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* Behringer Uphoria UMC204 usb audio capture only pops and clicks
@ 2014-04-21  3:12 Andrew Reyes
  2014-04-21 13:25 ` Daniel Mack
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Reyes @ 2014-04-21  3:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel

Should I be posting somewhere else. If so can someone let me know where?

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* Re: Behringer Uphoria UMC204 usb audio capture only pops and clicks
  2014-04-21  3:12 Behringer Uphoria UMC204 usb audio capture only pops and clicks Andrew Reyes
@ 2014-04-21 13:25 ` Daniel Mack
  2014-04-21 14:10   ` Andrew Reyes
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Mack @ 2014-04-21 13:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Reyes; +Cc: alsa-devel

On 04/21/2014 05:12 AM, Andrew Reyes wrote:
> Should I be posting somewhere else. If so can someone let me know where?

Please don't start a new thread every time you post but reply to an
existing thread. Given the traffic on this list, the conversation is not
easy to follow otherwise.

Regarding your issue - the descriptors look sane AFAICS. Please have a
look at /proc/asound/card/xxx/stream* (where xxx is the index of your
USB soundcard), and report the actual streaming frequency when playing
at rates higher than 44.1khz.

You can also monitor the values automatically, like so:

(while sleep 0.123; do grep 'Momentary freq' /proc/asound/xxx/stream0;
done) | uniq


Also, how to you play the audio? Try with aplay, and try to tweak the
values in the --buffer-size parameters.


Daniel

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* Re: Behringer Uphoria UMC204 usb audio capture only pops and clicks
  2014-04-21 13:25 ` Daniel Mack
@ 2014-04-21 14:10   ` Andrew Reyes
  2014-04-21 14:17     ` Andrew Reyes
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Reyes @ 2014-04-21 14:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Mack; +Cc: alsa-devel

How do I reply to an existing thread? I'm not clear on that. Sorry about
that. I was under the impression I had to reply by using the same subject
description.


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Daniel Mack <daniel@zonque.org> wrote:

> On 04/21/2014 05:12 AM, Andrew Reyes wrote:
> > Should I be posting somewhere else. If so can someone let me know where?
>
> Please don't start a new thread every time you post but reply to an
> existing thread. Given the traffic on this list, the conversation is not
> easy to follow otherwise.
>
> Regarding your issue - the descriptors look sane AFAICS. Please have a
> look at /proc/asound/card/xxx/stream* (where xxx is the index of your
> USB soundcard), and report the actual streaming frequency when playing
> at rates higher than 44.1khz.
>
> You can also monitor the values automatically, like so:
>
> (while sleep 0.123; do grep 'Momentary freq' /proc/asound/xxx/stream0;
> done) | uniq
>
>
> Also, how to you play the audio? Try with aplay, and try to tweak the
> values in the --buffer-size parameters.
>
>
> Daniel
>
>

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* Re: Behringer Uphoria UMC204 usb audio capture only pops and clicks
  2014-04-21 14:10   ` Andrew Reyes
@ 2014-04-21 14:17     ` Andrew Reyes
  2014-04-21 16:11       ` Daniel Mack
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Reyes @ 2014-04-21 14:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Mack; +Cc: alsa-devel

And this is the pastebin link for the stream info set at 48khz:
http://pastebin.com/ysw6j5uA


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Andrew Reyes <dsreyes1014@gmail.com> wrote:

> How do I reply to an existing thread? I'm not clear on that. Sorry about
> that. I was under the impression I had to reply by using the same subject
> description.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Daniel Mack <daniel@zonque.org> wrote:
>
>> On 04/21/2014 05:12 AM, Andrew Reyes wrote:
>> > Should I be posting somewhere else. If so can someone let me know where?
>>
>> Please don't start a new thread every time you post but reply to an
>> existing thread. Given the traffic on this list, the conversation is not
>> easy to follow otherwise.
>>
>> Regarding your issue - the descriptors look sane AFAICS. Please have a
>> look at /proc/asound/card/xxx/stream* (where xxx is the index of your
>> USB soundcard), and report the actual streaming frequency when playing
>> at rates higher than 44.1khz.
>>
>> You can also monitor the values automatically, like so:
>>
>> (while sleep 0.123; do grep 'Momentary freq' /proc/asound/xxx/stream0;
>> done) | uniq
>>
>>
>> Also, how to you play the audio? Try with aplay, and try to tweak the
>> values in the --buffer-size parameters.
>>
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>

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* Re: Behringer Uphoria UMC204 usb audio capture only pops and clicks
  2014-04-21 14:17     ` Andrew Reyes
@ 2014-04-21 16:11       ` Daniel Mack
  2014-04-21 16:51         ` Andrew Reyes
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Mack @ 2014-04-21 16:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Reyes; +Cc: alsa-devel

(please do not top-post)

On 04/21/2014 04:17 PM, Andrew Reyes wrote:
> And this is the pastebin link for the stream info set at 48khz:
> http://pastebin.com/ysw6j5uA

Ok, so the actual frequency is close enough to the nominal one. Please
also do the tests wit aplay to see whether your issue can be recovered
by chosing larger buffer sizes. Do you see any messages in dmesg when
these 'clicks and pop' occur?

Also, please try this one:

  (while sleep 0.123; do grep 'Momentary freq' /proc/asound/xxx/stream0;
done) | uniq

Thanks,
Daniel

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* Re: Behringer Uphoria UMC204 usb audio capture only pops and clicks
  2014-04-21 16:11       ` Daniel Mack
@ 2014-04-21 16:51         ` Andrew Reyes
  2014-04-21 17:49           ` Daniel Mack
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Reyes @ 2014-04-21 16:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Mack; +Cc: alsa-devel

The while shell command shows consistent 96k when set at 96khz and dmesg
shows nothing where it pops and clicks.  How do I use aplay to adjust
buffer-size?


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Daniel Mack <daniel@zonque.org> wrote:

> (please do not top-post)
>
> On 04/21/2014 04:17 PM, Andrew Reyes wrote:
> > And this is the pastebin link for the stream info set at 48khz:
> > http://pastebin.com/ysw6j5uA
>
> Ok, so the actual frequency is close enough to the nominal one. Please
> also do the tests wit aplay to see whether your issue can be recovered
> by chosing larger buffer sizes. Do you see any messages in dmesg when
> these 'clicks and pop' occur?
>
> Also, please try this one:
>
>   (while sleep 0.123; do grep 'Momentary freq' /proc/asound/xxx/stream0;
> done) | uniq
>
> Thanks,
> Daniel
>
>

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* Re: Behringer Uphoria UMC204 usb audio capture only pops and clicks
  2014-04-21 16:51         ` Andrew Reyes
@ 2014-04-21 17:49           ` Daniel Mack
  2014-04-21 18:33             ` Andrew Reyes
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Mack @ 2014-04-21 17:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Reyes; +Cc: alsa-devel

(Please, do not top-post but quote properly!)

On 04/21/2014 06:51 PM, Andrew Reyes wrote:
> The while shell command shows consistent 96k when set at 96khz and dmesg
> shows nothing where it pops and clicks.  How do I use aplay to adjust
> buffer-size?

aplay -Dhw:xxx --buffer-size 2048 file.wav

(again, xxx is the index or short name of your audio card).

Which application do you normally use to play audio?


Daniel

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* Re: Behringer Uphoria UMC204 usb audio capture only pops and clicks
  2014-04-21 17:49           ` Daniel Mack
@ 2014-04-21 18:33             ` Andrew Reyes
  2014-04-21 18:37               ` Daniel Mack
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Reyes @ 2014-04-21 18:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Mack; +Cc: alsa-devel

> aplay -Dhw:xxx --buffer-size 2048 file.wav

> (again, xxx is the index or short name of your audio card).

> Which application do you normally use to play audio?


I'm using JACK right now for recording and gigging live and pulseaudio for
Youtube and movies.
Here is the pastebin link for the aplay command:
http://pastebin.com/3nquKW12



On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Daniel Mack <daniel@zonque.org> wrote:

> (Please, do not top-post but quote properly!)
>
> On 04/21/2014 06:51 PM, Andrew Reyes wrote:
> > The while shell command shows consistent 96k when set at 96khz and dmesg
> > shows nothing where it pops and clicks.  How do I use aplay to adjust
> > buffer-size?
>
> aplay -Dhw:xxx --buffer-size 2048 file.wav
>
> (again, xxx is the index or short name of your audio card).
>
> Which application do you normally use to play audio?
>
>
> Daniel
>
>

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* Re: Behringer Uphoria UMC204 usb audio capture only pops and clicks
  2014-04-21 18:33             ` Andrew Reyes
@ 2014-04-21 18:37               ` Daniel Mack
  2014-04-21 18:44                 ` Andrew Reyes
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Mack @ 2014-04-21 18:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Reyes; +Cc: alsa-devel

On 04/21/2014 08:33 PM, Andrew Reyes wrote:
>> aplay -Dhw:xxx --buffer-size 2048 file.wav
> 
>> (again, xxx is the index or short name of your audio card).
> 
>> Which application do you normally use to play audio?
> 
> I'm using JACK right now for recording and gigging live and pulseaudio for
> Youtube and movies.

Bot should of course work, but as they're built on top of ALSA, it's
best to debug directly on the lower level. IOW: with aplay.

> Here is the pastebin link for the aplay command:
> http://pastebin.com/3nquKW12
> 
> Playing WAVE 'Open The Eyes Of My Heart.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo
> aplay: set_params:1233: Sample format non available
> Available formats:
> - S32_LE

Ok, in this case, please use "plughw" instead of "hw".


Daniel

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* Re: Behringer Uphoria UMC204 usb audio capture only pops and clicks
  2014-04-21 18:37               ` Daniel Mack
@ 2014-04-21 18:44                 ` Andrew Reyes
  2014-04-21 18:49                   ` Andrew Reyes
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Reyes @ 2014-04-21 18:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Mack; +Cc: alsa-devel

> Ok, in this case, please use "plughw" instead of "hw".

Ok that worked. It plays fine at 44100 but when I try to set
`--period-size=48000` it still defaults to 44100.


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Daniel Mack <daniel@zonque.org> wrote:

> On 04/21/2014 08:33 PM, Andrew Reyes wrote:
> >> aplay -Dhw:xxx --buffer-size 2048 file.wav
> >
> >> (again, xxx is the index or short name of your audio card).
> >
> >> Which application do you normally use to play audio?
> >
> > I'm using JACK right now for recording and gigging live and pulseaudio
> for
> > Youtube and movies.
>
> Bot should of course work, but as they're built on top of ALSA, it's
> best to debug directly on the lower level. IOW: with aplay.
>
> > Here is the pastebin link for the aplay command:
> > http://pastebin.com/3nquKW12
> >
> > Playing WAVE 'Open The Eyes Of My Heart.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little
> Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo
> > aplay: set_params:1233: Sample format non available
> > Available formats:
> > - S32_LE
>
> Ok, in this case, please use "plughw" instead of "hw".
>
>
> Daniel
>
>

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* Re: Behringer Uphoria UMC204 usb audio capture only pops and clicks
  2014-04-21 18:44                 ` Andrew Reyes
@ 2014-04-21 18:49                   ` Andrew Reyes
  2014-04-21 18:54                     ` Daniel Mack
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Reyes @ 2014-04-21 18:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Mack; +Cc: alsa-devel

>> Ok, in this case, please use "plughw" instead of "hw".

> Ok that worked. It plays fine at 44100 but when I try to set
`--period-size=48000` it still defaults to 44100.

I'm sorry I meant to `--rate=48000`.


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Andrew Reyes <dsreyes1014@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Ok, in this case, please use "plughw" instead of "hw".
>
> Ok that worked. It plays fine at 44100 but when I try to set
> `--period-size=48000` it still defaults to 44100.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Daniel Mack <daniel@zonque.org> wrote:
>
>> On 04/21/2014 08:33 PM, Andrew Reyes wrote:
>> >> aplay -Dhw:xxx --buffer-size 2048 file.wav
>> >
>> >> (again, xxx is the index or short name of your audio card).
>> >
>> >> Which application do you normally use to play audio?
>> >
>> > I'm using JACK right now for recording and gigging live and pulseaudio
>> for
>> > Youtube and movies.
>>
>> Bot should of course work, but as they're built on top of ALSA, it's
>> best to debug directly on the lower level. IOW: with aplay.
>>
>> > Here is the pastebin link for the aplay command:
>> > http://pastebin.com/3nquKW12
>> >
>> > Playing WAVE 'Open The Eyes Of My Heart.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little
>> Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo
>> > aplay: set_params:1233: Sample format non available
>> > Available formats:
>> > - S32_LE
>>
>> Ok, in this case, please use "plughw" instead of "hw".
>>
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>

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* Re: Behringer Uphoria UMC204 usb audio capture only pops and clicks
  2014-04-21 18:49                   ` Andrew Reyes
@ 2014-04-21 18:54                     ` Daniel Mack
  2014-04-21 18:56                       ` Andrew Reyes
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Mack @ 2014-04-21 18:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Reyes; +Cc: alsa-devel

On 04/21/2014 08:49 PM, Andrew Reyes wrote:
>>> Ok, in this case, please use "plughw" instead of "hw".
> 
>> Ok that worked. It plays fine at 44100 but when I try to set
> `--period-size=48000` it still defaults to 44100.
> 
> I'm sorry I meant to `--rate=48000`.

Generate some sine wav files in various rates with something like
audacity and play them. FWIW, a 192k file can be found here:

  http://zonque.org/sine-192khz.wav (~22 MB)


Daniel

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* Re: Behringer Uphoria UMC204 usb audio capture only pops and clicks
  2014-04-21 18:54                     ` Daniel Mack
@ 2014-04-21 18:56                       ` Andrew Reyes
  2014-04-21 20:33                         ` Andrew Reyes
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Reyes @ 2014-04-21 18:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Mack; +Cc: alsa-devel

> Generate some sine wav files in various rates with something like
> audacity and play them. FWIW, a 192k file can be found here:

  > http://zonque.org/sine-192khz.wav (~22 MB)

Ok I will try that now.  I should let you know that I just tried the
arecord command for that same device at 48000 and it pops and clicks just
as in JACK.


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Daniel Mack <daniel@zonque.org> wrote:

> On 04/21/2014 08:49 PM, Andrew Reyes wrote:
> >>> Ok, in this case, please use "plughw" instead of "hw".
> >
> >> Ok that worked. It plays fine at 44100 but when I try to set
> > `--period-size=48000` it still defaults to 44100.
> >
> > I'm sorry I meant to `--rate=48000`.
>
> Generate some sine wav files in various rates with something like
> audacity and play them. FWIW, a 192k file can be found here:
>
>   http://zonque.org/sine-192khz.wav (~22 MB)
>
>
> Daniel
>
>

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* Re: Behringer Uphoria UMC204 usb audio capture only pops and clicks
  2014-04-21 18:56                       ` Andrew Reyes
@ 2014-04-21 20:33                         ` Andrew Reyes
  2014-04-23 14:40                           ` Andrew Reyes
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Reyes @ 2014-04-21 20:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Mack; +Cc: alsa-devel

Ok I did playback on a 48khz song and no pops and clicks.  So it's just on
the capture side only.  What could cause that on the capture side of things?


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Andrew Reyes <dsreyes1014@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Generate some sine wav files in various rates with something like
> > audacity and play them. FWIW, a 192k file can be found here:
>
>   > http://zonque.org/sine-192khz.wav (~22 MB)
>
> Ok I will try that now.  I should let you know that I just tried the
> arecord command for that same device at 48000 and it pops and clicks just
> as in JACK.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Daniel Mack <daniel@zonque.org> wrote:
>
>> On 04/21/2014 08:49 PM, Andrew Reyes wrote:
>> >>> Ok, in this case, please use "plughw" instead of "hw".
>> >
>> >> Ok that worked. It plays fine at 44100 but when I try to set
>> > `--period-size=48000` it still defaults to 44100.
>> >
>> > I'm sorry I meant to `--rate=48000`.
>>
>> Generate some sine wav files in various rates with something like
>> audacity and play them. FWIW, a 192k file can be found here:
>>
>>   http://zonque.org/sine-192khz.wav (~22 MB)
>>
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>

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* Re: Behringer Uphoria UMC204 usb audio capture only pops and clicks
  2014-04-21 20:33                         ` Andrew Reyes
@ 2014-04-23 14:40                           ` Andrew Reyes
  2014-04-23 14:59                             ` Daniel Mack
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Reyes @ 2014-04-23 14:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Mack; +Cc: alsa-devel

Is there something else I could do to get to the problem?


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Andrew Reyes <dsreyes1014@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok I did playback on a 48khz song and no pops and clicks.  So it's just on
> the capture side only.  What could cause that on the capture side of things?
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Andrew Reyes <dsreyes1014@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> > Generate some sine wav files in various rates with something like
>> > audacity and play them. FWIW, a 192k file can be found here:
>>
>>   > http://zonque.org/sine-192khz.wav (~22 MB)
>>
>> Ok I will try that now.  I should let you know that I just tried the
>> arecord command for that same device at 48000 and it pops and clicks just
>> as in JACK.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Daniel Mack <daniel@zonque.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 04/21/2014 08:49 PM, Andrew Reyes wrote:
>>> >>> Ok, in this case, please use "plughw" instead of "hw".
>>> >
>>> >> Ok that worked. It plays fine at 44100 but when I try to set
>>> > `--period-size=48000` it still defaults to 44100.
>>> >
>>> > I'm sorry I meant to `--rate=48000`.
>>>
>>> Generate some sine wav files in various rates with something like
>>> audacity and play them. FWIW, a 192k file can be found here:
>>>
>>>   http://zonque.org/sine-192khz.wav (~22 MB)
>>>
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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* Re: Behringer Uphoria UMC204 usb audio capture only pops and clicks
  2014-04-23 14:40                           ` Andrew Reyes
@ 2014-04-23 14:59                             ` Daniel Mack
  2014-04-23 15:40                               ` Andrew Reyes
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Mack @ 2014-04-23 14:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Reyes; +Cc: alsa-devel



On April 23, 2014 4:40:07 PM CEST, Andrew Reyes <dsreyes1014@gmail.com> wrote:
>Is there something else I could do to get to the problem?

I can just give you a few more ideas to debug this, but that includes more action from your side.

* First of all, try the same device on a different computer, and/or a different USB port, especially if you're using an XHCI (USB3) port.

* Try the device on Mac OS X, without installing a driver and see if you have the same problem here.

* Use usbmon and analyze the data stream when a pop occurs. Compare that with settings that don't produce pops. There's good documentation on usbmon in Documentation/usb/ in the Linux kernel.


Best regards,
Daniel

-- 
Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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* Re: Behringer Uphoria UMC204 usb audio capture only pops and clicks
  2014-04-23 14:59                             ` Daniel Mack
@ 2014-04-23 15:40                               ` Andrew Reyes
  2014-04-23 16:18                                 ` Andrew Reyes
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Reyes @ 2014-04-23 15:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Mack; +Cc: alsa-devel

> I can just give you a few more ideas to debug this, but that includes
more action from your side.

> * First of all, try the same device on a different computer, and/or a
different USB port, especially if you're using an XHCI (USB3) port.

> * Try the device on Mac OS X, without installing a driver and see if you
have the same problem here.

> * Use usbmon and analyze the data stream when a pop occurs. Compare that
with settings that don't produce pops. There's good documentation on usbmon
in Documentation/usb/ in the Linux kernel.

Ok cool. I'll get right on that. I did try the first suggestion on four
different computers and different ports and it's the same issue but just to
be thorough I'll check again.


On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Daniel Mack <daniel@zonque.org> wrote:

>
>
> On April 23, 2014 4:40:07 PM CEST, Andrew Reyes <dsreyes1014@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >Is there something else I could do to get to the problem?
>
> I can just give you a few more ideas to debug this, but that includes more
> action from your side.
>
> * First of all, try the same device on a different computer, and/or a
> different USB port, especially if you're using an XHCI (USB3) port.
>
> * Try the device on Mac OS X, without installing a driver and see if you
> have the same problem here.
>
> * Use usbmon and analyze the data stream when a pop occurs. Compare that
> with settings that don't produce pops. There's good documentation on usbmon
> in Documentation/usb/ in the Linux kernel.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Daniel
>
> --
> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>

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* Re: Behringer Uphoria UMC204 usb audio capture only pops and clicks
  2014-04-23 15:40                               ` Andrew Reyes
@ 2014-04-23 16:18                                 ` Andrew Reyes
  2014-04-24 14:14                                   ` Andrew Reyes
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Reyes @ 2014-04-23 16:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Mack; +Cc: alsa-devel

Ok I got the two different logs and I don't what I'm looking for lol.  It's
just raw data. My last option is to try using it on Windows or Mac just to
make sure it's not the interface.


On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Andrew Reyes <dsreyes1014@gmail.com>wrote:

> > I can just give you a few more ideas to debug this, but that includes
> more action from your side.
>
> > * First of all, try the same device on a different computer, and/or a
> different USB port, especially if you're using an XHCI (USB3) port.
>
> > * Try the device on Mac OS X, without installing a driver and see if you
> have the same problem here.
>
> > * Use usbmon and analyze the data stream when a pop occurs. Compare that
> with settings that don't produce pops. There's good documentation on usbmon
> in Documentation/usb/ in the Linux kernel.
>
> Ok cool. I'll get right on that. I did try the first suggestion on four
> different computers and different ports and it's the same issue but just to
> be thorough I'll check again.
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Daniel Mack <daniel@zonque.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On April 23, 2014 4:40:07 PM CEST, Andrew Reyes <dsreyes1014@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >Is there something else I could do to get to the problem?
>>
>> I can just give you a few more ideas to debug this, but that includes
>> more action from your side.
>>
>> * First of all, try the same device on a different computer, and/or a
>> different USB port, especially if you're using an XHCI (USB3) port.
>>
>> * Try the device on Mac OS X, without installing a driver and see if you
>> have the same problem here.
>>
>> * Use usbmon and analyze the data stream when a pop occurs. Compare that
>> with settings that don't produce pops. There's good documentation on usbmon
>> in Documentation/usb/ in the Linux kernel.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Daniel
>>
>> --
>> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>
>
>

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* Re: Behringer Uphoria UMC204 usb audio capture only pops and clicks
  2014-04-23 16:18                                 ` Andrew Reyes
@ 2014-04-24 14:14                                   ` Andrew Reyes
  2014-04-29 17:53                                     ` Andrew Reyes
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Reyes @ 2014-04-24 14:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Mack; +Cc: alsa-devel

Daniel I got my hands on Windows 7 PC and installed the drivers from the
website and it does the samething.  So now I'm leaning toward a defective
soundcard.  I'm sending it back for a new one.


On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Andrew Reyes <dsreyes1014@gmail.com>wrote:

> Ok I got the two different logs and I don't what I'm looking for lol.
> It's just raw data. My last option is to try using it on Windows or Mac
> just to make sure it's not the interface.
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Andrew Reyes <dsreyes1014@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> > I can just give you a few more ideas to debug this, but that includes
>> more action from your side.
>>
>> > * First of all, try the same device on a different computer, and/or a
>> different USB port, especially if you're using an XHCI (USB3) port.
>>
>> > * Try the device on Mac OS X, without installing a driver and see if
>> you have the same problem here.
>>
>> > * Use usbmon and analyze the data stream when a pop occurs. Compare
>> that with settings that don't produce pops. There's good documentation on
>> usbmon in Documentation/usb/ in the Linux kernel.
>>
>> Ok cool. I'll get right on that. I did try the first suggestion on four
>> different computers and different ports and it's the same issue but just to
>> be thorough I'll check again.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Daniel Mack <daniel@zonque.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On April 23, 2014 4:40:07 PM CEST, Andrew Reyes <dsreyes1014@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >Is there something else I could do to get to the problem?
>>>
>>> I can just give you a few more ideas to debug this, but that includes
>>> more action from your side.
>>>
>>> * First of all, try the same device on a different computer, and/or a
>>> different USB port, especially if you're using an XHCI (USB3) port.
>>>
>>> * Try the device on Mac OS X, without installing a driver and see if you
>>> have the same problem here.
>>>
>>> * Use usbmon and analyze the data stream when a pop occurs. Compare that
>>> with settings that don't produce pops. There's good documentation on usbmon
>>> in Documentation/usb/ in the Linux kernel.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>>
>>
>>
>

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* Re: Behringer Uphoria UMC204 usb audio capture only pops and clicks
  2014-04-24 14:14                                   ` Andrew Reyes
@ 2014-04-29 17:53                                     ` Andrew Reyes
  2014-04-29 17:58                                       ` Daniel Mack
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Reyes @ 2014-04-29 17:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Daniel Mack; +Cc: alsa-devel

Daniel it turns out with a brand new UMC204 it still does it on my linux
box.  I'm at a loss.


On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Andrew Reyes <dsreyes1014@gmail.com> wrote:

> Daniel I got my hands on Windows 7 PC and installed the drivers from the
> website and it does the samething.  So now I'm leaning toward a defective
> soundcard.  I'm sending it back for a new one.
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Andrew Reyes <dsreyes1014@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Ok I got the two different logs and I don't what I'm looking for lol.
>> It's just raw data. My last option is to try using it on Windows or Mac
>> just to make sure it's not the interface.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Andrew Reyes <dsreyes1014@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> > I can just give you a few more ideas to debug this, but that includes
>>> more action from your side.
>>>
>>> > * First of all, try the same device on a different computer, and/or a
>>> different USB port, especially if you're using an XHCI (USB3) port.
>>>
>>> > * Try the device on Mac OS X, without installing a driver and see if
>>> you have the same problem here.
>>>
>>> > * Use usbmon and analyze the data stream when a pop occurs. Compare
>>> that with settings that don't produce pops. There's good documentation on
>>> usbmon in Documentation/usb/ in the Linux kernel.
>>>
>>> Ok cool. I'll get right on that. I did try the first suggestion on four
>>> different computers and different ports and it's the same issue but just to
>>> be thorough I'll check again.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Daniel Mack <daniel@zonque.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On April 23, 2014 4:40:07 PM CEST, Andrew Reyes <dsreyes1014@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >Is there something else I could do to get to the problem?
>>>>
>>>> I can just give you a few more ideas to debug this, but that includes
>>>> more action from your side.
>>>>
>>>> * First of all, try the same device on a different computer, and/or a
>>>> different USB port, especially if you're using an XHCI (USB3) port.
>>>>
>>>> * Try the device on Mac OS X, without installing a driver and see if
>>>> you have the same problem here.
>>>>
>>>> * Use usbmon and analyze the data stream when a pop occurs. Compare
>>>> that with settings that don't produce pops. There's good documentation on
>>>> usbmon in Documentation/usb/ in the Linux kernel.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread

* Re: Behringer Uphoria UMC204 usb audio capture only pops and clicks
  2014-04-29 17:53                                     ` Andrew Reyes
@ 2014-04-29 17:58                                       ` Daniel Mack
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Mack @ 2014-04-29 17:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Reyes; +Cc: alsa-devel

(please, do not top post!)

On April 29, 2014 6:53:36 PM WAT, Andrew Reyes <dsreyes1014@gmail.com> wrote:
>Daniel it turns out with a brand new UMC204 it still does it on my
>linux
>box.  I'm at a loss.

Try that one on Windows as well. Uf it doesn't work there either, send tge hardqare back and get a different model. If the hardware has such severe bugs, there nothing the Linux driver can do to fix it up.


Daniel



>On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Andrew Reyes <dsreyes1014@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> Daniel I got my hands on Windows 7 PC and installed the drivers from
>the
>> website and it does the samething.  So now I'm leaning toward a
>defective
>> soundcard.  I'm sending it back for a new one.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Andrew Reyes
><dsreyes1014@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Ok I got the two different logs and I don't what I'm looking for
>lol.
>>> It's just raw data. My last option is to try using it on Windows or
>Mac
>>> just to make sure it's not the interface.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Andrew Reyes
><dsreyes1014@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> > I can just give you a few more ideas to debug this, but that
>includes
>>>> more action from your side.
>>>>
>>>> > * First of all, try the same device on a different computer,
>and/or a
>>>> different USB port, especially if you're using an XHCI (USB3) port.
>>>>
>>>> > * Try the device on Mac OS X, without installing a driver and see
>if
>>>> you have the same problem here.
>>>>
>>>> > * Use usbmon and analyze the data stream when a pop occurs.
>Compare
>>>> that with settings that don't produce pops. There's good
>documentation on
>>>> usbmon in Documentation/usb/ in the Linux kernel.
>>>>
>>>> Ok cool. I'll get right on that. I did try the first suggestion on
>four
>>>> different computers and different ports and it's the same issue but
>just to
>>>> be thorough I'll check again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Daniel Mack <daniel@zonque.org>
>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On April 23, 2014 4:40:07 PM CEST, Andrew Reyes
><dsreyes1014@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >Is there something else I could do to get to the problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> I can just give you a few more ideas to debug this, but that
>includes
>>>>> more action from your side.
>>>>>
>>>>> * First of all, try the same device on a different computer,
>and/or a
>>>>> different USB port, especially if you're using an XHCI (USB3)
>port.
>>>>>
>>>>> * Try the device on Mac OS X, without installing a driver and see
>if
>>>>> you have the same problem here.
>>>>>
>>>>> * Use usbmon and analyze the data stream when a pop occurs.
>Compare
>>>>> that with settings that don't produce pops. There's good
>documentation on
>>>>> usbmon in Documentation/usb/ in the Linux kernel.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my
>brevity.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>


-- 
Sent from my phone. Please excuse my brevity and typos.

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* Behringer Uphoria UMC204 usb audio capture only pops and clicks
@ 2014-04-18  4:30 Andrew Reyes
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Reyes @ 2014-04-18  4:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel

Does the output help?

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread

* Behringer Uphoria UMC204 usb audio capture only pops and clicks
@ 2014-04-16 13:09 Andrew Reyes
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Reyes @ 2014-04-16 13:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel

>Could you send the output of 'lsusb -v', please?

Here is a pastebin link to the output:

-http://pastebin.com/nRULYjZh

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread

* Re: Behringer Uphoria UMC204 usb audio capture only pops and clicks
  2014-04-16  1:44 Andrew Reyes
@ 2014-04-16  8:40 ` Daniel Mack
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Mack @ 2014-04-16  8:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Reyes, alsa-devel

On 04/16/2014 03:44 AM, Andrew Reyes wrote:
> I have a usb Behringer Uphoria UMC204 and it seems to work fine at 44.1khz
> full duplex but anything higher than that I get consistent pops and
> clicks.  I notice it's on the capure side of things as when I have it in
> playback only it's quiet. I have to say I'm testing this using JACK so this
> is how I noticed it on the capture only side of things. I'm not sure
> exactly whats needed to debug this issue. Any help would be appreciated.

Could you send the output of 'lsusb -v', please?


Thanks,
Daniel

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* Behringer Uphoria UMC204 usb audio capture only pops and clicks
@ 2014-04-16  1:44 Andrew Reyes
  2014-04-16  8:40 ` Daniel Mack
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 27+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Reyes @ 2014-04-16  1:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel

I have a usb Behringer Uphoria UMC204 and it seems to work fine at 44.1khz
full duplex but anything higher than that I get consistent pops and
clicks.  I notice it's on the capure side of things as when I have it in
playback only it's quiet. I have to say I'm testing this using JACK so this
is how I noticed it on the capture only side of things. I'm not sure
exactly whats needed to debug this issue. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread

* Behringer Uphoria UMC204 usb audio capture only pops and clicks
@ 2014-04-13 23:47 Andrew Reyes
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Reyes @ 2014-04-13 23:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel

I have a usb Behringer Uphoria UMC204 and it seems to work fine at 44.1khz
full duplex but anything higher than that I get consistent pops and
clicks.  I notice it's on the capure side of things as when I have it in
playback only it's quiet. I have to say I'm testing this using JACK so this
is how I noticed it on the capture only side of things. I'm not sure
exactly whats needed to debug this issue. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread

* Behringer Uphoria UMC204 usb audio capture only pops and clicks
@ 2014-04-12 21:45 Andrew Reyes
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 27+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Reyes @ 2014-04-12 21:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel

I have a usb Behringer Uphoria UMC204 and it seems to work fine at 44.1khz
full duplex but anything higher than that I get consistent pops and
clicks.  I notice it's on the capure side of things as when I have it in
playback only it's quiet. I have to say I'm testing this using JACK so this
is how I noticed it on the capture only side of things. I'm not sure
exactly whats needed to debug this issue. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 27+ messages in thread

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