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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Petr Mladek' <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>
Cc: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Geis <pgwipeout@gmail.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:ARM/Rockchip SoC..."
	<linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: RE: [BUG] Threaded printk breaks early debugging
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 16:11:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c81870cef50f4e1fac5083f0b780983d@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YqcN9mH/aVwBoIMQ@alley>

From: Petr Mladek
> Sent: 13 June 2022 11:14
...
> Another interesting alternative is the Peter Zijlstra's mode
> where all messages are printed to the console "immediately".
> They are serialized only by the CPU-reentrant lock.
> 
> This mode is not good for production system. But it might
> be good for debugging. The good thing is that the behavior
> is well defined.

ISTM that all messages should be output (even if this means
that cpu spin waiting for a serial console) until userspace
has a chance to set an option to change the behaviour.

Oh, and can someone stop the distros hiding the console output.
I want to see the 'oops' traceback when I break the kernel!

	David

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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Petr Mladek' <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>
Cc: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Geis <pgwipeout@gmail.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:ARM/Rockchip SoC..."
	<linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: RE: [BUG] Threaded printk breaks early debugging
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2022 16:11:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c81870cef50f4e1fac5083f0b780983d@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YqcN9mH/aVwBoIMQ@alley>

From: Petr Mladek
> Sent: 13 June 2022 11:14
...
> Another interesting alternative is the Peter Zijlstra's mode
> where all messages are printed to the console "immediately".
> They are serialized only by the CPU-reentrant lock.
> 
> This mode is not good for production system. But it might
> be good for debugging. The good thing is that the behavior
> is well defined.

ISTM that all messages should be output (even if this means
that cpu spin waiting for a serial console) until userspace
has a chance to set an option to change the behaviour.

Oh, and can someone stop the distros hiding the console output.
I want to see the 'oops' traceback when I break the kernel!

	David

-
Registered Address Lakeside, Bramley Road, Mount Farm, Milton Keynes, MK1 1PT, UK
Registration No: 1397386 (Wales)


  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-13 16:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-10 12:48 [BUG] Threaded printk breaks early debugging Peter Geis
2022-06-10 12:48 ` Peter Geis
2022-06-10 15:05 ` John Ogness
2022-06-10 15:05   ` John Ogness
2022-06-10 15:34   ` Peter Geis
2022-06-10 15:34     ` Peter Geis
2022-06-12  2:57     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-06-12  2:57       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-06-12 13:30       ` Peter Geis
2022-06-12 13:30         ` Peter Geis
2022-06-12 23:08     ` John Ogness
2022-06-12 23:08       ` John Ogness
2022-06-12 23:30       ` Peter Geis
2022-06-12 23:30         ` Peter Geis
2022-06-13  2:23         ` John Ogness
2022-06-13  2:23           ` John Ogness
2022-06-13 15:11           ` Petr Mladek
2022-06-13 15:11             ` Petr Mladek
2022-06-13 22:20             ` Peter Geis
2022-06-13 22:20               ` Peter Geis
2022-06-14  8:38               ` Petr Mladek
2022-06-14  8:38                 ` Petr Mladek
2022-06-13 11:24         ` Petr Mladek
2022-06-13 11:24           ` Petr Mladek
2022-06-12  3:13   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-06-12  3:13     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-06-12 23:02     ` John Ogness
2022-06-12 23:02       ` John Ogness
2022-06-13  3:49       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-06-13  3:49         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-06-13  8:30         ` John Ogness
2022-06-13  8:30           ` John Ogness
2022-06-13  9:05           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-06-13  9:05             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2022-06-13 10:14             ` Petr Mladek
2022-06-13 10:14               ` Petr Mladek
2022-06-13 16:11               ` David Laight [this message]
2022-06-13 16:11                 ` David Laight
2022-06-14  8:37                 ` Petr Mladek
2022-06-14  8:37                   ` Petr Mladek

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