A5F020000B1B8D7C7D4@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
2019-02-07 14:51                                                 ` Jan Beulich
2019-01-15 23:36                                       ` Stefano Stabellini
2019-01-16  8:47                                         ` Juergen Gross
     [not found]                                         ` <2EA6D6FD0200001F00417A66@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
2019-01-16 10:25                                           ` Jan Beulich
2019-01-17  0:41                                             ` Stefano Stabellini
     [not found]                                               ` <4EA2F2F90200004D00417A66@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
2019-01-17 11:46                                                 ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]                                     ` <95DC675902000028AB59E961@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
2019-02-04  9:37                                       ` Jan Beulich
2019-02-04 19:08                                         ` Stefano Stabellini
2019-02-05  6:02                                           ` Juergen Gross
     [not found]                                           ` <2E9DDEFD0200007B00417A66@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
2019-02-05  7:53                                             ` Jan Beulich
2019-02-05 14:56                                         ` George Dunlap
     [not found]                                           ` <E730A9F90200001DAB59E961@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
2019-02-06 11:59                                             ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]                                 ` <7A8C0A4F020000EEB8D7C7D4@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
2019-02-06 16:21                                   ` Jan Beulich
2019-02-06 16:37                                     ` Ian Jackson
     [not found]                                       ` <08D440470200001BB8D7C7D4@prv1-mh.provo.novell.com>
2019-02-06 16:47                                         ` Jan Beulich
2019-02-06 16:52                                           ` Ian Jackson
2019-02-06 23:39                                             ` Stefano Stabellini
2019-02-07 11:48                                               ` Ian Jackson
2019-02-07 18:18                                                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2019-02-12 11:31                                                   ` Ian Jackson
2019-02-13  0:09                                                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2019-01-15 11:46                             ` Julien Grall
2019-01-15 12:23                               ` Julien Grall
2019-01-14 10:11                     ` Jan Beulich
2019-01-14 15:41                       ` Julien Grall
2019-01-14 15:52                         ` Jan Beulich
2019-01-14 16:26                           ` Stewart Hildebrand
2019-01-14 16:39                             ` Jan Beulich
2019-01-14 16:28                           ` Julien Grall
2019-01-14 16:44                             ` Jan Beulich
2019-01-14 17:24                               ` Julien Grall
2019-01-15  8:04                                 ` Jan Beulich
2019-01-10 17:22     ` Stefano Stabellini
2019-01-10  8:34   ` Jan Beulich
2019-01-10 18:09     ` Stefano Stabellini
2019-01-09 23:42 ` [PATCH v6 2/4] xen/arm: use SYMBOL when required Stefano Stabellini
2019-01-10  8:41   ` Jan Beulich
2019-01-10 17:44     ` Stefano Stabellini
2019-01-11 10:52       ` Jan Beulich
2019-01-11 16:58         ` Stefano Stabellini
2019-01-14  9:23           ` Jan Beulich
2019-01-09 23:42 ` [PATCH v6 3/4] xen/x86: " Stefano Stabellini
2019-01-10  8:43   ` Jan Beulich
2019-01-10 17:45     ` Stefano Stabellini
2019-01-09 23:42 ` [PATCH v6 4/4] xen/common: " Stefano Stabellini
2019-01-10  8:49   ` Jan Beulich
2019-01-10 17:48     ` Stefano Stabellini

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