From: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de> To: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> Cc: tvrtko.ursulin@linux.intel.com, dim-tools@lists.freedesktop.org, daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, rodrigo.vivi@intel.com Subject: Re: [PULL] drm-misc-next Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 16:35:15 +0100 [thread overview] Message-ID: <d2345ff2-3fc3-1a44-6ace-d05a29feb5b3@suse.de> (raw) In-Reply-To: <3c426ff9-e2de-86ee-6b49-443fea3437ff@physik.fu-berlin.de> [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1559 bytes --] Hi Am 23.01.23 um 16:23 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz: > Hi Thomas! > > On 1/23/23 16:13, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: >>>> Driver Changes: >>>> >>>> * Remove obsolete drivers for userspace modesetting i810, mga, r128, >>>> savage, sis, tdfx, via >>> >>> Is the Rage 128 GPU still supported via the generic modesetting driver? >>> >>> I'm asking because, we're still supporting PowerMacs in Debian Ports >>> of which >>> some of those are sporting a Rage 128 GPU. Similar question applies >>> to the >>> i810 GPU used in some old ThinkPads, for example. >> >> Yes, all of those chips are still supported by the generic modesetting >> drivers >> and even the old userspace Xorg drivers. > > OK, good to know. > >> The only thing that is not supported any longer is >> hardware-accelerated 3d rendering. >> However, this has not worked anyway, as Mesa has dropped support for >> those chips a long >> time ago. > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that's what Mesa Classic was > forked off for? AFAIK Mesa classic is for old radeon, i915 and old nouveau code. The so-called amber branch: https://docs.mesa3d.org/amber.html But the removed code is for even older hardware. https://docs.mesa3d.org/systems.html#deprecated-systems-and-drivers Best regards Thomas > > Thanks, > Adrian > -- Thomas Zimmermann Graphics Driver Developer SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany (HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg) Geschäftsführer: Ivo Totev [-- Attachment #2: OpenPGP digital signature --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 840 bytes --]
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From: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de> To: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> Cc: dim-tools@lists.freedesktop.org, daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, rodrigo.vivi@intel.com Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PULL] drm-misc-next Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2023 16:35:15 +0100 [thread overview] Message-ID: <d2345ff2-3fc3-1a44-6ace-d05a29feb5b3@suse.de> (raw) In-Reply-To: <3c426ff9-e2de-86ee-6b49-443fea3437ff@physik.fu-berlin.de> [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1559 bytes --] Hi Am 23.01.23 um 16:23 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz: > Hi Thomas! > > On 1/23/23 16:13, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: >>>> Driver Changes: >>>> >>>> * Remove obsolete drivers for userspace modesetting i810, mga, r128, >>>> savage, sis, tdfx, via >>> >>> Is the Rage 128 GPU still supported via the generic modesetting driver? >>> >>> I'm asking because, we're still supporting PowerMacs in Debian Ports >>> of which >>> some of those are sporting a Rage 128 GPU. Similar question applies >>> to the >>> i810 GPU used in some old ThinkPads, for example. >> >> Yes, all of those chips are still supported by the generic modesetting >> drivers >> and even the old userspace Xorg drivers. > > OK, good to know. > >> The only thing that is not supported any longer is >> hardware-accelerated 3d rendering. >> However, this has not worked anyway, as Mesa has dropped support for >> those chips a long >> time ago. > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that's what Mesa Classic was > forked off for? AFAIK Mesa classic is for old radeon, i915 and old nouveau code. The so-called amber branch: https://docs.mesa3d.org/amber.html But the removed code is for even older hardware. https://docs.mesa3d.org/systems.html#deprecated-systems-and-drivers Best regards Thomas > > Thanks, > Adrian > -- Thomas Zimmermann Graphics Driver Developer SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany (HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg) Geschäftsführer: Ivo Totev [-- Attachment #2: OpenPGP digital signature --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 840 bytes --]
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