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From: Benjamin GAIGNARD <benjamin.gaignard@st.com>
To: Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"viresh.kumar@linaro.org" <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Hugues FRUCHET <hugues.fruchet@st.com>,
	"mchehab@kernel.org" <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	"mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com" <mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com>,
	Alexandre TORGUE <alexandre.torgue@st.com>,
	"pavel@ucw.cz" <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	"len.brown@intel.com" <len.brown@intel.com>,
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	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/3] Introduce cpufreq minimum load QoS
Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 09:17:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b8757472-c973-a32d-d5c9-a584d7d703f8@st.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jhjmu6tc6rz.mognet@arm.com>



On 4/30/20 5:50 PM, Valentin Schneider wrote:
> On 30/04/20 16:37, Benjamin GAIGNARD wrote:
>> On 4/30/20 4:33 PM, Valentin Schneider wrote:
>>> On 30/04/20 14:46, Benjamin GAIGNARD wrote:
>>>>> That's not what I meant.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suppose that the interrupt processing in question takes place in
>>>>> process context and so you may set the lower clamp on the utilization
>>>>> of the task carrying that out.
>>>> I have try to add this code when starting streaming (before the first
>>>> interrupt) the frames from the sensor:
>>>> const struct sched_attr sched_attr = {
>>>>      .sched_util_min = 10000, /* 100% of usage */
>>> Unless you play with SCHED_CAPACITY_SHIFT, the max should be 1024 -
>>> i.e. SCHED_CAPACITY_SCALE. That's a really big boost, but that's for you to
>>> benchmark.
>>>
>>>>      .sched_flags = SCHED_FLAG_UTIL_CLAMP_MIN,
>>>>     };
>>>>
>>>> sched_setattr(current, &sched_attr);
>>>>
>>>> I don't see any benefices maybe there is some configuration flags to set.
>>>>
>>>> How changing sched_util_min could impact cpufreq ondemand governor ?
>>>> Does it change the value returned when the governor check the idle time ?
>>>>
>>> You'll have to use the schedutil governor for uclamp to have an effect. And
>>> arguably that's what you should be using, unless something explicitly
>>> prevents you from doing that.
>> Even with schedutil and SCHED_CAPACITY_SCALE that it doesn't work.
>> cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq values are always on the max value even if the
>> stats show transitions between the available frequencies.
>>
>> I see two possibles reasons to explain that:
>> - sched_setattr() is called in userland process context, but the
>> threaded irq handler is running in another process.
> Ah yes, this only works if the task you boost is the one that will handle
> whatever work you care about (in this case handling the irq). That said, if
> you do use threaded IRQs, that should give you a SCHED_FIFO thread, which
> should drive the frequency to its max when using schedutil (unrelated to
> uclamp).
Can I conclude that sched_setattr() isn't the good way to solve this 
problem ?
Does my patches make sense in this case ?

>> - because this use case is almost running all in hardware the process
>> isn't doing anything so the scheduler doesn't take care of it.
>>
>>>>> Alternatively, that task may be a deadline one.

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From: Benjamin GAIGNARD <benjamin.gaignard@st.com>
To: Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>
Cc: "len.brown@intel.com" <len.brown@intel.com>,
	Alexandre TORGUE <alexandre.torgue@st.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"viresh.kumar@linaro.org" <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	"pavel@ucw.cz" <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>,
	"mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com" <mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com>,
	Hugues FRUCHET <hugues.fruchet@st.com>,
	"mchehab@kernel.org" <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	"linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com"
	<linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-media@vger.kernel.org" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/3] Introduce cpufreq minimum load QoS
Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 09:17:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b8757472-c973-a32d-d5c9-a584d7d703f8@st.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jhjmu6tc6rz.mognet@arm.com>



On 4/30/20 5:50 PM, Valentin Schneider wrote:
> On 30/04/20 16:37, Benjamin GAIGNARD wrote:
>> On 4/30/20 4:33 PM, Valentin Schneider wrote:
>>> On 30/04/20 14:46, Benjamin GAIGNARD wrote:
>>>>> That's not what I meant.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suppose that the interrupt processing in question takes place in
>>>>> process context and so you may set the lower clamp on the utilization
>>>>> of the task carrying that out.
>>>> I have try to add this code when starting streaming (before the first
>>>> interrupt) the frames from the sensor:
>>>> const struct sched_attr sched_attr = {
>>>>      .sched_util_min = 10000, /* 100% of usage */
>>> Unless you play with SCHED_CAPACITY_SHIFT, the max should be 1024 -
>>> i.e. SCHED_CAPACITY_SCALE. That's a really big boost, but that's for you to
>>> benchmark.
>>>
>>>>      .sched_flags = SCHED_FLAG_UTIL_CLAMP_MIN,
>>>>     };
>>>>
>>>> sched_setattr(current, &sched_attr);
>>>>
>>>> I don't see any benefices maybe there is some configuration flags to set.
>>>>
>>>> How changing sched_util_min could impact cpufreq ondemand governor ?
>>>> Does it change the value returned when the governor check the idle time ?
>>>>
>>> You'll have to use the schedutil governor for uclamp to have an effect. And
>>> arguably that's what you should be using, unless something explicitly
>>> prevents you from doing that.
>> Even with schedutil and SCHED_CAPACITY_SCALE that it doesn't work.
>> cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq values are always on the max value even if the
>> stats show transitions between the available frequencies.
>>
>> I see two possibles reasons to explain that:
>> - sched_setattr() is called in userland process context, but the
>> threaded irq handler is running in another process.
> Ah yes, this only works if the task you boost is the one that will handle
> whatever work you care about (in this case handling the irq). That said, if
> you do use threaded IRQs, that should give you a SCHED_FIFO thread, which
> should drive the frequency to its max when using schedutil (unrelated to
> uclamp).
Can I conclude that sched_setattr() isn't the good way to solve this 
problem ?
Does my patches make sense in this case ?

>> - because this use case is almost running all in hardware the process
>> isn't doing anything so the scheduler doesn't take care of it.
>>
>>>>> Alternatively, that task may be a deadline one.
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-04  9:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-24 11:40 [RFC 0/3] Introduce cpufreq minimum load QoS Benjamin Gaignard
2020-04-24 11:40 ` Benjamin Gaignard
2020-04-24 11:40 ` [RFC 1/3] PM: QoS: " Benjamin Gaignard
2020-04-24 11:40   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2020-04-24 11:40 ` [RFC 2/3] cpufreq: governor: Use " Benjamin Gaignard
2020-04-24 11:40   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2020-04-24 11:40 ` [RFC 3/3] media: stm32-dcmi: Inform cpufreq governors about cpu load needs Benjamin Gaignard
2020-04-24 11:40   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2020-04-29 15:50 ` [RFC 0/3] Introduce cpufreq minimum load QoS Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-04-29 15:50   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-04-29 15:57   ` Benjamin GAIGNARD
2020-04-29 15:57     ` Benjamin GAIGNARD
2020-04-29 16:12     ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-29 16:12       ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-30  7:52       ` Benjamin GAIGNARD
2020-04-30  7:52         ` Benjamin GAIGNARD
2020-04-30  9:03         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-04-30  9:03           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-04-30 13:46           ` Benjamin GAIGNARD
2020-04-30 13:46             ` Benjamin GAIGNARD
2020-04-30 14:33             ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-30 14:33               ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-30 15:37               ` Benjamin GAIGNARD
2020-04-30 15:37                 ` Benjamin GAIGNARD
2020-04-30 15:50                 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-04-30 15:50                   ` Valentin Schneider
2020-05-04  9:17                   ` Benjamin GAIGNARD [this message]
2020-05-04  9:17                     ` Benjamin GAIGNARD
2020-05-20  7:29                     ` [Linux-stm32] " Benjamin GAIGNARD
2020-05-20  7:29                       ` Benjamin GAIGNARD
2020-04-29 17:08   ` Vincent Guittot
2020-04-29 17:08     ` Vincent Guittot
2020-04-30  9:00     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-04-30  9:00       ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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