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From: Phil Turmel <philip@turmel.org>
To: Benjammin2068 <benjammin2068@gmail.com>, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Need Help with crashed RAID5 (that was rebuilding and then had SATA error on another drive)
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 08:38:27 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c26db3f3-a991-006e-833e-b2a79022fbd2@turmel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57BFAF75.1080807@gmail.com>

On 08/25/2016 10:54 PM, Benjammin2068 wrote:
>> You either must have
>> it enabled, or you *must* apply the kernel driver timeout work-around
>> (180 seconds) for that drive.  Failure to do so results in crashed arrays.
> 
> For the ST1000DM003, its SMART capabilities states "SCT Status Supported" -- What does that mean in comparison with the other HD103SJ drives?
> 
> It does SCT but doesn't let the user control it or it doesn't do it at all?

ERC is a feature within the SCT standard.  For modern hard drives,
claiming "SCT" support is comparable to a bottled water supplier
advertising that their product is wet.

> (smartctl -l scterc /dev/sde yields a message that implies control is not supported)

ERC on the other hand is a valuable feature that modern drive
manufacturers make you pay extra for.

>> Enterprise and NAS drives work out of the box.  Desktop/green drives do not.
> 
> Yea - I didn't buy any green drives (purposefully anyway) for this system.

I originally wrote that sentence as "Desktop drives do not."  I added
"/green" to clarify that some non-enterprise, non-NAS drives aren't
marketed as desktop drives, but still lack ERC functionality.

Your ST1000DM003 is marketed as a desktop drive.  Seagate's product page
for this model has links to other models for specialty use cases,
including NAS.

>> Some reading assignments from old discussions (read whole threads if you
>> have time):
>>
>> http://marc.info/?l=linux-raid&m=139050322510249&w=2
>> http://marc.info/?l=linux-raid&m=135863964624202&w=2
>> http://marc.info/?l=linux-raid&m=135811522817345&w=1
>> http://marc.info/?l=linux-raid&m=133761065622164&w=2
>> http://marc.info/?l=linux-raid&m=132477199207506
>> http://marc.info/?l=linux-raid&m=133665797115876&w=2
>> http://marc.info/?l=linux-raid&m=142487508806844&w=3
>> http://marc.info/?l=linux-raid&m=144535576302583&w=2
> 
> Thanks, will go read.

You will find detailed explanations for my comments above in these old
threads.

Phil


  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-26 12:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-22 21:51 Need Help with crashed RAID5 (that was rebuilding and then had SATA error on another drive) Ben Kamen
2016-08-22 23:06 ` Adam Goryachev
2016-08-23 11:36   ` Wols Lists
2016-08-23 15:44     ` Ben
     [not found]   ` <CADDTLRBf9NPO6OuF4a3b+xffZgeZRqHRG+pJdPmbc9-Jat0HVQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <d6d3fe0d-3f9f-985f-9bfb-051428cf221b@websitemanagers.com.au>
     [not found]       ` <57BBDA5B.3020706@gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <57BBDC15.5030301@gmail.com>
     [not found]           ` <b8c6a380-7e6a-fda9-5834-b85271b26892@websitemanagers.com.au>
     [not found]             ` <57BC61F7.8070102@gmail.com>
     [not found]               ` <aca4e83f-9a3f-c200-7c16-3b5d9df52c1e@websitemanagers.com.au>
     [not found]                 ` <57BE450B.4030700@gmail.com>
     [not found]                   ` <56e86db5-456d-e9c1-339d-ba8903fe5dde@websitemanagers.com.au>
     [not found]                     ` <57BE52BC.6040908@gmail.com>
     [not found]                       ` <933228e0-bce4-ffad-f48d-034bf89bc07f@websitemanagers.com.au>
2016-08-26  1:20                         ` Ben
2016-08-26  2:22                           ` Phil Turmel
2016-08-26  2:54                             ` Benjammin2068
2016-08-26 12:38                               ` Phil Turmel [this message]
2016-08-26 18:07                           ` Wols Lists
2016-08-28 18:29                             ` Benjammin2068
2016-08-28 19:20                               ` Anthony Youngman
2016-08-29  1:23                                 ` Benjammin2068
2016-08-28 23:54                               ` Adam Goryachev
2016-08-29  1:25                                 ` Benjammin2068
2016-08-29 11:19                                   ` Wols Lists
2016-09-18 17:13                                     ` Best tool to partition Drives with new sector geometry - (WAS: Need Help with crashed RAID5 (that was rebuilding and then had SATA error on another drive)) Benjammin2068
2016-09-18 17:50                                       ` Chris Murphy
2016-09-18 18:41                                         ` Benjammin2068
2016-09-18 19:17                                           ` Wols Lists
2016-09-18 19:58                                             ` Benjammin2068
2016-09-18 21:21                                               ` Wols Lists
2016-09-18 21:29                                                 ` Benjammin2068
2016-09-19  6:25                                                   ` Wols Lists
2016-09-19 16:17                                                     ` Benjammin2068
2016-09-18 18:08                                       ` Benjammin2068

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