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From: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Dmitry Osipenko <digetx-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Thierry Reding"
	<thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Jonathan Hunter"
	<jonathanh-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"Peter De Schrijver"
	<pdeschrijver-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw-LthD3rsA81gm4RdzfppkhA@public.gmane.org>,
	"Michał Mirosław"
	<mirq-linux-CoA6ZxLDdyEEUmgCuDUIdw@public.gmane.org>,
	"Jasper Korten" <jja2000-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"David Heidelberg" <david-W22tF5X+A20@public.gmane.org>,
	"Peter Geis" <pgwipeout-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-pm-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-tegra-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 09/17] arm: tegra20: cpuidle: Handle case where secondary CPU hangs on entering LP2
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 22:11:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f27e7974-f102-f9dc-6b48-9814b88465bf@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c13aa8f9-092b-55ca-742e-17db0184649b-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>

On 21/02/2020 21:54, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
> 21.02.2020 23:48, Daniel Lezcano пишет:
>> On 21/02/2020 21:21, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
>>> 21.02.2020 23:02, Daniel Lezcano пишет:
>>
>> [ ... ]
>>
>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>> +		/*
>>>>>>>>> +		 * The primary CPU0 core shall wait for the secondaries
>>>>>>>>> +		 * shutdown in order to power-off CPU's cluster safely.
>>>>>>>>> +		 * The timeout value depends on the current CPU frequency,
>>>>>>>>> +		 * it takes about 40-150us  in average and over 1000us in
>>>>>>>>> +		 * a worst case scenario.
>>>>>>>>> +		 */
>>>>>>>>> +		do {
>>>>>>>>> +			if (tegra_cpu_rail_off_ready())
>>>>>>>>> +				return 0;
>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>> +		} while (ktime_before(ktime_get(), timeout));
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So this loop will aggresively call tegra_cpu_rail_off_ready() and retry 3
>>>>>>>> times. The tegra_cpu_rail_off_ready() function can be called thoushand of times
>>>>>>>> here but the function will hang 1.5s :/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I suggest something like:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 	while (retries--i && !tegra_cpu_rail_off_ready()) 
>>>>>>>> 		udelay(100);
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So <retries> calls to tegra_cpu_rail_off_ready() and 100us x <retries> maximum
>>>>>>>> impact.
>>>>>>> But udelay() also results into CPU spinning in a busy-loop, and thus,
>>>>>>> what's the difference?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> busy looping instead of register reads with all the hardware things involved behind.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please notice that this code runs only on an older Cortex-A9/A15, which
>>>>> doesn't support WFE for the delaying, and thus, CPU always busy-loops
>>>>> inside udelay().
>>>>>
>>>>> What about if I'll add cpu_relax() to the loop? Do you think it it could
>>>>> have any positive effect?
>>>>
>>>> I think udelay() has a call to cpu_relax().
>>>
>>> Yes, my point is that udelay() doesn't bring much benefit for us here
>>> because:
>>>
>>> 1. we want to enter into power-gated state as quick as possible and
>>> udelay() just adds an unnecessary delay
>>>
>>> 2. udelay() spins in a busy-loop until delay is expired, just like we're
>>> doing it in this function already
>>
>> In this case why not remove ktime_get() and increase the number of retries?
> 
> Because the busy-loop performance depends on CPU's frequency, so we
> can't rely on a bare number of the retries.

Why not if computed in the worst case scenario?

Anyway, I'll let you give a try.

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From: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
To: Dmitry Osipenko <digetx@gmail.com>
Cc: "Thierry Reding" <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	"Jonathan Hunter" <jonathanh@nvidia.com>,
	"Peter De Schrijver" <pdeschrijver@nvidia.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"Michał Mirosław" <mirq-linux@rere.qmqm.pl>,
	"Jasper Korten" <jja2000@gmail.com>,
	"David Heidelberg" <david@ixit.cz>,
	"Peter Geis" <pgwipeout@gmail.com>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 09/17] arm: tegra20: cpuidle: Handle case where secondary CPU hangs on entering LP2
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 22:11:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f27e7974-f102-f9dc-6b48-9814b88465bf@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c13aa8f9-092b-55ca-742e-17db0184649b@gmail.com>

On 21/02/2020 21:54, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
> 21.02.2020 23:48, Daniel Lezcano пишет:
>> On 21/02/2020 21:21, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
>>> 21.02.2020 23:02, Daniel Lezcano пишет:
>>
>> [ ... ]
>>
>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>> +		/*
>>>>>>>>> +		 * The primary CPU0 core shall wait for the secondaries
>>>>>>>>> +		 * shutdown in order to power-off CPU's cluster safely.
>>>>>>>>> +		 * The timeout value depends on the current CPU frequency,
>>>>>>>>> +		 * it takes about 40-150us  in average and over 1000us in
>>>>>>>>> +		 * a worst case scenario.
>>>>>>>>> +		 */
>>>>>>>>> +		do {
>>>>>>>>> +			if (tegra_cpu_rail_off_ready())
>>>>>>>>> +				return 0;
>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>> +		} while (ktime_before(ktime_get(), timeout));
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So this loop will aggresively call tegra_cpu_rail_off_ready() and retry 3
>>>>>>>> times. The tegra_cpu_rail_off_ready() function can be called thoushand of times
>>>>>>>> here but the function will hang 1.5s :/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I suggest something like:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 	while (retries--i && !tegra_cpu_rail_off_ready()) 
>>>>>>>> 		udelay(100);
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So <retries> calls to tegra_cpu_rail_off_ready() and 100us x <retries> maximum
>>>>>>>> impact.
>>>>>>> But udelay() also results into CPU spinning in a busy-loop, and thus,
>>>>>>> what's the difference?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> busy looping instead of register reads with all the hardware things involved behind.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please notice that this code runs only on an older Cortex-A9/A15, which
>>>>> doesn't support WFE for the delaying, and thus, CPU always busy-loops
>>>>> inside udelay().
>>>>>
>>>>> What about if I'll add cpu_relax() to the loop? Do you think it it could
>>>>> have any positive effect?
>>>>
>>>> I think udelay() has a call to cpu_relax().
>>>
>>> Yes, my point is that udelay() doesn't bring much benefit for us here
>>> because:
>>>
>>> 1. we want to enter into power-gated state as quick as possible and
>>> udelay() just adds an unnecessary delay
>>>
>>> 2. udelay() spins in a busy-loop until delay is expired, just like we're
>>> doing it in this function already
>>
>> In this case why not remove ktime_get() and increase the number of retries?
> 
> Because the busy-loop performance depends on CPU's frequency, so we
> can't rely on a bare number of the retries.

Why not if computed in the worst case scenario?

Anyway, I'll let you give a try.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-02-21 21:11 UTC|newest]

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2020-02-12 23:51 [PATCH v9 00/17] Consolidate and improve NVIDIA Tegra CPUIDLE driver(s) Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-12 23:51 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-12 23:51 ` [PATCH v9 02/17] ARM: tegra: Add tegra_pm_park_secondary_cpu() Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-12 23:51 ` [PATCH v9 06/17] ARM: tegra: Expose PM functions required for new cpuidle driver Dmitry Osipenko
     [not found]   ` <20200212235134.12638-7-digetx-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-02-21 15:18     ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-21 15:18       ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found] ` <20200212235134.12638-1-digetx-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-02-12 23:51   ` [PATCH v9 01/17] ARM: tegra: Compile sleep-tegra20/30.S unconditionally Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-12 23:51     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-12 23:51   ` [PATCH v9 03/17] ARM: tegra: Remove pen-locking from cpuidle-tegra20 Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-12 23:51     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 14:58     ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-12 23:51   ` [PATCH v9 04/17] ARM: tegra: Change tegra_set_cpu_in_lp2() type to void Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-12 23:51     ` Dmitry Osipenko
     [not found]     ` <20200212235134.12638-5-digetx-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-02-21 15:04       ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-21 15:04         ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-12 23:51   ` [PATCH v9 05/17] ARM: tegra: Propagate error from tegra_idle_lp2_last() Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-12 23:51     ` Dmitry Osipenko
     [not found]     ` <20200212235134.12638-6-digetx-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-02-21 15:16       ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-21 15:16         ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]         ` <20200221151612.GJ10516-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2020-02-21 17:21           ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 17:21             ` Dmitry Osipenko
     [not found]             ` <1a8c81ab-6f6a-8221-6a4e-c080ba595836-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-02-21 17:40               ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-21 17:40                 ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]                 ` <20200221174033.GV10516-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2020-02-21 18:42                   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 18:42                     ` Dmitry Osipenko
     [not found]                     ` <535bff1a-cb38-a36e-4c8e-1e656618588e-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-02-21 19:16                       ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-21 19:16                         ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-12 23:51   ` [PATCH v9 07/17] ARM: tegra: Rename some of the newly exposed PM functions Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-12 23:51     ` Dmitry Osipenko
     [not found]     ` <20200212235134.12638-8-digetx-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-02-21 15:19       ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-21 15:19         ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-12 23:51   ` [PATCH v9 10/17] arm: tegra20: cpuidle: Make abort_flag atomic Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-12 23:51     ` Dmitry Osipenko
     [not found]     ` <20200212235134.12638-11-digetx-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-02-21 15:25       ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-21 15:25         ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-12 23:51   ` [PATCH v9 11/17] arm: tegra20/30: cpuidle: Remove unnecessary memory barrier Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-12 23:51     ` Dmitry Osipenko
     [not found]     ` <20200212235134.12638-12-digetx-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-02-21 15:25       ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-21 15:25         ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-12 23:51   ` [PATCH v9 13/17] cpuidle: tegra: Squash Tegra30 driver into the common driver Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-12 23:51     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 16:29     ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-21 16:59       ` Dmitry Osipenko
     [not found]         ` <89a9838c-faf3-b890-cea2-aad53df1eac3-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-02-21 17:41           ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-21 17:41             ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]             ` <20200221174128.GW10516-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2020-02-21 18:20               ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 18:20                 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-12 23:51   ` [PATCH v9 16/17] ARM: multi_v7_defconfig: Enable Tegra cpuidle driver Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-12 23:51     ` Dmitry Osipenko
     [not found]     ` <20200212235134.12638-17-digetx-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-02-21 16:30       ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-21 16:30         ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-12 23:51   ` [PATCH v9 17/17] ARM: tegra: Enable Tegra cpuidle driver in tegra_defconfig Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-12 23:51     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 16:31     ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-13  0:38   ` [PATCH v9 00/17] Consolidate and improve NVIDIA Tegra CPUIDLE driver(s) Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-13  0:38     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-18 14:56   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-18 14:56     ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-12 23:51 ` [PATCH v9 08/17] ARM: tegra: Make outer_disable() open-coded Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-12 23:51 ` [PATCH v9 09/17] arm: tegra20: cpuidle: Handle case where secondary CPU hangs on entering LP2 Dmitry Osipenko
     [not found]   ` <20200212235134.12638-10-digetx-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-02-21 14:55     ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-21 14:55       ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-21 15:43     ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-21 15:43       ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]       ` <20200221154318.GO10516-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2020-02-21 16:56         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 16:56           ` Dmitry Osipenko
     [not found]           ` <239a2b66-8da8-2e6c-d19d-9ed207ad0a64-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-02-21 17:36             ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-21 17:36               ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]               ` <20200221173649.GU10516-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2020-02-21 18:19                 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 18:19                   ` Dmitry Osipenko
     [not found]                   ` <b51f3f6b-8287-5ce8-fcaa-77cbab507618-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-02-21 20:02                     ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-21 20:02                       ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]                       ` <f27481cf-ca5e-df47-932b-fcb4713f0d78-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2020-02-21 20:21                         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 20:21                           ` Dmitry Osipenko
     [not found]                           ` <50a8fb7c-f497-2234-c0b0-560aec1c5691-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-02-21 20:42                             ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 20:42                               ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 20:48                             ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-21 20:48                               ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]                               ` <21e3cc35-cc6b-5452-da93-bdaac43716c5-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2020-02-21 20:54                                 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-21 20:54                                   ` Dmitry Osipenko
     [not found]                                   ` <c13aa8f9-092b-55ca-742e-17db0184649b-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-02-21 21:11                                     ` Daniel Lezcano [this message]
2020-02-21 21:11                                       ` Daniel Lezcano
     [not found]                                       ` <f27e7974-f102-f9dc-6b48-9814b88465bf-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2020-02-24 15:12                                         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-24 15:12                                           ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-12 23:51 ` [PATCH v9 12/17] cpuidle: Refactor and move out NVIDIA Tegra20 driver into drivers/cpuidle Dmitry Osipenko
     [not found]   ` <20200212235134.12638-13-digetx-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-02-21 15:44     ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-21 15:44       ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-12 23:51 ` [PATCH v9 14/17] cpuidle: tegra: Squash Tegra114 driver into the common driver Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-12 23:51 ` [PATCH v9 15/17] cpuidle: tegra: Disable CC6 state if LP2 unavailable Dmitry Osipenko
     [not found]   ` <20200212235134.12638-16-digetx-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-02-21 16:39     ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-21 16:39       ` Daniel Lezcano
2020-02-24 16:44 ` [PATCH v9 00/17] Consolidate and improve NVIDIA Tegra CPUIDLE driver(s) Dmitry Osipenko
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2019-12-18 21:04 Dmitry Osipenko
2019-12-18 21:04 ` [PATCH v9 09/17] arm: tegra20: cpuidle: Handle case where secondary CPU hangs on entering LP2 Dmitry Osipenko

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