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From: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
To: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>,
	casey.schaufler@intel.com, jmorris@namei.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, selinux@vger.kernel.org
Cc: keescook@chromium.org, john.johansen@canonical.com,
	penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp, paul@paul-moore.com,
	sds@tycho.nsa.gov,
	"linux-audit@redhat.com" <linux-audit@redhat.com>,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 26/25] Audit: Multiple LSM support in audit rules
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 11:40:13 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e6945c33-a540-9d0a-ba71-3602b8e38154@schaufler-ca.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1578587607.5147.63.camel@linux.ibm.com>

On 1/9/2020 8:33 AM, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> Hi Casey,
>
> On Fri, 2020-01-03 at 10:53 -0800, Casey Schaufler wrote:
>> With multiple possible security modules supporting audit rule
>> it is necessary to keep separate data for each module in the
>> audit rules. This affects IMA as well, as it re-uses the audit
>> rule list mechanisms.
> While reviewing this patch, I realized there was a bug in the base IMA
> code.  With Janne's bug fix, that he just posted, I think this patch
> can now be simplified.

How and when do you plan to get Janne's fix in? It's looking like
stacking won't be in for 5.6.

> My main concern is the number of warning messages that will be
> generated.  Any time a new LSM policy is loaded, the labels will be
> re-evaulated whether or not they are applicable to the particular LSM,
> causing unnecessary warnings.

Uhg. 

>
> Mimi
>

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
To: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>,
	casey.schaufler@intel.com, jmorris@namei.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, selinux@vger.kernel.org
Cc: john.johansen@canonical.com,
	"linux-audit@redhat.com" <linux-audit@redhat.com>,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, sds@tycho.nsa.gov
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 26/25] Audit: Multiple LSM support in audit rules
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 11:40:13 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e6945c33-a540-9d0a-ba71-3602b8e38154@schaufler-ca.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1578587607.5147.63.camel@linux.ibm.com>

On 1/9/2020 8:33 AM, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> Hi Casey,
>
> On Fri, 2020-01-03 at 10:53 -0800, Casey Schaufler wrote:
>> With multiple possible security modules supporting audit rule
>> it is necessary to keep separate data for each module in the
>> audit rules. This affects IMA as well, as it re-uses the audit
>> rule list mechanisms.
> While reviewing this patch, I realized there was a bug in the base IMA
> code.  With Janne's bug fix, that he just posted, I think this patch
> can now be simplified.

How and when do you plan to get Janne's fix in? It's looking like
stacking won't be in for 5.6.

> My main concern is the number of warning messages that will be
> generated.  Any time a new LSM policy is loaded, the labels will be
> re-evaulated whether or not they are applicable to the particular LSM,
> causing unnecessary warnings.

Uhg. 

>
> Mimi
>


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Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20191224235939.7483-1-casey.ref@schaufler-ca.com>
2019-12-24 23:59 ` [PATCH v13 00/25] LSM: Module stacking for AppArmor Casey Schaufler
2019-12-24 23:59   ` [PATCH v13 01/25] LSM: Infrastructure management of the sock security Casey Schaufler
2019-12-24 23:59   ` [PATCH v13 02/25] LSM: Create and manage the lsmblob data structure Casey Schaufler
2019-12-25 20:34     ` Mickaël Salaün
2019-12-24 23:59   ` [PATCH v13 03/25] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_audit_rule_match Casey Schaufler
2019-12-31 13:13     ` Mimi Zohar
2020-01-02 23:36       ` Casey Schaufler
2019-12-24 23:59   ` [PATCH v13 04/25] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_kernel_act_as Casey Schaufler
2019-12-24 23:59   ` [PATCH v13 05/25] net: Prepare UDS for security module stacking Casey Schaufler
2019-12-24 23:59   ` [PATCH v13 06/25] Use lsmblob in security_secctx_to_secid Casey Schaufler
2020-01-07 17:45     ` Stephen Smalley
2019-12-24 23:59   ` [PATCH v13 07/25] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_secid_to_secctx Casey Schaufler
2019-12-24 23:59   ` [PATCH v13 08/25] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_ipc_getsecid Casey Schaufler
2019-12-24 23:59   ` [PATCH v13 09/25] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_task_getsecid Casey Schaufler
2020-01-07 17:53     ` Stephen Smalley
2019-12-24 23:59   ` [PATCH v13 10/25] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_inode_getsecid Casey Schaufler
2019-12-24 23:59   ` [PATCH v13 11/25] LSM: Use lsmblob in security_cred_getsecid Casey Schaufler
2019-12-24 23:59   ` [PATCH v13 12/25] IMA: Change internal interfaces to use lsmblobs Casey Schaufler
2019-12-24 23:59   ` [PATCH v13 13/25] LSM: Specify which LSM to display Casey Schaufler
2020-01-07 19:02     ` Stephen Smalley
2019-12-24 23:59   ` [PATCH v13 14/25] LSM: Ensure the correct LSM context releaser Casey Schaufler
2020-01-07 19:16     ` Stephen Smalley
2019-12-24 23:59   ` [PATCH v13 15/25] LSM: Use lsmcontext in security_secid_to_secctx Casey Schaufler
2020-01-06 16:15     ` Stephen Smalley
2019-12-24 23:59   ` [PATCH v13 16/25] LSM: Use lsmcontext in security_dentry_init_security Casey Schaufler
2020-01-07 19:23     ` Stephen Smalley
2019-12-24 23:59   ` [PATCH v13 17/25] LSM: Use lsmcontext in security_inode_getsecctx Casey Schaufler
2019-12-24 23:59   ` [PATCH v13 18/25] LSM: security_secid_to_secctx in netlink netfilter Casey Schaufler
2019-12-24 23:59   ` [PATCH v13 19/25] NET: Store LSM netlabel data in a lsmblob Casey Schaufler
2020-01-07 19:25     ` Stephen Smalley
2020-01-07 21:58       ` Casey Schaufler
2020-01-09 14:34     ` Stephen Smalley
2019-12-24 23:59   ` [PATCH v13 20/25] LSM: Verify LSM display sanity in binder Casey Schaufler
2019-12-24 23:59   ` [PATCH v13 21/25] Audit: Add subj_LSM fields when necessary Casey Schaufler
2019-12-24 23:59   ` [PATCH v13 22/25] Audit: Include object data for all security modules Casey Schaufler
2019-12-24 23:59   ` [PATCH v13 23/25] NET: Add SO_PEERCONTEXT for multiple LSMs Casey Schaufler
2020-01-06 17:15     ` Stephen Smalley
2020-01-06 17:29       ` Simon McVittie
2020-01-06 18:03         ` Casey Schaufler
2020-01-06 18:45           ` Stephen Smalley
2020-01-06 18:43         ` Stephen Smalley
2019-12-24 23:59   ` [PATCH 24/25] LSM: Add /proc attr entry for full LSM context Casey Schaufler
2020-01-06 16:22     ` Stephen Smalley
2019-12-24 23:59   ` [PATCH v13 25/25] AppArmor: Remove the exclusive flag Casey Schaufler
2020-01-03 18:53   ` [PATCH v13 26/25] Audit: Multiple LSM support in audit rules Casey Schaufler
2020-01-03 18:53     ` Casey Schaufler
2020-01-09 16:33     ` Mimi Zohar
2020-01-10 19:40       ` Casey Schaufler [this message]
2020-01-10 19:40         ` Casey Schaufler
2020-01-12 15:37         ` Mimi Zohar

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