* perl makefile race - any make experts who can help? @ 2022-06-04 11:07 Richard Purdie 2022-06-04 11:51 ` [OE-core] " Alexander Kanavin 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Richard Purdie @ 2022-06-04 11:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: openembedded-core; +Cc: Alexandre Belloni, swat Hi, Occasionally we see perl do_install failures on the autobuilder. It looks like some kind of make race. With the last failure I saved off the build directory and have spent a lot of time staring at it but I don't understand how what the logs say happened actually happened. The build failure is here: https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/37/builds/5315/steps/11/logs/stdio and you can see it failed in do_install. The first error is; | Couldn't copy cpan/podlators/blib/script/pod2text to /home/pokybuild/yocto-worker/genericx86-64/build/build/tmp/work/core2-64-poky-linux/perl/5.34.1-r0/image/usr/bin/pod2text: No such file or directory | Couldn't chmod 755 /home/pokybuild/yocto-worker/genericx86-64/build/build/tmp/work/core2-64-poky-linux/perl/5.34.1-r0/image/usr/bin/pod2text: No such file or directory then installman: Can't open cpan/podlators/blib/script/pod2text: No such file or directory | ABORTED Looking at the build directory, cpan/podlators/blib/script/pod2text isn't there, cpan/podlators/script/pod2text is. I went digging in the compile log which didn't fail but is interesting in what it doesn't say nd the ordering. The full log: https://autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/failed-builds-data/perl-race/log.do_compile.25823 or my edited down version: https://autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/failed-builds-data/perl-race/compile-cutdown.log and note it never actually builds cpan/podlators/blib/script/pod2text. If I go into the failed build dir, it does build it: https://autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/failed-builds-data/perl-race/manual-compile.log I tried a few variations of deleting and rebuilding files there just to show behaviour. The makefiles from the podlators directory: https://autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/failed-builds-data/perl-race/Makefile https://autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/failed-builds-data/perl-race/Makefile.PL What really puzzles me is the "Manifying 2 pod documents" message *before* it then generates scripts/pod2text from scripts/pod2text.PL in the do_compile log. It appears to run the scripts/pod2text late and never runs the $(INST_SCRIPT)/pod2text at all (hence no cp message and the missing file). The Makefile has default targets of pure_all and manifypods, that message comes from manifypods but manifypods depends on pure_all. pure_all is a double colon rule and I'm on less certain ground with how those behave. Are there any make experts out there who can spot the race in this makefile? Cheers, Richard ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [OE-core] perl makefile race - any make experts who can help? 2022-06-04 11:07 perl makefile race - any make experts who can help? Richard Purdie @ 2022-06-04 11:51 ` Alexander Kanavin 2022-06-04 12:36 ` Richard Purdie [not found] ` <16F56B1475C84995.11448@lists.yoctoproject.org> 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Alexander Kanavin @ 2022-06-04 11:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Richard Purdie; +Cc: openembedded-core, Alexandre Belloni, swat Here's something I didn't think of before. Has this occurred anywhere else except Ubuntu 18.04? Alex On Sat, 4 Jun 2022 at 13:07, Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > > Hi, > > Occasionally we see perl do_install failures on the autobuilder. It > looks like some kind of make race. With the last failure I saved off > the build directory and have spent a lot of time staring at it but I > don't understand how what the logs say happened actually happened. > > The build failure is here: > > https://autobuilder.yoctoproject.org/typhoon/#/builders/37/builds/5315/steps/11/logs/stdio > > and you can see it failed in do_install. The first error is; > > | Couldn't copy cpan/podlators/blib/script/pod2text to /home/pokybuild/yocto-worker/genericx86-64/build/build/tmp/work/core2-64-poky-linux/perl/5.34.1-r0/image/usr/bin/pod2text: No such file or directory > | Couldn't chmod 755 /home/pokybuild/yocto-worker/genericx86-64/build/build/tmp/work/core2-64-poky-linux/perl/5.34.1-r0/image/usr/bin/pod2text: No such file or directory > > then > > installman: Can't open cpan/podlators/blib/script/pod2text: No such file or directory > | ABORTED > > Looking at the build directory, cpan/podlators/blib/script/pod2text > isn't there, cpan/podlators/script/pod2text is. I went digging in the > compile log which didn't fail but is interesting in what it doesn't say > nd the ordering. The full log: > > https://autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/failed-builds-data/perl-race/log.do_compile.25823 > > or my edited down version: > > https://autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/failed-builds-data/perl-race/compile-cutdown.log > > and note it never actually builds cpan/podlators/blib/script/pod2text. > > If I go into the failed build dir, it does build it: > > https://autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/failed-builds-data/perl-race/manual-compile.log > > I tried a few variations of deleting and rebuilding files there just to show behaviour. > > The makefiles from the podlators directory: > > https://autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/failed-builds-data/perl-race/Makefile > https://autobuilder.yocto.io/pub/failed-builds-data/perl-race/Makefile.PL > > > What really puzzles me is the "Manifying 2 pod documents" message > *before* it then generates scripts/pod2text from scripts/pod2text.PL in > the do_compile log. It appears to run the scripts/pod2text late and > never runs the $(INST_SCRIPT)/pod2text at all (hence no cp message and > the missing file). > > The Makefile has default targets of pure_all and manifypods, that > message comes from manifypods but manifypods depends on pure_all. > > pure_all is a double colon rule and I'm on less certain ground with how > those behave. > > Are there any make experts out there who can spot the race in this > makefile? > > Cheers, > > Richard > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. > View/Reply Online (#166564): https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/166564 > Mute This Topic: https://lists.openembedded.org/mt/91538663/1686489 > Group Owner: openembedded-core+owner@lists.openembedded.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/unsub [alex.kanavin@gmail.com] > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [OE-core] perl makefile race - any make experts who can help? 2022-06-04 11:51 ` [OE-core] " Alexander Kanavin @ 2022-06-04 12:36 ` Richard Purdie [not found] ` <16F56B1475C84995.11448@lists.yoctoproject.org> 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Richard Purdie @ 2022-06-04 12:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Alexander Kanavin; +Cc: openembedded-core, Alexandre Belloni, swat On Sat, 2022-06-04 at 13:51 +0200, Alexander Kanavin wrote: > Here's something I didn't think of before. Has this occurred anywhere > else except Ubuntu 18.04? https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14096 I'm struggling to get the data out from the old builds, one mentions ubuntu1604, there is an ubuntu1804 on both x86 and arm hosts. It is possible this is an ubuntu specific make issue or a make bug. Cheers, Richard ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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* Re: [swat] [OE-core] perl makefile race - any make experts who can help? [not found] ` <16F56B1475C84995.11448@lists.yoctoproject.org> @ 2022-06-04 13:23 ` Richard Purdie 2022-06-04 14:55 ` Khem Raj 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Richard Purdie @ 2022-06-04 13:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: swat, Alexander Kanavin Cc: openembedded-core, Alexandre Belloni, Randy MacLeod On Sat, 2022-06-04 at 13:36 +0100, Richard Purdie via lists.yoctoproject.org wrote: > On Sat, 2022-06-04 at 13:51 +0200, Alexander Kanavin wrote: > > Here's something I didn't think of before. Has this occurred anywhere > > else except Ubuntu 18.04? > > https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14096 > > I'm struggling to get the data out from the old builds, one mentions > ubuntu1604, there is an ubuntu1804 on both x86 and arm hosts. > > It is possible this is an ubuntu specific make issue or a make bug. Ubuntu 18.04 uses make 4.1 which is old (Oct 2014). I noticed these patches from 2016: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/make.git/commit/?id=9bb994e8319c2b153cd3d6d61e2c2882895e7c3a https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/make.git/commit/?id=4762480ae9cb8df4878286411f178d32db14eff0 I think we may want to mandate a modern make for both this class of issues and also perhaps for better loadavg support to keep load under control on the autobuilders. I'm torn, on the one hand we need to test the distros people use, on the other we do need to remove sources of intermittent issues. I think this bug must be some issue with make itself. Adding a make-native dependency to perl would "hurt" people on modern distros... Cheers, Richard ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [swat] [OE-core] perl makefile race - any make experts who can help? 2022-06-04 13:23 ` [swat] " Richard Purdie @ 2022-06-04 14:55 ` Khem Raj 2022-06-04 15:12 ` Jacob Kroon 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Khem Raj @ 2022-06-04 14:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Richard Purdie Cc: Alexander Kanavin, Alexandre Belloni, Randy MacLeod, openembedded-core, swat [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2018 bytes --] On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 6:23 AM Richard Purdie < richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > On Sat, 2022-06-04 at 13:36 +0100, Richard Purdie via > lists.yoctoproject.org wrote: > > On Sat, 2022-06-04 at 13:51 +0200, Alexander Kanavin wrote: > > > Here's something I didn't think of before. Has this occurred anywhere > > > else except Ubuntu 18.04? > > > > https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14096 > > > > I'm struggling to get the data out from the old builds, one mentions > > ubuntu1604, there is an ubuntu1804 on both x86 and arm hosts. > > > > It is possible this is an ubuntu specific make issue or a make bug. > > Ubuntu 18.04 uses make 4.1 which is old (Oct 2014). > > I noticed these patches from 2016: > > > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/make.git/commit/?id=9bb994e8319c2b153cd3d6d61e2c2882895e7c3a > > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/make.git/commit/?id=4762480ae9cb8df4878286411f178d32db14eff0 > > I think we may want to mandate a modern make for both this class of > issues and also perhaps for better loadavg support to keep load under > control on the autobuilders. > > I'm torn, on the one hand we need to test the distros people use, on > the other we do need to remove sources of intermittent issues. I think > this bug must be some issue with make itself. > > Adding a make-native dependency to perl would "hurt" people on modern > distros... Make perhaps does not have many complex dependency needs so it might not be as bad Second option is to mandate buildtools on this distro And add make to tarball > > > Cheers, > > Richard > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. > View/Reply Online (#166567): > https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/166567 > Mute This Topic: https://lists.openembedded.org/mt/91540379/1997914 > Group Owner: openembedded-core+owner@lists.openembedded.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/unsub [ > raj.khem@gmail.com] > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 3658 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [swat] [OE-core] perl makefile race - any make experts who can help? 2022-06-04 14:55 ` Khem Raj @ 2022-06-04 15:12 ` Jacob Kroon 2022-06-04 17:40 ` Richard Purdie 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Jacob Kroon @ 2022-06-04 15:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Khem Raj, Richard Purdie Cc: Alexander Kanavin, Alexandre Belloni, Randy MacLeod, openembedded-core, swat On 6/4/22 16:55, Khem Raj wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 6:23 AM Richard Purdie > <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org > <mailto:richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>> wrote: > > On Sat, 2022-06-04 at 13:36 +0100, Richard Purdie via > lists.yoctoproject.org <http://lists.yoctoproject.org> wrote: > > On Sat, 2022-06-04 at 13:51 +0200, Alexander Kanavin wrote: > > > Here's something I didn't think of before. Has this occurred > anywhere > > > else except Ubuntu 18.04? > > > > https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14096 > <https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14096> > > > > I'm struggling to get the data out from the old builds, one mentions > > ubuntu1604, there is an ubuntu1804 on both x86 and arm hosts. > > > > It is possible this is an ubuntu specific make issue or a make bug. > > Ubuntu 18.04 uses make 4.1 which is old (Oct 2014). > > I noticed these patches from 2016: > > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/make.git/commit/?id=9bb994e8319c2b153cd3d6d61e2c2882895e7c3a > <https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/make.git/commit/?id=9bb994e8319c2b153cd3d6d61e2c2882895e7c3a> > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/make.git/commit/?id=4762480ae9cb8df4878286411f178d32db14eff0 > <https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/make.git/commit/?id=4762480ae9cb8df4878286411f178d32db14eff0> > > I think we may want to mandate a modern make for both this class of > issues and also perhaps for better loadavg support to keep load under > control on the autobuilders. > > I'm torn, on the one hand we need to test the distros people use, on > the other we do need to remove sources of intermittent issues. I think > this bug must be some issue with make itself. > > Adding a make-native dependency to perl would "hurt" people on modern > distros... > > > Make perhaps does not have many complex dependency needs so it might not > be as bad > My master build is already building make-native due to a dependency from glibc, since 2018: https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=0cd89e4af625941f8ab8c033f72f900a2979b304 Don't know if that dependency is still valid though. Jacob ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [swat] [OE-core] perl makefile race - any make experts who can help? 2022-06-04 15:12 ` Jacob Kroon @ 2022-06-04 17:40 ` Richard Purdie 2022-06-05 2:26 ` Jacob Kroon 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Richard Purdie @ 2022-06-04 17:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jacob Kroon, Khem Raj Cc: Alexander Kanavin, Alexandre Belloni, Randy MacLeod, openembedded-core, swat On Sat, 2022-06-04 at 17:12 +0200, Jacob Kroon wrote: > On 6/4/22 16:55, Khem Raj wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 6:23 AM Richard Purdie > > <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org > > <mailto:richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>> wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2022-06-04 at 13:36 +0100, Richard Purdie via > > lists.yoctoproject.org <http://lists.yoctoproject.org> wrote: > > > On Sat, 2022-06-04 at 13:51 +0200, Alexander Kanavin wrote: > > > > Here's something I didn't think of before. Has this occurred > > anywhere > > > > else except Ubuntu 18.04? > > > > > > https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14096 > > <https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14096> > > > > > > I'm struggling to get the data out from the old builds, one mentions > > > ubuntu1604, there is an ubuntu1804 on both x86 and arm hosts. > > > > > > It is possible this is an ubuntu specific make issue or a make bug. > > > > Ubuntu 18.04 uses make 4.1 which is old (Oct 2014). > > > > I noticed these patches from 2016: > > > > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/make.git/commit/?id=9bb994e8319c2b153cd3d6d61e2c2882895e7c3a > > <https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/make.git/commit/?id=9bb994e8319c2b153cd3d6d61e2c2882895e7c3a> > > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/make.git/commit/?id=4762480ae9cb8df4878286411f178d32db14eff0 > > <https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/make.git/commit/?id=4762480ae9cb8df4878286411f178d32db14eff0> > > > > I think we may want to mandate a modern make for both this class of > > issues and also perhaps for better loadavg support to keep load under > > control on the autobuilders. > > > > I'm torn, on the one hand we need to test the distros people use, on > > the other we do need to remove sources of intermittent issues. I think > > this bug must be some issue with make itself. > > > > Adding a make-native dependency to perl would "hurt" people on modern > > distros... > > > > > > Make perhaps does not have many complex dependency needs so it might not > > be as bad > > > > My master build is already building make-native due to a dependency from > glibc, since 2018: > > https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=0cd89e4af625941f8ab8c033f72f900a2979b304 > > Don't know if that dependency is still valid though. It is a fair point. We may as well add it to perl/perl-native. Centos7 still has make 3.82 but I think we now already require buildtools tarball there so we could probably drop the glibc dependency on make- native now. Cheers, Richard ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [swat] [OE-core] perl makefile race - any make experts who can help? 2022-06-04 17:40 ` Richard Purdie @ 2022-06-05 2:26 ` Jacob Kroon 2022-06-06 10:32 ` Richard Purdie 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Jacob Kroon @ 2022-06-05 2:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Richard Purdie Cc: Khem Raj, Alexander Kanavin, Alexandre Belloni, Randy MacLeod, openembedded-core, swat [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3005 bytes --] On Sat, 4 Jun 2022, 19:40 Richard Purdie, < richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > On Sat, 2022-06-04 at 17:12 +0200, Jacob Kroon wrote: > > On 6/4/22 16:55, Khem Raj wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 6:23 AM Richard Purdie > > > <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org > > > <mailto:richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>> wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, 2022-06-04 at 13:36 +0100, Richard Purdie via > > > lists.yoctoproject.org <http://lists.yoctoproject.org> wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2022-06-04 at 13:51 +0200, Alexander Kanavin wrote: > > > > > Here's something I didn't think of before. Has this occurred > > > anywhere > > > > > else except Ubuntu 18.04? > > > > > > > > https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14096 > > > <https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14096> > > > > > > > > I'm struggling to get the data out from the old builds, one > mentions > > > > ubuntu1604, there is an ubuntu1804 on both x86 and arm hosts. > > > > > > > > It is possible this is an ubuntu specific make issue or a make > bug. > > > > > > Ubuntu 18.04 uses make 4.1 which is old (Oct 2014). > > > > > > I noticed these patches from 2016: > > > > > > > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/make.git/commit/?id=9bb994e8319c2b153cd3d6d61e2c2882895e7c3a > > > < > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/make.git/commit/?id=9bb994e8319c2b153cd3d6d61e2c2882895e7c3a > > > > > > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/make.git/commit/?id=4762480ae9cb8df4878286411f178d32db14eff0 > > > < > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/make.git/commit/?id=4762480ae9cb8df4878286411f178d32db14eff0 > > > > > > > > I think we may want to mandate a modern make for both this class of > > > issues and also perhaps for better loadavg support to keep load > under > > > control on the autobuilders. > > > > > > I'm torn, on the one hand we need to test the distros people use, > on > > > the other we do need to remove sources of intermittent issues. I > think > > > this bug must be some issue with make itself. > > > > > > Adding a make-native dependency to perl would "hurt" people on > modern > > > distros... > > > > > > > > > Make perhaps does not have many complex dependency needs so it might > not > > > be as bad > > > > > > > My master build is already building make-native due to a dependency from > > glibc, since 2018: > > > > > https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=0cd89e4af625941f8ab8c033f72f900a2979b304 > > > > Don't know if that dependency is still valid though. > > It is a fair point. We may as well add it to perl/perl-native. Centos7 > still has make 3.82 but I think we now already require buildtools > tarball there so we could probably drop the glibc dependency on make- > native now. > Would it be a bad idea to add make-native to DEPENDS depending on whether the host version of make is new enough or not ? Would it break sstate cache reuse in some way ? > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 5672 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [swat] [OE-core] perl makefile race - any make experts who can help? 2022-06-05 2:26 ` Jacob Kroon @ 2022-06-06 10:32 ` Richard Purdie 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Richard Purdie @ 2022-06-06 10:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jacob Kroon Cc: Khem Raj, Alexander Kanavin, Alexandre Belloni, Randy MacLeod, openembedded-core, swat On Sun, 2022-06-05 at 04:26 +0200, Jacob Kroon wrote: > On Sat, 4 Jun 2022, 19:40 Richard Purdie, > <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > > On Sat, 2022-06-04 at 17:12 +0200, Jacob Kroon wrote: > > > On 6/4/22 16:55, Khem Raj wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 6:23 AM Richard Purdie > > > > <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org > > > > <mailto:richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2022-06-04 at 13:36 +0100, Richard Purdie via > > > > lists.yoctoproject.org <http://lists.yoctoproject.org> > > > > wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 2022-06-04 at 13:51 +0200, Alexander Kanavin > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Here's something I didn't think of before. Has this > > > > occurred > > > > anywhere > > > > > > else except Ubuntu 18.04? > > > > > > > > > > https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14096 > > > > <https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14096> > > > > > > > > > > I'm struggling to get the data out from the old builds, > > > > one mentions > > > > > ubuntu1604, there is an ubuntu1804 on both x86 and arm > > > > hosts. > > > > > > > > > > It is possible this is an ubuntu specific make issue or > > > > a make bug. > > > > > > > > Ubuntu 18.04 uses make 4.1 which is old (Oct 2014). > > > > > > > > I noticed these patches from 2016: > > > > > > > > > > > > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/make.git/commit/?id=9bb994e8 > > > > 319c2b153cd3d6d61e2c2882895e7c3a > > > > > > > > <https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/make.git/commit/?id=9bb994e > > > > 8319c2b153cd3d6d61e2c2882895e7c3a> > > > > > > > > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/make.git/commit/?id=4762480a > > > > e9cb8df4878286411f178d32db14eff0 > > > > > > > > <https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/make.git/commit/?id=4762480 > > > > ae9cb8df4878286411f178d32db14eff0> > > > > > > > > I think we may want to mandate a modern make for both this > > > > class of > > > > issues and also perhaps for better loadavg support to keep > > > > load under > > > > control on the autobuilders. > > > > > > > > I'm torn, on the one hand we need to test the distros > > > > people use, on > > > > the other we do need to remove sources of intermittent > > > > issues. I think > > > > this bug must be some issue with make itself. > > > > > > > > Adding a make-native dependency to perl would "hurt" > > > > people on modern > > > > distros... > > > > > > > > > > > > Make perhaps does not have many complex dependency needs so it > > > > might not > > > > be as bad > > > > > > > > > > My master build is already building make-native due to a > > > dependency from > > > glibc, since 2018: > > > > > > https://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/commit/?id=0cd89e4af625941f8ab8c033f72f900a2979b304 > > > > > > Don't know if that dependency is still valid though. > > > > It is a fair point. We may as well add it to perl/perl-native. > > Centos7 > > still has make 3.82 but I think we now already require buildtools > > tarball there so we could probably drop the glibc dependency on > > make- > > native now. > > > Would it be a bad idea to add make-native to DEPENDS depending on > whether the host version of make is new enough or not ? Would it > break sstate cache reuse in some way ? We can't have a conditional dependency like that, the task checksums as implemented today wouldn't work and it would break ssttate reuse. Cheers, Richard ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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