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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>, rong.a.chen@intel.com
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	s.priebe@profihost.ag, alex.williamson@redhat.com,
	mgorman@techsingularity.net, zi.yan@cs.rutgers.edu,
	rientjes@google.com, kirill@shutemov.name,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	lkp@01.org
Subject: Re: [LKP] [mm] ac5b2c1891: vm-scalability.throughput -61.3% regression
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 20:05:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e4994820-ad41-a510-f579-7b0fc97d8d6f@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wiq9eTzenOPh9srdB=Y8NcP6NJxh7o8Y5SfSjfqZ20-RA@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/27/18 6:08 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:24 PM kernel test robot
> <rong.a.chen@intel.com> wrote:
>>
>> FYI, we noticed a -61.3% regression of vm-scalability.throughput due
>> to commit ac5b2c18911f ("mm: thp: relax __GFP_THISNODE for
>> MADV_HUGEPAGE mappings")
> 
> Well, that's certainly noticeable and not good.
> 
> Andrea, I suspect it might be causing fights with auto numa migration..
> 
> Lots more system time, but also look at this:
> 
>>    1122389 ±  9%     +17.2%    1315380 ±  4%  proc-vmstat.numa_hit
>>     214722 ±  5%     +21.6%     261076 ±  3%  proc-vmstat.numa_huge_pte_updates
>>    1108142 ±  9%     +17.4%    1300857 ±  4%  proc-vmstat.numa_local
>>     145368 ± 48%     +63.1%     237050 ± 17%  proc-vmstat.numa_miss
>>     159615 ± 44%     +57.6%     251573 ± 16%  proc-vmstat.numa_other
>>     185.50 ± 81%   +8278.6%      15542 ± 40%  proc-vmstat.numa_pages_migrated
> 
> Should the commit be reverted? Or perhaps at least modified?

This part of the test's config is important:

thp_defrag: always

While the commit targets MADV_HUGEPAGE mappings (such as Andrea's
kvm-qemu usecase), with defrag=always, all mappings behave almost as a
MADV_HUGEPAGE mapping. That's no longer a default for some years now and
I think nobody recommends it. In the default configuration nothing
changes for non-madvise mappings.

Vlastimil

>                      Linus
> 


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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: lkp@lists.01.org
Subject: Re: [mm] ac5b2c1891: vm-scalability.throughput -61.3% regression
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 20:05:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e4994820-ad41-a510-f579-7b0fc97d8d6f@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wiq9eTzenOPh9srdB=Y8NcP6NJxh7o8Y5SfSjfqZ20-RA@mail.gmail.com>

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On 11/27/18 6:08 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 10:24 PM kernel test robot
> <rong.a.chen@intel.com> wrote:
>>
>> FYI, we noticed a -61.3% regression of vm-scalability.throughput due
>> to commit ac5b2c18911f ("mm: thp: relax __GFP_THISNODE for
>> MADV_HUGEPAGE mappings")
> 
> Well, that's certainly noticeable and not good.
> 
> Andrea, I suspect it might be causing fights with auto numa migration..
> 
> Lots more system time, but also look at this:
> 
>>    1122389 ±  9%     +17.2%    1315380 ±  4%  proc-vmstat.numa_hit
>>     214722 ±  5%     +21.6%     261076 ±  3%  proc-vmstat.numa_huge_pte_updates
>>    1108142 ±  9%     +17.4%    1300857 ±  4%  proc-vmstat.numa_local
>>     145368 ± 48%     +63.1%     237050 ± 17%  proc-vmstat.numa_miss
>>     159615 ± 44%     +57.6%     251573 ± 16%  proc-vmstat.numa_other
>>     185.50 ± 81%   +8278.6%      15542 ± 40%  proc-vmstat.numa_pages_migrated
> 
> Should the commit be reverted? Or perhaps at least modified?

This part of the test's config is important:

thp_defrag: always

While the commit targets MADV_HUGEPAGE mappings (such as Andrea's
kvm-qemu usecase), with defrag=always, all mappings behave almost as a
MADV_HUGEPAGE mapping. That's no longer a default for some years now and
I think nobody recommends it. In the default configuration nothing
changes for non-madvise mappings.

Vlastimil

>                      Linus
> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-11-27 19:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 154+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-27  6:25 [LKP] [mm] ac5b2c1891: vm-scalability.throughput -61.3% regression kernel test robot
2018-11-27  6:25 ` kernel test robot
2018-11-27 17:08 ` [LKP] " Linus Torvalds
2018-11-27 17:08   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-27 18:17   ` [LKP] " Michal Hocko
2018-11-27 18:17     ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-27 18:21     ` [LKP] " Michal Hocko
2018-11-27 18:21       ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-27 19:05   ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2018-11-27 19:05     ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-11-27 19:16     ` [LKP] " Vlastimil Babka
2018-11-27 19:16       ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-11-27 20:57   ` [LKP] " Andrea Arcangeli
2018-11-27 20:57     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-11-27 22:50     ` [LKP] " Linus Torvalds
2018-11-27 22:50       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-28  6:30       ` [LKP] " Michal Hocko
2018-11-28  6:30         ` Michal Hocko
2018-11-28  3:20     ` [LKP] " Huang, Ying
2018-11-28  3:20       ` Huang, Ying
2018-11-28 16:48       ` [LKP] " Linus Torvalds
2018-11-28 16:48         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-11-28 18:39         ` [LKP] " Andrea Arcangeli
2018-11-28 18:39           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-11-28 23:10         ` [LKP] " David Rientjes
2018-11-28 23:10           ` David Rientjes
2018-12-03 18:01         ` [LKP] " Linus Torvalds
2018-12-03 18:01           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-03 18:14           ` [LKP] " Michal Hocko
2018-12-03 18:14             ` Michal Hocko
2018-12-03 18:19             ` [LKP] " Linus Torvalds
2018-12-03 18:19               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-03 18:30               ` [LKP] " Michal Hocko
2018-12-03 18:30                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-12-03 18:45                 ` [LKP] " Linus Torvalds
2018-12-03 18:45                   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-03 18:59                   ` [LKP] " Michal Hocko
2018-12-03 18:59                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-12-03 19:23                     ` [LKP] " Andrea Arcangeli
2018-12-03 19:23                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-12-03 20:26                       ` [LKP] " David Rientjes
2018-12-03 20:26                         ` David Rientjes
2018-12-03 19:28                     ` [LKP] " Linus Torvalds
2018-12-03 19:28                       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-03 20:12                       ` [LKP] " Andrea Arcangeli
2018-12-03 20:12                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-12-03 20:36                         ` [LKP] " David Rientjes
2018-12-03 20:36                           ` David Rientjes
2018-12-03 22:04                         ` [LKP] " Linus Torvalds
2018-12-03 22:04                           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-03 22:27                           ` [LKP] " Linus Torvalds
2018-12-03 22:27                             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-03 22:57                             ` [LKP] " David Rientjes
2018-12-03 22:57                               ` David Rientjes
2018-12-04  9:22                             ` [LKP] " Vlastimil Babka
2018-12-04  9:22                               ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-12-04 10:45                               ` [LKP] " Mel Gorman
2018-12-04 10:45                                 ` Mel Gorman
2018-12-05  0:47                                 ` [LKP] " David Rientjes
2018-12-05  0:47                                   ` David Rientjes
2018-12-05  9:08                                   ` [LKP] " Michal Hocko
2018-12-05  9:08                                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-12-05 10:43                                     ` [LKP] " Mel Gorman
2018-12-05 10:43                                       ` Mel Gorman
2018-12-05 11:43                                       ` [LKP] " Michal Hocko
2018-12-05 11:43                                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-12-05 10:06                                 ` [LKP] " Mel Gorman
2018-12-05 10:06                                   ` Mel Gorman
2018-12-05 20:40                                 ` [LKP] " Andrea Arcangeli
2018-12-05 20:40                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-12-05 21:59                                   ` [LKP] " David Rientjes
2018-12-05 21:59                                     ` David Rientjes
2018-12-06  0:00                                     ` [LKP] " Andrea Arcangeli
2018-12-06  0:00                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-12-05 22:03                                   ` [LKP] " Linus Torvalds
2018-12-05 22:03                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-05 22:12                                     ` [LKP] " David Rientjes
2018-12-05 22:12                                       ` David Rientjes
2018-12-05 23:36                                     ` [LKP] " Andrea Arcangeli
2018-12-05 23:36                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-12-05 23:51                                       ` [LKP] " Linus Torvalds
2018-12-05 23:51                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-06  0:58                                         ` [LKP] " Linus Torvalds
2018-12-06  0:58                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-06  9:14                                           ` MADV_HUGEPAGE vs. NUMA semantic (was: Re: [LKP] [mm] ac5b2c1891: vm-scalability.throughput -61.3% regression) Michal Hocko
2018-12-06  9:14                                             ` MADV_HUGEPAGE vs. NUMA semantic (was: " Michal Hocko
2018-12-06 23:49                                             ` MADV_HUGEPAGE vs. NUMA semantic (was: Re: [LKP] " David Rientjes
2018-12-06 23:49                                               ` MADV_HUGEPAGE vs. NUMA semantic (was: " David Rientjes
2018-12-07  7:34                                               ` MADV_HUGEPAGE vs. NUMA semantic (was: Re: [LKP] " Michal Hocko
2018-12-07  7:34                                                 ` MADV_HUGEPAGE vs. NUMA semantic (was: " Michal Hocko
2018-12-07  4:31                                             ` MADV_HUGEPAGE vs. NUMA semantic (was: Re: [LKP] " Linus Torvalds
2018-12-07  4:31                                               ` MADV_HUGEPAGE vs. NUMA semantic (was: " Linus Torvalds
2018-12-07  7:49                                               ` MADV_HUGEPAGE vs. NUMA semantic (was: Re: [LKP] " Michal Hocko
2018-12-07  7:49                                                 ` MADV_HUGEPAGE vs. NUMA semantic (was: " Michal Hocko
2018-12-07  9:06                                                 ` MADV_HUGEPAGE vs. NUMA semantic (was: Re: [LKP] " Vlastimil Babka
2018-12-07  9:06                                                   ` MADV_HUGEPAGE vs. NUMA semantic (was: " Vlastimil Babka
2018-12-07 23:15                                                   ` MADV_HUGEPAGE vs. NUMA semantic (was: Re: [LKP] " David Rientjes
2018-12-07 23:15                                                     ` MADV_HUGEPAGE vs. NUMA semantic (was: " David Rientjes
2018-12-06 23:43                                           ` [LKP] [mm] ac5b2c1891: vm-scalability.throughput -61.3% regression David Rientjes
2018-12-06 23:43                                             ` David Rientjes
2018-12-07  4:01                                             ` [LKP] " Linus Torvalds
2018-12-07  4:01                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-10  0:29                                               ` [LKP] " David Rientjes
2018-12-10  0:29                                                 ` David Rientjes
2018-12-10  4:49                                                 ` [LKP] " Andrea Arcangeli
2018-12-10  4:49                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-12-12  0:37                                                   ` [LKP] " David Rientjes
2018-12-12  0:37                                                     ` David Rientjes
2018-12-12  9:50                                                     ` [LKP] " Michal Hocko
2018-12-12  9:50                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-12-12 17:00                                                       ` [LKP] " Andrea Arcangeli
2018-12-12 17:00                                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-12-14 11:32                                                         ` [LKP] " Michal Hocko
2018-12-14 11:32                                                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-12-12 10:14                                                     ` [LKP] " Vlastimil Babka
2018-12-12 10:14                                                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-12-14 21:04                                                       ` [LKP] " David Rientjes
2018-12-14 21:04                                                         ` David Rientjes
2018-12-14 21:33                                                         ` [LKP] " Vlastimil Babka
2018-12-14 21:33                                                           ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-12-21 22:18                                                           ` [LKP] " David Rientjes
2018-12-21 22:18                                                             ` David Rientjes
2018-12-21 22:18                                                             ` [LKP] " David Rientjes
2018-12-22 12:08                                                             ` Mel Gorman
2018-12-22 12:08                                                               ` Mel Gorman
2018-12-14 23:11                                                         ` [LKP] " Mel Gorman
2018-12-14 23:11                                                           ` Mel Gorman
2018-12-21 22:15                                                           ` [LKP] " David Rientjes
2018-12-21 22:15                                                             ` David Rientjes
2018-12-12 10:44                                                   ` [LKP] " Andrea Arcangeli
2018-12-12 10:44                                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2019-04-15 11:48                                             ` [LKP] " Michal Hocko
2019-04-15 11:48                                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-12-06  0:18                                       ` [LKP] " David Rientjes
2018-12-06  0:18                                         ` David Rientjes
2018-12-06  0:54                                         ` [LKP] " Andrea Arcangeli
2018-12-06  0:54                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2018-12-06  9:23                                           ` [LKP] " Vlastimil Babka
2018-12-06  9:23                                             ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-12-03 20:39                     ` [LKP] " David Rientjes
2018-12-03 20:39                       ` David Rientjes
2018-12-03 21:25                       ` [LKP] " Michal Hocko
2018-12-03 21:25                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-12-03 21:53                         ` [LKP] " David Rientjes
2018-12-03 21:53                           ` David Rientjes
2018-12-04  8:48                           ` [LKP] " Michal Hocko
2018-12-04  8:48                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-12-05  0:07                             ` [LKP] " David Rientjes
2018-12-05  0:07                               ` David Rientjes
2018-12-05 10:18                               ` [LKP] " Michal Hocko
2018-12-05 10:18                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-12-05 19:16                                 ` [LKP] " David Rientjes
2018-12-05 19:16                                   ` David Rientjes
2018-11-27  7:23 [LKP] " kernel test robot

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