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From: Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	bp@alien8.de, dwmw@amazon.co.uk, gregkh@linux-foundation.org,
	pjt@google.com, mingo@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	hpa@zytor.com, tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [tip:x86/pti] x86/cpu/AMD: Use LFENCE_RDTSC instead of MFENCE_RDTSC
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 11:21:18 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e3778bbd-855f-e45a-534e-da73cd423cc6@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0be27b7e-7285-b23b-7eda-55a70338d16c@redhat.com>

On 1/8/2018 11:01 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 08/01/2018 17:48, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
>>> If your hypervisor is lying to you about the primary family, then all
>>> bets are off.  I don't expect there will be any production systems doing
>>> this.
>> It's not that an unusual thing to do on qemu/kvm - to specify the lowest
>> common denominator of the set of CPUs in your data centre (for any one
>> vendor); it does tend to get some weird combinations.
> 
> Agreed.  But on a hypervisor we pretty much know that:
> 
> - the MSR_AMD64_DE_CFG doesn't exist unless you have a fix
> 
> - setting the MSR_AMD64_DE_CFG bit to 1 if you have a fix can be done
> independent of the family
> 
> So all KVM needs is a X86_FEATURE_LFENCE_SERIALIZE, it doesn't matter if
> it's because of the family or because Linux has set MSR_F10H_DE_CFG.
> The guest will either try setting the MSR bit and #GP, or it will find
> it already set and do nothing.
> 
> Of course no code for this has been written yet.
> 

Hi Paolo,

What would be the best way to approach the MSR support?  I was thinking of
just recognizing a write to that MSR but not actually doing anything and,
on read, just returning a value with the single bit set if LFENCE is
serializing and not worrying about the full contents of the MSR.  Or I
could save the value so that it could also be host initiated and only
allow the LFENCE serialization bit to be set if the LFENCE_RDTSC feature
is enabled.

Thanks,
Tom

> Paolo
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-01-17 17:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-05 16:07 [PATCH v1 0/3] x86/cpu/AMD: Make LFENCE a serializing instruction on AMD Tom Lendacky
2018-01-05 16:07 ` [PATCH v1 1/3] x86/cpu/AMD: Make LFENCE a serializing instruction Tom Lendacky
2018-01-05 16:35   ` Brian Gerst
2018-01-05 16:36     ` Tom Lendacky
2018-01-06 21:05   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for Tom Lendacky
2018-01-05 16:07 ` [PATCH v1 2/3] x86/cpu/AMD: Use LFENCE_RDTSC instead of MFENCE_RDTSC Tom Lendacky
2018-01-06 21:06   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for Tom Lendacky
2018-01-08 10:08     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-08 10:23       ` Woodhouse, David
2018-01-08 10:25         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-08 10:40       ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-08 11:10         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-08 14:47           ` Tom Lendacky
2018-01-08 14:54             ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-08 16:48               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-01-08 17:01                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-08 17:39                   ` Tom Lendacky
2018-01-08 17:42                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-17 17:21                   ` Tom Lendacky [this message]
2018-01-17 17:53                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-01-08 15:02             ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-08 15:15             ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-08 17:31               ` Tom Lendacky
2018-01-08 20:57                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-05 16:08 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] x86/msr: Remove now unused definition of MFENCE_RDTSC feature Tom Lendacky
2018-01-06 21:06   ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for Tom Lendacky
2018-01-05 16:56 ` [PATCH v1 0/3] x86/cpu/AMD: Make LFENCE a serializing instruction on AMD Borislav Petkov

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