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From: Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>
To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	Connor Kuehl <ckuehl@redhat.com>,
	Brijesh Singh <brijesh.singh@amd.com>,
	Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/5] Qemu SEV-ES guest support
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 13:56:21 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <de0e9c27-8954-3a77-21db-cad84f334277@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200917172802.GS2793@work-vm>

On 9/17/20 12:28 PM, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> * Tom Lendacky (thomas.lendacky@amd.com) wrote:
>> From: Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>
>>
>> This patch series provides support for launching an SEV-ES guest.
>>
>> Secure Encrypted Virtualization - Encrypted State (SEV-ES) expands on the
>> SEV support to protect the guest register state from the hypervisor. See
>> "AMD64 Architecture Programmer's Manual Volume 2: System Programming",
>> section "15.35 Encrypted State (SEV-ES)" [1].
>>
>> In order to allow a hypervisor to perform functions on behalf of a guest,
>> there is architectural support for notifying a guest's operating system
>> when certain types of VMEXITs are about to occur. This allows the guest to
>> selectively share information with the hypervisor to satisfy the requested
>> function. The notification is performed using a new exception, the VMM
>> Communication exception (#VC). The information is shared through the
>> Guest-Hypervisor Communication Block (GHCB) using the VMGEXIT instruction.
>> The GHCB format and the protocol for using it is documented in "SEV-ES
>> Guest-Hypervisor Communication Block Standardization" [2].
>>
>> The main areas of the Qemu code that are updated to support SEV-ES are
>> around the SEV guest launch process and AP booting in order to support
>> booting multiple vCPUs.
>>
>> There are no new command line switches required. Instead, the desire for
>> SEV-ES is presented using the SEV policy object. Bit 2 of the SEV policy
>> object indicates that SEV-ES is required.
>>
>> The SEV launch process is updated in two ways. The first is that a the
>> KVM_SEV_ES_INIT ioctl is used to initialize the guest instead of the
>> standard KVM_SEV_INIT ioctl. The second is that before the SEV launch
>> measurement is calculated, the LAUNCH_UPDATE_VMSA SEV API is invoked for
>> each vCPU that Qemu has created. Once the LAUNCH_UPDATE_VMSA API has been
>> invoked, no direct changes to the guest register state can be made.
>>
>> AP booting poses some interesting challenges. The INIT-SIPI-SIPI sequence
>> is typically used to boot the APs. However, the hypervisor is not allowed
>> to update the guest registers. For the APs, the reset vector must be known
>> in advance. An OVMF method to provide a known reset vector address exists
>> by providing an SEV information block, identified by UUID, near the end of
>> the firmware [3]. OVMF will program the jump to the actual reset vector in
>> this area of memory. Since the memory location is known in advance, an AP
>> can be created with the known reset vector address as its starting CS:IP.
>> The GHCB document [2] talks about how SMP booting under SEV-ES is
>> performed. SEV-ES also requires the use of the in-kernel irqchip support
>> in order to minimize the changes required to Qemu to support AP booting.
> 
> Some random thoughts:
>    a) Is there something that explicitly disallows SMM?

There isn't currently. Is there a way to know early on that SMM is 
enabled? Could I just call x86_machine_is_smm_enabled() to check that?

>    b) I think all the interfaces you're using are already defined in
> Linux header files - even if the code to implement them isn't actually
> upstream in the kernel yet (the launch_update in particular) - we
> normally wait for the kernel interface to be accepted before taking the
> QEMU patches, but if the constants are in the headers already I'm not
> sure what the rule is.

Correct, everything was already present from a Linux header perspective.

>    c) What happens if QEMU reads the register values from the state if
> the guest is paused - does it just see junk?  I'm just wondering if you
> need to add checks in places it might try to.

I thought about what to do about calls to read the registers once the 
guest state has become encrypted. I think it would take a lot of changes 
to make Qemu "protected state aware" for what I see as little gain. Qemu 
is likely to see a lot of zeroes or actual register values from the GHCB 
protocol for previous VMGEXITs that took place.

Thanks,
Tom

> 
> Dave
> 
>> [1] https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amd.com%2Fsystem%2Ffiles%2FTechDocs%2F24593.pdf&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cthomas.lendacky%40amd.com%7Cb07b788e09054a91143308d85b2f1a89%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637359606292398926&amp;sdata=B2naGIEXuhD7a%2Fi4NDsRzeHwvDvNJ%2FP7nf5HmAzk9CU%3D&amp;reserved=0
>> [2] https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdeveloper.amd.com%2Fwp-content%2Fresources%2F56421.pdf&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cthomas.lendacky%40amd.com%7Cb07b788e09054a91143308d85b2f1a89%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637359606292398926&amp;sdata=0HrHZxdTEK%2FWM1KxxasMAghpzTNGvuKKSlg6nBgPjJY%3D&amp;reserved=0
>> [3] 30937f2f98c4 ("OvmfPkg: Use the SEV-ES work area for the SEV-ES AP reset vector")
>>      https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Ftianocore%2Fedk2%2Fcommit%2F30937f2f98c42496f2f143fe8374ae7f7e684847&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cthomas.lendacky%40amd.com%7Cb07b788e09054a91143308d85b2f1a89%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637359606292408916&amp;sdata=ISAjIahZH4izDHnXgdWDX0GK61kwgtTw%2BEE%2BS8FBls0%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>
>> ---
>>
>> These patches are based on commit:
>> d0ed6a69d3 ("Update version for v5.1.0 release")
>>
>> (I tried basing on the latest Qemu commit, but I was having build issues
>> that level)
>>
>> A version of the tree can be found at:
>> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FAMDESE%2Fqemu%2Ftree%2Fsev-es-v11&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cthomas.lendacky%40amd.com%7Cb07b788e09054a91143308d85b2f1a89%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637359606292408916&amp;sdata=pWd8HAZkAILIMRb1i5TNz9XoHyrhCgRu%2Bq%2BXN2NJ4ag%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>
>> Changes since v2:
>> - Add in-kernel irqchip requirement for SEV-ES guests
>>
>> Changes since v1:
>> - Fixed checkpatch.pl errors/warnings
>>
>> Tom Lendacky (5):
>>    sev/i386: Add initial support for SEV-ES
>>    sev/i386: Require in-kernel irqchip support for SEV-ES guests
>>    sev/i386: Allow AP booting under SEV-ES
>>    sev/i386: Don't allow a system reset under an SEV-ES guest
>>    sev/i386: Enable an SEV-ES guest based on SEV policy
>>
>>   accel/kvm/kvm-all.c       |  73 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>   accel/stubs/kvm-stub.c    |   5 ++
>>   hw/i386/pc_sysfw.c        |  10 +++-
>>   include/sysemu/cpus.h     |   2 +
>>   include/sysemu/hw_accel.h |   5 ++
>>   include/sysemu/kvm.h      |  18 +++++++
>>   include/sysemu/sev.h      |   3 ++
>>   softmmu/cpus.c            |   5 ++
>>   softmmu/vl.c              |   5 +-
>>   target/i386/cpu.c         |   1 +
>>   target/i386/kvm.c         |   2 +
>>   target/i386/sev-stub.c    |   5 ++
>>   target/i386/sev.c         | 105 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>>   target/i386/sev_i386.h    |   1 +
>>   14 files changed, 236 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>>
>> -- 
>> 2.28.0
>>

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>
To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Cc: Brijesh Singh <brijesh.singh@amd.com>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Connor Kuehl <ckuehl@redhat.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>, Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/5] Qemu SEV-ES guest support
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 13:56:21 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <de0e9c27-8954-3a77-21db-cad84f334277@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200917172802.GS2793@work-vm>

On 9/17/20 12:28 PM, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> * Tom Lendacky (thomas.lendacky@amd.com) wrote:
>> From: Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>
>>
>> This patch series provides support for launching an SEV-ES guest.
>>
>> Secure Encrypted Virtualization - Encrypted State (SEV-ES) expands on the
>> SEV support to protect the guest register state from the hypervisor. See
>> "AMD64 Architecture Programmer's Manual Volume 2: System Programming",
>> section "15.35 Encrypted State (SEV-ES)" [1].
>>
>> In order to allow a hypervisor to perform functions on behalf of a guest,
>> there is architectural support for notifying a guest's operating system
>> when certain types of VMEXITs are about to occur. This allows the guest to
>> selectively share information with the hypervisor to satisfy the requested
>> function. The notification is performed using a new exception, the VMM
>> Communication exception (#VC). The information is shared through the
>> Guest-Hypervisor Communication Block (GHCB) using the VMGEXIT instruction.
>> The GHCB format and the protocol for using it is documented in "SEV-ES
>> Guest-Hypervisor Communication Block Standardization" [2].
>>
>> The main areas of the Qemu code that are updated to support SEV-ES are
>> around the SEV guest launch process and AP booting in order to support
>> booting multiple vCPUs.
>>
>> There are no new command line switches required. Instead, the desire for
>> SEV-ES is presented using the SEV policy object. Bit 2 of the SEV policy
>> object indicates that SEV-ES is required.
>>
>> The SEV launch process is updated in two ways. The first is that a the
>> KVM_SEV_ES_INIT ioctl is used to initialize the guest instead of the
>> standard KVM_SEV_INIT ioctl. The second is that before the SEV launch
>> measurement is calculated, the LAUNCH_UPDATE_VMSA SEV API is invoked for
>> each vCPU that Qemu has created. Once the LAUNCH_UPDATE_VMSA API has been
>> invoked, no direct changes to the guest register state can be made.
>>
>> AP booting poses some interesting challenges. The INIT-SIPI-SIPI sequence
>> is typically used to boot the APs. However, the hypervisor is not allowed
>> to update the guest registers. For the APs, the reset vector must be known
>> in advance. An OVMF method to provide a known reset vector address exists
>> by providing an SEV information block, identified by UUID, near the end of
>> the firmware [3]. OVMF will program the jump to the actual reset vector in
>> this area of memory. Since the memory location is known in advance, an AP
>> can be created with the known reset vector address as its starting CS:IP.
>> The GHCB document [2] talks about how SMP booting under SEV-ES is
>> performed. SEV-ES also requires the use of the in-kernel irqchip support
>> in order to minimize the changes required to Qemu to support AP booting.
> 
> Some random thoughts:
>    a) Is there something that explicitly disallows SMM?

There isn't currently. Is there a way to know early on that SMM is 
enabled? Could I just call x86_machine_is_smm_enabled() to check that?

>    b) I think all the interfaces you're using are already defined in
> Linux header files - even if the code to implement them isn't actually
> upstream in the kernel yet (the launch_update in particular) - we
> normally wait for the kernel interface to be accepted before taking the
> QEMU patches, but if the constants are in the headers already I'm not
> sure what the rule is.

Correct, everything was already present from a Linux header perspective.

>    c) What happens if QEMU reads the register values from the state if
> the guest is paused - does it just see junk?  I'm just wondering if you
> need to add checks in places it might try to.

I thought about what to do about calls to read the registers once the 
guest state has become encrypted. I think it would take a lot of changes 
to make Qemu "protected state aware" for what I see as little gain. Qemu 
is likely to see a lot of zeroes or actual register values from the GHCB 
protocol for previous VMGEXITs that took place.

Thanks,
Tom

> 
> Dave
> 
>> [1] https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amd.com%2Fsystem%2Ffiles%2FTechDocs%2F24593.pdf&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cthomas.lendacky%40amd.com%7Cb07b788e09054a91143308d85b2f1a89%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637359606292398926&amp;sdata=B2naGIEXuhD7a%2Fi4NDsRzeHwvDvNJ%2FP7nf5HmAzk9CU%3D&amp;reserved=0
>> [2] https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdeveloper.amd.com%2Fwp-content%2Fresources%2F56421.pdf&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cthomas.lendacky%40amd.com%7Cb07b788e09054a91143308d85b2f1a89%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637359606292398926&amp;sdata=0HrHZxdTEK%2FWM1KxxasMAghpzTNGvuKKSlg6nBgPjJY%3D&amp;reserved=0
>> [3] 30937f2f98c4 ("OvmfPkg: Use the SEV-ES work area for the SEV-ES AP reset vector")
>>      https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Ftianocore%2Fedk2%2Fcommit%2F30937f2f98c42496f2f143fe8374ae7f7e684847&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cthomas.lendacky%40amd.com%7Cb07b788e09054a91143308d85b2f1a89%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637359606292408916&amp;sdata=ISAjIahZH4izDHnXgdWDX0GK61kwgtTw%2BEE%2BS8FBls0%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>
>> ---
>>
>> These patches are based on commit:
>> d0ed6a69d3 ("Update version for v5.1.0 release")
>>
>> (I tried basing on the latest Qemu commit, but I was having build issues
>> that level)
>>
>> A version of the tree can be found at:
>> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FAMDESE%2Fqemu%2Ftree%2Fsev-es-v11&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cthomas.lendacky%40amd.com%7Cb07b788e09054a91143308d85b2f1a89%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637359606292408916&amp;sdata=pWd8HAZkAILIMRb1i5TNz9XoHyrhCgRu%2Bq%2BXN2NJ4ag%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>
>> Changes since v2:
>> - Add in-kernel irqchip requirement for SEV-ES guests
>>
>> Changes since v1:
>> - Fixed checkpatch.pl errors/warnings
>>
>> Tom Lendacky (5):
>>    sev/i386: Add initial support for SEV-ES
>>    sev/i386: Require in-kernel irqchip support for SEV-ES guests
>>    sev/i386: Allow AP booting under SEV-ES
>>    sev/i386: Don't allow a system reset under an SEV-ES guest
>>    sev/i386: Enable an SEV-ES guest based on SEV policy
>>
>>   accel/kvm/kvm-all.c       |  73 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>   accel/stubs/kvm-stub.c    |   5 ++
>>   hw/i386/pc_sysfw.c        |  10 +++-
>>   include/sysemu/cpus.h     |   2 +
>>   include/sysemu/hw_accel.h |   5 ++
>>   include/sysemu/kvm.h      |  18 +++++++
>>   include/sysemu/sev.h      |   3 ++
>>   softmmu/cpus.c            |   5 ++
>>   softmmu/vl.c              |   5 +-
>>   target/i386/cpu.c         |   1 +
>>   target/i386/kvm.c         |   2 +
>>   target/i386/sev-stub.c    |   5 ++
>>   target/i386/sev.c         | 105 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>>   target/i386/sev_i386.h    |   1 +
>>   14 files changed, 236 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>>
>> -- 
>> 2.28.0
>>


  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-17 18:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-15 21:29 [PATCH v3 0/5] Qemu SEV-ES guest support Tom Lendacky
2020-09-15 21:29 ` Tom Lendacky
2020-09-15 21:29 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] sev/i386: Add initial support for SEV-ES Tom Lendacky
2020-09-15 21:29   ` Tom Lendacky
2020-09-17 16:36   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-17 16:36     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-21  6:45   ` Dov Murik
2020-09-21 13:55     ` Tom Lendacky
2020-09-15 21:29 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] sev/i386: Require in-kernel irqchip support for SEV-ES guests Tom Lendacky
2020-09-15 21:29   ` Tom Lendacky
2020-09-15 21:29 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] sev/i386: Allow AP booting under SEV-ES Tom Lendacky
2020-09-15 21:29   ` Tom Lendacky
2020-09-16  9:23   ` Laszlo Ersek
2020-09-16 20:31     ` Tom Lendacky
2020-09-17 16:46   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-17 16:46     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-17 18:07     ` Tom Lendacky
2020-09-17 18:07       ` Tom Lendacky
2020-09-15 21:29 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] sev/i386: Don't allow a system reset under an SEV-ES guest Tom Lendacky
2020-09-15 21:29   ` Tom Lendacky
2020-09-17 17:01   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-17 17:01     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-17 18:16     ` Tom Lendacky
2020-09-17 18:16       ` Tom Lendacky
2020-09-18  9:23       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-18  9:23         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-15 21:29 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] sev/i386: Enable an SEV-ES guest based on SEV policy Tom Lendacky
2020-09-15 21:29   ` Tom Lendacky
2020-09-17 15:34   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-17 15:34     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-17 16:07     ` Tom Lendacky
2020-09-17 16:07       ` Tom Lendacky
2020-09-17 16:11       ` Tom Lendacky
2020-09-17 16:11         ` Tom Lendacky
2020-09-17 17:28 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] Qemu SEV-ES guest support Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-17 17:28   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-17 18:56   ` Tom Lendacky [this message]
2020-09-17 18:56     ` Tom Lendacky
2020-09-18  3:40     ` Sean Christopherson
2020-09-18 15:54       ` Tom Lendacky
2020-09-18 15:54         ` Tom Lendacky
2020-09-18 10:00     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-18 10:00       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-18 18:47       ` Tom Lendacky
2020-09-18 18:47         ` Tom Lendacky
2020-09-21 11:48         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-21 11:48           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-09-21 14:23           ` Tom Lendacky
2020-09-21 14:23             ` Tom Lendacky

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