* Question of Yocto dunfell LTS period [not found] <CGME20220114011350epcas2p16efb8acbdc4d9edceee83569e10cc359@epcas2p1.samsung.com> @ 2022-01-14 1:13 ` Chanho Park 2022-01-14 1:36 ` [OE-core] " Jate Sujjavanich 2022-01-14 7:14 ` AW: [yocto] " Matthias Klein 0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Chanho Park @ 2022-01-14 1:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: yocto, openembedded-core; +Cc: richard.purdie, steve Dear folks, I found the lts period of Yocto dunfell has been extended from 2022.04 to 2024.04[1]. AFAIK, a Yocto LTS version has 2 years period. I tried to find any notice regarding this but I just found Richard's e-mail[2] in last year. Can I find any thread or notice regarding this extension? [1]: https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Releases [2]: https://lore.kernel.org/yocto/3878e27fb895718b8c5d65f444fea443a56e0587.camel @linuxfoundation.org/ Best Regards, Chanho Park ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: [OE-core] Question of Yocto dunfell LTS period 2022-01-14 1:13 ` Question of Yocto dunfell LTS period Chanho Park @ 2022-01-14 1:36 ` Jate Sujjavanich 2022-01-14 5:28 ` [yocto] " Michael Opdenacker 2022-01-14 7:14 ` AW: [yocto] " Matthias Klein 1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Jate Sujjavanich @ 2022-01-14 1:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: chanho61.park; +Cc: openembedded-core, richard.purdie, steve, yocto [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1745 bytes --] I received the answer to this question in IRC on 10/29/2021. 16:06 <https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/yocto/2021-10-29#31083490> < jatedev> I saw a wiki edit that said dunfell's LTS period is now through April 2024, but I've seen no announcements. Any truth to this rumor? 16:20 <https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/yocto/2021-10-29#31083555> < smurray> jatedev: it was announced on one of the technical calls a few weeks back, so yes AFAIK 16:25 <https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/yocto/2021-10-29#31083577> <RP> jatedev: definitely true. I wish we could sort out the project advocacy side of things :( Let this email serve as a little advocacy. -Jate S. On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 8:14 PM Chanho Park via lists.openembedded.org <chanho61.park=samsung.com@lists.openembedded.org> wrote: > Dear folks, > > I found the lts period of Yocto dunfell has been extended from 2022.04 to > 2024.04[1]. > AFAIK, a Yocto LTS version has 2 years period. I tried to find any notice > regarding this but I just found Richard's e-mail[2] in last year. > Can I find any thread or notice regarding this extension? > > [1]: https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Releases > [2]: > > https://lore.kernel.org/yocto/3878e27fb895718b8c5d65f444fea443a56e0587.camel > @linuxfoundation.org/ > > Best Regards, > Chanho Park > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. > View/Reply Online (#160552): > https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/160552 > Mute This Topic: https://lists.openembedded.org/mt/88411698/3616919 > Group Owner: openembedded-core+owner@lists.openembedded.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/unsub [ > jatedev@gmail.com] > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 4744 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: [yocto] [OE-core] Question of Yocto dunfell LTS period 2022-01-14 1:36 ` [OE-core] " Jate Sujjavanich @ 2022-01-14 5:28 ` Michael Opdenacker 2022-01-14 9:42 ` Alexander Kanavin 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Michael Opdenacker @ 2022-01-14 5:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jate Sujjavanich, chanho61.park Cc: openembedded-core, richard.purdie, steve, yocto On 1/14/22 2:36 AM, Jate Sujjavanich wrote: > I received the answer to this question in IRC on 10/29/2021. > > 16:06 > <https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/yocto/2021-10-29#31083490> <jatedev> > I saw a wiki edit that said dunfell's LTS period is now through April > 2024, but I've seen no announcements. Any truth to this rumor? > 16:20 > <https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/yocto/2021-10-29#31083555> <smurray> > jatedev: it was announced on one of the technical calls a few weeks > back, so yes AFAIK > 16:25 > <https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/yocto/2021-10-29#31083577> <RP> > jatedev: definitely true. I wish we could sort out the project > advocacy side of things :( > > Let this email serve as a little advocacy. I believe this would also help if the website (releases page) and/or official documentation carried such information. Thanks for raising this concern! Cheers Michael. -- Michael Opdenacker, Bootlin Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering https://bootlin.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: [yocto] [OE-core] Question of Yocto dunfell LTS period 2022-01-14 5:28 ` [yocto] " Michael Opdenacker @ 2022-01-14 9:42 ` Alexander Kanavin 2022-01-14 12:41 ` Zoltan Boszormenyi 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Alexander Kanavin @ 2022-01-14 9:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Michael Opdenacker Cc: Jate Sujjavanich, chanho61.park, OE-core, Richard Purdie, Steve Sakoman, Yocto-mailing-list [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1859 bytes --] Actually, I think this was some kind of missed PR opportunity. Regular distros, such as RHEL, Debian and everyone else, are constantly trotting out their support windows as the reason to hand them the job of making products, so we could counter that better perhaps. Alex On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 at 06:28, Michael Opdenacker < michael.opdenacker@bootlin.com> wrote: > > On 1/14/22 2:36 AM, Jate Sujjavanich wrote: > > I received the answer to this question in IRC on 10/29/2021. > > > > 16:06 > > <https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/yocto/2021-10-29#31083490 > > <jatedev> > > I saw a wiki edit that said dunfell's LTS period is now through April > > 2024, but I've seen no announcements. Any truth to this rumor? > > 16:20 > > <https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/yocto/2021-10-29#31083555 > > <smurray> > > jatedev: it was announced on one of the technical calls a few weeks > > back, so yes AFAIK > > 16:25 > > <https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/yocto/2021-10-29#31083577> <RP> > > jatedev: definitely true. I wish we could sort out the project > > advocacy side of things :( > > > > Let this email serve as a little advocacy. > > > I believe this would also help if the website (releases page) and/or > official documentation carried such information. > Thanks for raising this concern! > Cheers > Michael. > > -- > Michael Opdenacker, Bootlin > Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering > https://bootlin.com > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. > View/Reply Online (#160557): > https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/160557 > Mute This Topic: https://lists.openembedded.org/mt/88415300/1686489 > Group Owner: openembedded-core+owner@lists.openembedded.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/unsub [ > alex.kanavin@gmail.com] > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 3261 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: [yocto] [OE-core] Question of Yocto dunfell LTS period 2022-01-14 9:42 ` Alexander Kanavin @ 2022-01-14 12:41 ` Zoltan Boszormenyi 2022-01-14 17:39 ` Ross Burton 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Zoltan Boszormenyi @ 2022-01-14 12:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Alexander Kanavin, Michael Opdenacker Cc: Jate Sujjavanich, chanho61.park, OE-core, Richard Purdie, Steve Sakoman, Yocto-mailing-list Funny you mention PR. It would also help if recipes staying on the same version but adding patches for e.g. CVE fixes should increase their PR value so their rebuilt versions can be put into a package repo. Throwing away the buildroot (as suggested any time some obscure build error happens) and restarting a complete image build resets the autopr value so the repo would contain packages with the same r0.0 release string and the package manager doesn't know that the package is newer. 2022. 01. 14. 10:42 keltezéssel, Alexander Kanavin írta: > Actually, I think this was some kind of missed PR opportunity. Regular distros, such as > RHEL, Debian and everyone else, are constantly trotting out their support windows as the > reason to hand them the job of making products, so we could counter that better perhaps. > > Alex > > On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 at 06:28, Michael Opdenacker <michael.opdenacker@bootlin.com > <mailto:michael.opdenacker@bootlin.com>> wrote: > > > On 1/14/22 2:36 AM, Jate Sujjavanich wrote: > > I received the answer to this question in IRC on 10/29/2021. > > > > 16:06 > > <https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/yocto/2021-10-29#31083490 > <https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/yocto/2021-10-29#31083490>> <jatedev> > > I saw a wiki edit that said dunfell's LTS period is now through April > > 2024, but I've seen no announcements. Any truth to this rumor? > > 16:20 > > <https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/yocto/2021-10-29#31083555 > <https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/yocto/2021-10-29#31083555>> <smurray> > > jatedev: it was announced on one of the technical calls a few weeks > > back, so yes AFAIK > > 16:25 > > <https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/yocto/2021-10-29#31083577 > <https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/yocto/2021-10-29#31083577>> <RP> > > jatedev: definitely true. I wish we could sort out the project > > advocacy side of things :( > > > > Let this email serve as a little advocacy. > > > I believe this would also help if the website (releases page) and/or > official documentation carried such information. > Thanks for raising this concern! > Cheers > Michael. > > -- > Michael Opdenacker, Bootlin > Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering > https://bootlin.com <https://bootlin.com> > > > > > > > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: [yocto] [OE-core] Question of Yocto dunfell LTS period 2022-01-14 12:41 ` Zoltan Boszormenyi @ 2022-01-14 17:39 ` Ross Burton 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Ross Burton @ 2022-01-14 17:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: zboszor Cc: Alexander Kanavin, Michael Opdenacker, Jate Sujjavanich, chanho61.park, OE-core, Richard Purdie, Steve Sakoman, Yocto-mailing-list On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 at 12:41, Zoltan Boszormenyi via lists.yoctoproject.org <zboszor=pr.hu@lists.yoctoproject.org> wrote: > It would also help if recipes staying on the same version > but adding patches for e.g. CVE fixes should increase their > PR value so their rebuilt versions can be put into a package repo. > > Throwing away the buildroot (as suggested any time some obscure > build error happens) and restarting a complete image build > resets the autopr value so the repo would contain packages with > the same r0.0 release string and the package manager doesn't know > that the package is newer. If you want persistent PRs between builds after deleting the build tree, simply archive the PR database. We're not going back to manually updating the PR on changes. Ross ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* AW: [yocto] Question of Yocto dunfell LTS period 2022-01-14 1:13 ` Question of Yocto dunfell LTS period Chanho Park 2022-01-14 1:36 ` [OE-core] " Jate Sujjavanich @ 2022-01-14 7:14 ` Matthias Klein 2022-01-14 13:04 ` Richard Purdie 1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Matthias Klein @ 2022-01-14 7:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: chanho61.park, yocto, openembedded-core; +Cc: richard.purdie, steve Hello together, I would like to add a question to the topic: Why was the LTS period for dunfell extended? Can we expect the same for kirstone? Many greetings, Matthias -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: yocto@lists.yoctoproject.org <yocto@lists.yoctoproject.org> Im Auftrag von Chanho Park via lists.yoctoproject.org Gesendet: Freitag, 14. Januar 2022 02:14 An: yocto@lists.yoctoproject.org; openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org Cc: richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org; steve@sakoman.com Betreff: [yocto] Question of Yocto dunfell LTS period Dear folks, I found the lts period of Yocto dunfell has been extended from 2022.04 to 2024.04[1]. AFAIK, a Yocto LTS version has 2 years period. I tried to find any notice regarding this but I just found Richard's e-mail[2] in last year. Can I find any thread or notice regarding this extension? [1]: https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Releases [2]: https://lore.kernel.org/yocto/3878e27fb895718b8c5d65f444fea443a56e0587.camel @linuxfoundation.org/ Best Regards, Chanho Park ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: AW: [yocto] Question of Yocto dunfell LTS period 2022-01-14 7:14 ` AW: [yocto] " Matthias Klein @ 2022-01-14 13:04 ` Richard Purdie 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Richard Purdie @ 2022-01-14 13:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Matthias Klein, chanho61.park, yocto, openembedded-core; +Cc: steve On Fri, 2022-01-14 at 07:14 +0000, Matthias Klein wrote: > Hello together, > > I would like to add a question to the topic: > > Why was the LTS period for dunfell extended? > Can we expect the same for kirstone? The project members agreed to fun an extension to the lifetime of dunfell from 2 years to 4 years. There should have been some announcements about this but we lack people on the advocacy side of the project with time to make that happen. That saddens me a lot and I think it is a missed opportunity but there isn't much I can do about it beyond what I've already tried. Extending Dunfell is an experiment so we would base a decision on how well the dunfell extension is working out. Extending an LTS like this requires a financial commitment from the project. At this point in time the project cannot commit to extending kirkstone as we can't guarantee the finances. Cheers, Richard ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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