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From: A L <mail@lechevalier.se>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Cc: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Julia Lawall <julia.lawall@inria.fr>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
	Gilles Muller <Gilles.Muller@inria.fr>,
	srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>
Subject: Re: default cpufreq gov, was: [PATCH] sched/fair: check for idle core
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 17:45:11 +0200 (GMT+02:00)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c232b2.c086afce.17550fc4644@lechevalier.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201022122949.GW2628@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>



---- From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> -- Sent: 2020-10-22 - 14:29 ----

> On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 02:19:29PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>> > However I do want to retire ondemand, conservative and also very much
>> > intel_pstate/active mode.
>> 
>> I agree in general, but IMO it would not be prudent to do that without making
>> schedutil provide the same level of performance in all of the relevant use
>> cases.
> 
> Agreed; I though to have understood we were there already.

Hi, 


Currently schedutil does not populate all stats like ondemand does, which can be a problem for some monitoring software. 

On my AMD 3000G CPU with kernel-5.9.1:


grep. /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/policy0/stats/*

With ondemand:
time_in_state:3900000 145179
time_in_state:1600000 9588482
total_trans:177565
trans_table:   From  :    To
trans_table:         :   3900000   1600000
trans_table:  3900000:         0     88783
trans_table:  1600000:     88782         0

With schedutil only two file exists:
reset:<empty>
total_trans:216609 


I'd really like to have these stats populated with schedutil, if that's possible.

Thanks. 


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: A L <mail@lechevalier.se>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Cc: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Julia Lawall <julia.lawall@inria.fr>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
	Gilles Muller <Gilles.Muller@inria.fr>,
	srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>
Subject: Re: default cpufreq gov, was: [PATCH] sched/fair: check for idle core
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 15:45:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c232b2.c086afce.17550fc4644@lechevalier.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201022122949.GW2628@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>



---- From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> -- Sent: 2020-10-22 - 14:29 ----

> On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 02:19:29PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>> > However I do want to retire ondemand, conservative and also very much
>> > intel_pstate/active mode.
>> 
>> I agree in general, but IMO it would not be prudent to do that without making
>> schedutil provide the same level of performance in all of the relevant use
>> cases.
> 
> Agreed; I though to have understood we were there already.

Hi, 


Currently schedutil does not populate all stats like ondemand does, which can be a problem for some monitoring software. 

On my AMD 3000G CPU with kernel-5.9.1:


grep. /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/policy0/stats/*

With ondemand:
time_in_state:3900000 145179
time_in_state:1600000 9588482
total_trans:177565
trans_table:   From  :    To
trans_table:         :   3900000   1600000
trans_table:  3900000:         0     88783
trans_table:  1600000:     88782         0

With schedutil only two file exists:
reset:<empty>
total_trans:216609 


I'd really like to have these stats populated with schedutil, if that's possible.

Thanks. 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-10-22 16:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-20 16:37 [PATCH] sched/fair: check for idle core Julia Lawall
2020-10-20 16:37 ` Julia Lawall
2020-10-21  7:29 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-10-21  7:29   ` Vincent Guittot
2020-10-21 11:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-21 11:13     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-21 12:27   ` Vincent Guittot
2020-10-21 12:27     ` Vincent Guittot
2020-10-21 11:20 ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-21 11:20   ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-21 11:56   ` Julia Lawall
2020-10-21 11:56     ` Julia Lawall
2020-10-21 12:19     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-21 12:19       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-21 12:42       ` Julia Lawall
2020-10-21 12:42         ` Julia Lawall
2020-10-21 12:52         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-21 12:52           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-21 13:43           ` Julia Lawall
2020-10-21 18:18           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-21 18:18             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-21 18:15         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-21 18:15           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-21 19:47           ` Julia Lawall
2020-10-21 19:47             ` Julia Lawall
2020-10-21 20:25             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-21 20:25               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-21 13:10       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-21 13:10         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-21 18:11         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-21 18:11           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-22  4:41           ` Viresh Kumar
2020-10-22  4:53             ` Viresh Kumar
2020-10-22  7:11           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-22  7:11             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-22 10:47             ` Viresh Kumar
2020-10-22 10:59               ` Viresh Kumar
2020-10-22 11:45               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-22 11:45                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-22 12:02                 ` default cpufreq gov, was: " Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-22 12:02                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-22 12:19                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-22 12:19                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-22 12:29                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-22 12:29                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-22 14:52                       ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-22 14:52                         ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-22 14:58                         ` Colin Ian King
2020-10-22 14:58                           ` Colin Ian King
2020-10-22 15:12                           ` Phil Auld
2020-10-22 15:12                             ` Phil Auld
2020-10-22 16:35                             ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-22 16:35                               ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-22 17:59                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-22 17:59                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-22 20:32                                 ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-22 20:32                                   ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-22 20:39                                   ` Phil Auld
2020-10-22 20:39                                     ` Phil Auld
2020-10-22 15:25                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-22 15:25                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-22 15:55                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-22 15:55                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-22 16:29                           ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-22 16:29                             ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-22 20:10                           ` Giovanni Gherdovich
2020-10-22 20:10                             ` Giovanni Gherdovich
2020-10-22 20:16                             ` Giovanni Gherdovich
2020-10-22 20:16                               ` Giovanni Gherdovich
2020-10-23  7:03                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-23  7:03                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-23 17:46                               ` Tom Lendacky
2020-10-23 17:46                                 ` Tom Lendacky
2020-10-26 19:52                                 ` Fontenot, Nathan
2020-10-26 19:52                                   ` Fontenot, Nathan
2020-10-22 15:45                       ` A L [this message]
2020-10-22 15:45                         ` A L
2020-10-22 15:55                         ` Vincent Guittot
2020-10-22 15:55                           ` Vincent Guittot
2020-10-23  5:11                           ` Viresh Kumar
2020-10-23  5:23                             ` Viresh Kumar
2020-10-22 16:23                   ` [PATCH] cpufreq: Avoid configuring old governors as default with intel_pstate Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-22 16:23                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-23  6:17                     ` Viresh Kumar
2020-10-23  6:29                       ` Viresh Kumar
2020-10-23 11:59                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-23 11:59                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-23 15:15                     ` [PATCH v2] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-23 15:15                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-27  3:01                       ` Viresh Kumar
2020-10-27  3:13                         ` Viresh Kumar
2020-10-27 11:11                   ` default cpufreq gov, was: [PATCH] sched/fair: check for idle core Qais Yousef
2020-10-27 11:26                     ` Valentin Schneider
2020-10-27 11:42                       ` Qais Yousef
2020-10-27 11:48                         ` Viresh Kumar
2020-10-27 11:48                           ` Viresh Kumar
2020-10-23  6:12                 ` Viresh Kumar
2020-10-23  6:24                   ` Viresh Kumar
2020-10-23 15:06                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-23 15:06                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-27  3:01                     ` Viresh Kumar
2020-10-27  3:13                       ` Viresh Kumar
2020-10-22 11:21             ` AW: " Walter Harms
2020-10-22 11:21               ` Walter Harms
2020-10-21 12:28     ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-21 12:28       ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-21 12:25   ` Vincent Guittot
2020-10-21 12:25     ` Vincent Guittot
2020-10-21 12:47     ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-21 12:47       ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-21 12:56       ` Julia Lawall
2020-10-21 12:56         ` Julia Lawall
2020-10-21 13:18         ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-21 13:18           ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-21 13:24           ` Julia Lawall
2020-10-21 13:24             ` Julia Lawall
2020-10-21 15:08             ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-21 15:08               ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-21 15:18               ` Julia Lawall
2020-10-21 15:18                 ` Julia Lawall
2020-10-21 15:23                 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-10-21 15:23                   ` Vincent Guittot
2020-10-21 15:33                   ` Julia Lawall
2020-10-21 15:33                     ` Julia Lawall
2020-10-21 15:19               ` Vincent Guittot
2020-10-21 15:19                 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-10-21 17:00                 ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-21 17:00                   ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-21 17:39                   ` Julia Lawall
2020-10-21 17:39                     ` Julia Lawall
2020-10-21 13:48           ` Julia Lawall
2020-10-21 13:48             ` Julia Lawall
2020-10-21 15:26             ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-21 15:26               ` Mel Gorman

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