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From: Jonathan Cameron <jic23-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Gregor Boirie
	<gregor.boirie-ITF29qwbsa/QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-iio-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-iio-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Sebastian Reichel <sre-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Samu Onkalo <samu.onkalo-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] iio: document bindings for mounting matrixes
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 18:24:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ec3fb3a4-1f8e-1eae-e4b7-42f8eb16fe25@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACRpkda-Mz0wOAXx4uoZ43OCVw0U_E0+iCrboUO_7keYV2scBw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On 25/08/16 23:04, Linus Walleij wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 11:29 PM, Jonathan Cameron <jic23-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> Gregor:
>>> So I feel like we should keep away from any temptation to define the coordinates
>>> system too strictly.
>>> I also think of systems composed of multiple hardware parts with sensors
>>> scattered all over them. What would be the right "device/main hardware" reference
>>> frame definition in these cases ?
>>> As this is product specific, I feel like "device/main hardware" reference frame
>>> definition should be left to the "board/main hardware/device..." implementor's
>>> choice.
>>
>> Flexible is good, but I think we should define a base rule for the chips frame
>> of reference and fix up any that disagree (which is nasty ABI breakage :(
>> Trivial choice of either right handed or left handed frame might be all we
>> define in general.  Useful to define consistent frames for device types that
>> are common perhaps as well.  (such as the screen ones Linus has here).
> 
> Admittedly I come from the mobile phone industry.
> 
> So these frames of reference is not cooked up by me, I installed the
> Android app "Sensors test" to test two devices relative the world, so this
> is the frame of reference used by all mobile phones and tablets on the
> planet (I hardly think iPhone deviates).
> 
> I would be happy to write explicitly that for human interaction devices
> with screens that frame of reference should always be assumed, but for
> other uses and device types other frames of reference may apply, would
> you agree?
Absolutely.  The references Gregor gave might also be worth mentioning
as they provide pretty pictures etc ;)

Jonathan
> 
> Yours,
> Linus Walleij
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From: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>
To: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
Cc: Gregor Boirie <gregor.boirie@parrot.com>,
	"linux-iio@vger.kernel.org" <linux-iio@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sebastian Reichel <sre@kernel.org>,
	Samu Onkalo <samu.onkalo@intel.com>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] iio: document bindings for mounting matrixes
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 18:24:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ec3fb3a4-1f8e-1eae-e4b7-42f8eb16fe25@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACRpkda-Mz0wOAXx4uoZ43OCVw0U_E0+iCrboUO_7keYV2scBw@mail.gmail.com>

On 25/08/16 23:04, Linus Walleij wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 11:29 PM, Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org> wrote:
>> Gregor:
>>> So I feel like we should keep away from any temptation to define the coordinates
>>> system too strictly.
>>> I also think of systems composed of multiple hardware parts with sensors
>>> scattered all over them. What would be the right "device/main hardware" reference
>>> frame definition in these cases ?
>>> As this is product specific, I feel like "device/main hardware" reference frame
>>> definition should be left to the "board/main hardware/device..." implementor's
>>> choice.
>>
>> Flexible is good, but I think we should define a base rule for the chips frame
>> of reference and fix up any that disagree (which is nasty ABI breakage :(
>> Trivial choice of either right handed or left handed frame might be all we
>> define in general.  Useful to define consistent frames for device types that
>> are common perhaps as well.  (such as the screen ones Linus has here).
> 
> Admittedly I come from the mobile phone industry.
> 
> So these frames of reference is not cooked up by me, I installed the
> Android app "Sensors test" to test two devices relative the world, so this
> is the frame of reference used by all mobile phones and tablets on the
> planet (I hardly think iPhone deviates).
> 
> I would be happy to write explicitly that for human interaction devices
> with screens that frame of reference should always be assumed, but for
> other uses and device types other frames of reference may apply, would
> you agree?
Absolutely.  The references Gregor gave might also be worth mentioning
as they provide pretty pictures etc ;)

Jonathan
> 
> Yours,
> Linus Walleij
> --
> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-iio" in
> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
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> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-08-29 17:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-24 10:17 [PATCH] iio: document bindings for mounting matrixes Linus Walleij
2016-07-24 10:17 ` Linus Walleij
     [not found] ` <1469355434-17043-1-git-send-email-linus.walleij-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-24 19:03   ` Jonathan Cameron
2016-07-24 19:03     ` Jonathan Cameron
     [not found]     ` <06168d06-b609-a0ec-945e-aa36a4dbe795-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-25  8:42       ` Linus Walleij
2016-07-25  8:42         ` Linus Walleij
2016-07-25 12:48       ` Gregor Boirie
2016-07-25 12:48         ` Gregor Boirie
     [not found]         ` <57960AAF.1060103-ITF29qwbsa/QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-25 13:57           ` Linus Walleij
2016-07-25 13:57             ` Linus Walleij
2016-07-26 19:07   ` Rob Herring
2016-07-26 19:07     ` Rob Herring
2016-07-26 21:01     ` Jonathan Cameron
2016-07-26 21:01       ` Jonathan Cameron
2016-08-11 11:33   ` Linus Walleij
2016-08-11 11:33     ` Linus Walleij
     [not found]     ` <CACRpkdY0gCLKD3rmiYuFgWSYOe6dtUaBeRi1ns-UFF=AspntFg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-15 14:58       ` Jonathan Cameron
2016-08-15 14:58         ` Jonathan Cameron
     [not found]         ` <c8e83cf2-f9dc-0bc9-fcde-326b05ee290b-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-15 18:47           ` Linus Walleij
2016-08-15 18:47             ` Linus Walleij
2016-08-24 13:18           ` Gregor Boirie
2016-08-24 13:18             ` Gregor Boirie
     [not found]             ` <57BD9EB6.1090504-ITF29qwbsa/QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-24 21:29               ` Jonathan Cameron
2016-08-24 21:29                 ` Jonathan Cameron
     [not found]                 ` <067a4882-c6f2-5994-e3ce-100e317ed121-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-25 12:28                   ` Gregor Boirie
2016-08-25 12:28                     ` Gregor Boirie
2016-08-25 22:04                   ` Linus Walleij
2016-08-25 22:04                     ` Linus Walleij
     [not found]                     ` <CACRpkda-Mz0wOAXx4uoZ43OCVw0U_E0+iCrboUO_7keYV2scBw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-29 17:24                       ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
2016-08-29 17:24                         ` Jonathan Cameron
2016-08-21 15:56   ` Jonathan Cameron
2016-08-21 15:56     ` Jonathan Cameron
     [not found]     ` <ab89a386-dfca-bbc3-3dec-613d32d374a5-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-25 21:56       ` Linus Walleij
2016-08-25 21:56         ` Linus Walleij
     [not found]         ` <CACRpkdbA=qZO9M=nc2mUK7Sg5ZdOzcH=x0kUQ004_+uVTQ8tCA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-29 17:31           ` Jonathan Cameron
2016-08-29 17:31             ` Jonathan Cameron

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