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From: Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@collabora.com>
To: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil-cisco@xs4all.nl>,
	Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard@collabora.com>,
	p.zabel@pengutronix.de, mchehab@kernel.org, robh+dt@kernel.org,
	shawnguo@kernel.org, s.hauer@pengutronix.de, festevam@gmail.com,
	lee.jones@linaro.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	mripard@kernel.org, paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com, wens@csie.org,
	jernej.skrabec@siol.net, emil.l.velikov@gmail.com
Cc: kernel@pengutronix.de, linux-imx@nxp.com,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devel@driverdev.osuosl.org,
	kernel@collabora.com, cphealy@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 6/9] media: uapi: Add a control for HANTRO driver
Date: Wed, 05 May 2021 18:01:25 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f5d194db2bb70237c8b3b5072daac2d7ad404b84.camel@collabora.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a7c9fe23-2900-ac90-7131-21380fbfc793@xs4all.nl>

On Wed, 2021-05-05 at 16:55 +0200, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> On 20/04/2021 14:10, Benjamin Gaignard wrote:
> > The HEVC HANTRO driver needs to know the number of bits to skip at
> > the beginning of the slice header.
> > That is a hardware specific requirement so create a dedicated control
> > for this purpose.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard@collabora.com>
> > ---
> >  .../userspace-api/media/drivers/hantro.rst    | 19 +++++++++++++++++++
> >  .../userspace-api/media/drivers/index.rst     |  1 +
> >  include/media/hevc-ctrls.h                    | 13 +++++++++++++
> >  3 files changed, 33 insertions(+)
> >  create mode 100644 Documentation/userspace-api/media/drivers/hantro.rst
> > 
> > diff --git a/Documentation/userspace-api/media/drivers/hantro.rst b/Documentation/userspace-api/media/drivers/hantro.rst
> > new file mode 100644
> > index 000000000000..cd9754b4e005
> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ b/Documentation/userspace-api/media/drivers/hantro.rst
> > @@ -0,0 +1,19 @@
> > +.. SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
> > +
> > +Hantro video decoder driver
> > +===========================
> > +
> > +The Hantro video decoder driver implements the following driver-specific controls:
> > +
> > +``V4L2_CID_HANTRO_HEVC_SLICE_HEADER_SKIP (integer)``
> > +    Specifies to Hantro HEVC video decoder driver the number of data (in bits) to
> > +    skip in the slice segment header.
> > +    If non-IDR, the bits to be skipped go from syntax element "pic_output_flag"
> > +    to before syntax element "slice_temporal_mvp_enabled_flag".
> > +    If IDR, the skipped bits are just "pic_output_flag"
> > +    (separate_colour_plane_flag is not supported).
> 
> I'm not very keen on this. Without this information the video data cannot be
> decoded, or will it just be suboptimal?
> 
> The problem is that a generic decoder would have to know that the HW is a hantro,

Applications can just query which controls are exposed by a video device,
and if this control is found, then it means it needs to be set.

> and then call this control. If they don't (and are testing on non-hantro HW), then
> it won't work, thus defeating the purpose of the HW independent decoder API.
> 
> Since hantro is widely used, and if there is no other way to do this beside explitely
> setting this control, then perhaps this should be part of the standard HEVC API.
> Non-hantro drivers that do not need this can just skip it.
> 

The decision to move it out of the HEVC API is not really to avoid setting it.
In the end, most/all applications will end up required to set this 


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From: Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@collabora.com>
To: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil-cisco@xs4all.nl>,
	Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard@collabora.com>,
	p.zabel@pengutronix.de, mchehab@kernel.org,  robh+dt@kernel.org,
	shawnguo@kernel.org, s.hauer@pengutronix.de,  festevam@gmail.com,
	lee.jones@linaro.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	 mripard@kernel.org, paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com,
	wens@csie.org,  jernej.skrabec@siol.net,
	emil.l.velikov@gmail.com
Cc: devel@driverdev.osuosl.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-imx@nxp.com, kernel@pengutronix.de, kernel@collabora.com,
	cphealy@gmail.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 6/9] media: uapi: Add a control for HANTRO driver
Date: Wed, 05 May 2021 18:01:25 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f5d194db2bb70237c8b3b5072daac2d7ad404b84.camel@collabora.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a7c9fe23-2900-ac90-7131-21380fbfc793@xs4all.nl>

On Wed, 2021-05-05 at 16:55 +0200, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> On 20/04/2021 14:10, Benjamin Gaignard wrote:
> > The HEVC HANTRO driver needs to know the number of bits to skip at
> > the beginning of the slice header.
> > That is a hardware specific requirement so create a dedicated control
> > for this purpose.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard@collabora.com>
> > ---
> >  .../userspace-api/media/drivers/hantro.rst    | 19 +++++++++++++++++++
> >  .../userspace-api/media/drivers/index.rst     |  1 +
> >  include/media/hevc-ctrls.h                    | 13 +++++++++++++
> >  3 files changed, 33 insertions(+)
> >  create mode 100644 Documentation/userspace-api/media/drivers/hantro.rst
> > 
> > diff --git a/Documentation/userspace-api/media/drivers/hantro.rst b/Documentation/userspace-api/media/drivers/hantro.rst
> > new file mode 100644
> > index 000000000000..cd9754b4e005
> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ b/Documentation/userspace-api/media/drivers/hantro.rst
> > @@ -0,0 +1,19 @@
> > +.. SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
> > +
> > +Hantro video decoder driver
> > +===========================
> > +
> > +The Hantro video decoder driver implements the following driver-specific controls:
> > +
> > +``V4L2_CID_HANTRO_HEVC_SLICE_HEADER_SKIP (integer)``
> > +    Specifies to Hantro HEVC video decoder driver the number of data (in bits) to
> > +    skip in the slice segment header.
> > +    If non-IDR, the bits to be skipped go from syntax element "pic_output_flag"
> > +    to before syntax element "slice_temporal_mvp_enabled_flag".
> > +    If IDR, the skipped bits are just "pic_output_flag"
> > +    (separate_colour_plane_flag is not supported).
> 
> I'm not very keen on this. Without this information the video data cannot be
> decoded, or will it just be suboptimal?
> 
> The problem is that a generic decoder would have to know that the HW is a hantro,

Applications can just query which controls are exposed by a video device,
and if this control is found, then it means it needs to be set.

> and then call this control. If they don't (and are testing on non-hantro HW), then
> it won't work, thus defeating the purpose of the HW independent decoder API.
> 
> Since hantro is widely used, and if there is no other way to do this beside explitely
> setting this control, then perhaps this should be part of the standard HEVC API.
> Non-hantro drivers that do not need this can just skip it.
> 

The decision to move it out of the HEVC API is not really to avoid setting it.
In the end, most/all applications will end up required to set this 

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From: Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@collabora.com>
To: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil-cisco@xs4all.nl>,
	Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard@collabora.com>,
	p.zabel@pengutronix.de, mchehab@kernel.org,  robh+dt@kernel.org,
	shawnguo@kernel.org, s.hauer@pengutronix.de,  festevam@gmail.com,
	lee.jones@linaro.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	 mripard@kernel.org, paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com,
	wens@csie.org,  jernej.skrabec@siol.net,
	emil.l.velikov@gmail.com
Cc: kernel@pengutronix.de, linux-imx@nxp.com,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org,  linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  devel@driverdev.osuosl.org,
	kernel@collabora.com, cphealy@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 6/9] media: uapi: Add a control for HANTRO driver
Date: Wed, 05 May 2021 18:01:25 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f5d194db2bb70237c8b3b5072daac2d7ad404b84.camel@collabora.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a7c9fe23-2900-ac90-7131-21380fbfc793@xs4all.nl>

On Wed, 2021-05-05 at 16:55 +0200, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> On 20/04/2021 14:10, Benjamin Gaignard wrote:
> > The HEVC HANTRO driver needs to know the number of bits to skip at
> > the beginning of the slice header.
> > That is a hardware specific requirement so create a dedicated control
> > for this purpose.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard@collabora.com>
> > ---
> >  .../userspace-api/media/drivers/hantro.rst    | 19 +++++++++++++++++++
> >  .../userspace-api/media/drivers/index.rst     |  1 +
> >  include/media/hevc-ctrls.h                    | 13 +++++++++++++
> >  3 files changed, 33 insertions(+)
> >  create mode 100644 Documentation/userspace-api/media/drivers/hantro.rst
> > 
> > diff --git a/Documentation/userspace-api/media/drivers/hantro.rst b/Documentation/userspace-api/media/drivers/hantro.rst
> > new file mode 100644
> > index 000000000000..cd9754b4e005
> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ b/Documentation/userspace-api/media/drivers/hantro.rst
> > @@ -0,0 +1,19 @@
> > +.. SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
> > +
> > +Hantro video decoder driver
> > +===========================
> > +
> > +The Hantro video decoder driver implements the following driver-specific controls:
> > +
> > +``V4L2_CID_HANTRO_HEVC_SLICE_HEADER_SKIP (integer)``
> > +    Specifies to Hantro HEVC video decoder driver the number of data (in bits) to
> > +    skip in the slice segment header.
> > +    If non-IDR, the bits to be skipped go from syntax element "pic_output_flag"
> > +    to before syntax element "slice_temporal_mvp_enabled_flag".
> > +    If IDR, the skipped bits are just "pic_output_flag"
> > +    (separate_colour_plane_flag is not supported).
> 
> I'm not very keen on this. Without this information the video data cannot be
> decoded, or will it just be suboptimal?
> 
> The problem is that a generic decoder would have to know that the HW is a hantro,

Applications can just query which controls are exposed by a video device,
and if this control is found, then it means it needs to be set.

> and then call this control. If they don't (and are testing on non-hantro HW), then
> it won't work, thus defeating the purpose of the HW independent decoder API.
> 
> Since hantro is widely used, and if there is no other way to do this beside explitely
> setting this control, then perhaps this should be part of the standard HEVC API.
> Non-hantro drivers that do not need this can just skip it.
> 

The decision to move it out of the HEVC API is not really to avoid setting it.
In the end, most/all applications will end up required to set this 


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From: Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@collabora.com>
To: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil-cisco@xs4all.nl>,
	Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard@collabora.com>,
	p.zabel@pengutronix.de, mchehab@kernel.org,  robh+dt@kernel.org,
	shawnguo@kernel.org, s.hauer@pengutronix.de,  festevam@gmail.com,
	lee.jones@linaro.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	 mripard@kernel.org, paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com,
	wens@csie.org,  jernej.skrabec@siol.net,
	emil.l.velikov@gmail.com
Cc: kernel@pengutronix.de, linux-imx@nxp.com,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org,  linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  devel@driverdev.osuosl.org,
	kernel@collabora.com, cphealy@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 6/9] media: uapi: Add a control for HANTRO driver
Date: Wed, 05 May 2021 18:01:25 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f5d194db2bb70237c8b3b5072daac2d7ad404b84.camel@collabora.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a7c9fe23-2900-ac90-7131-21380fbfc793@xs4all.nl>

On Wed, 2021-05-05 at 16:55 +0200, Hans Verkuil wrote:
> On 20/04/2021 14:10, Benjamin Gaignard wrote:
> > The HEVC HANTRO driver needs to know the number of bits to skip at
> > the beginning of the slice header.
> > That is a hardware specific requirement so create a dedicated control
> > for this purpose.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard@collabora.com>
> > ---
> >  .../userspace-api/media/drivers/hantro.rst    | 19 +++++++++++++++++++
> >  .../userspace-api/media/drivers/index.rst     |  1 +
> >  include/media/hevc-ctrls.h                    | 13 +++++++++++++
> >  3 files changed, 33 insertions(+)
> >  create mode 100644 Documentation/userspace-api/media/drivers/hantro.rst
> > 
> > diff --git a/Documentation/userspace-api/media/drivers/hantro.rst b/Documentation/userspace-api/media/drivers/hantro.rst
> > new file mode 100644
> > index 000000000000..cd9754b4e005
> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ b/Documentation/userspace-api/media/drivers/hantro.rst
> > @@ -0,0 +1,19 @@
> > +.. SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
> > +
> > +Hantro video decoder driver
> > +===========================
> > +
> > +The Hantro video decoder driver implements the following driver-specific controls:
> > +
> > +``V4L2_CID_HANTRO_HEVC_SLICE_HEADER_SKIP (integer)``
> > +    Specifies to Hantro HEVC video decoder driver the number of data (in bits) to
> > +    skip in the slice segment header.
> > +    If non-IDR, the bits to be skipped go from syntax element "pic_output_flag"
> > +    to before syntax element "slice_temporal_mvp_enabled_flag".
> > +    If IDR, the skipped bits are just "pic_output_flag"
> > +    (separate_colour_plane_flag is not supported).
> 
> I'm not very keen on this. Without this information the video data cannot be
> decoded, or will it just be suboptimal?
> 
> The problem is that a generic decoder would have to know that the HW is a hantro,

Applications can just query which controls are exposed by a video device,
and if this control is found, then it means it needs to be set.

> and then call this control. If they don't (and are testing on non-hantro HW), then
> it won't work, thus defeating the purpose of the HW independent decoder API.
> 
> Since hantro is widely used, and if there is no other way to do this beside explitely
> setting this control, then perhaps this should be part of the standard HEVC API.
> Non-hantro drivers that do not need this can just skip it.
> 

The decision to move it out of the HEVC API is not really to avoid setting it.
In the end, most/all applications will end up required to set this 


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-05-05 21:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-20 12:10 [PATCH v10 0/9] Add HANTRO G2/HEVC decoder support for IMX8MQ Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10 ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10 ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10 ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10 ` [PATCH v10 1/9] media: hevc: Add fields and flags for hevc PPS Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10 ` [PATCH v10 2/9] media: hevc: Add decode params control Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10 ` [PATCH v10 3/9] media: hantro: change hantro_codec_ops run prototype to return errors Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10 ` [PATCH v10 4/9] media: hantro: Define HEVC codec profiles and supported features Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10 ` [PATCH v10 5/9] media: hantro: Only use postproc when post processed formats are defined Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10 ` [PATCH v10 6/9] media: uapi: Add a control for HANTRO driver Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-29 13:43   ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-04-29 13:43     ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-04-29 13:43     ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-04-29 13:43     ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-05-05 14:55   ` Hans Verkuil
2021-05-05 14:55     ` Hans Verkuil
2021-05-05 14:55     ` Hans Verkuil
2021-05-05 14:55     ` Hans Verkuil
2021-05-05 15:20     ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-05-05 15:20       ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-05-05 15:20       ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-05-05 15:20       ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-05-06 12:50       ` Hans Verkuil
2021-05-06 12:50         ` Hans Verkuil
2021-05-06 12:50         ` Hans Verkuil
2021-05-06 12:50         ` Hans Verkuil
2021-05-06 13:11         ` John Cox
2021-05-06 13:11           ` John Cox
2021-05-06 13:11           ` John Cox
2021-05-06 13:11           ` John Cox
2021-05-06 14:29           ` Nicolas Dufresne
2021-05-06 14:29             ` Nicolas Dufresne
2021-05-06 14:29             ` Nicolas Dufresne
2021-05-06 14:29             ` Nicolas Dufresne
2021-05-16 23:04         ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-05-16 23:04           ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-05-16 23:04           ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-05-16 23:04           ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-05-18 17:17           ` Nicolas Dufresne
2021-05-18 17:17             ` Nicolas Dufresne
2021-05-18 17:17             ` Nicolas Dufresne
2021-05-18 17:17             ` Nicolas Dufresne
2021-05-05 21:01     ` Ezequiel Garcia [this message]
2021-05-05 21:01       ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-05-05 21:01       ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-05-05 21:01       ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-05-05 15:18   ` John Cox
2021-05-05 15:18     ` John Cox
2021-05-05 15:18     ` John Cox
2021-05-05 15:18     ` John Cox
2021-05-05 15:33     ` Nicolas Dufresne
2021-05-05 15:33       ` Nicolas Dufresne
2021-05-05 15:33       ` Nicolas Dufresne
2021-05-05 15:33       ` Nicolas Dufresne
2021-04-20 12:10 ` [PATCH v10 7/9] media: hantro: handle V4L2_PIX_FMT_HEVC_SLICE control Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10 ` [PATCH v10 8/9] media: hantro: Introduce G2/HEVC decoder Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-05-05 14:47   ` Hans Verkuil
2021-05-05 14:47     ` Hans Verkuil
2021-05-05 14:47     ` Hans Verkuil
2021-05-05 14:47     ` Hans Verkuil
2021-04-20 12:10 ` [PATCH v10 9/9] media: hantro: IMX8M: add variant for G2/HEVC codec Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-04-20 12:10   ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-05-05 14:42 ` [PATCH v10 0/9] Add HANTRO G2/HEVC decoder support for IMX8MQ Hans Verkuil
2021-05-05 14:42   ` Hans Verkuil
2021-05-05 14:42   ` Hans Verkuil
2021-05-05 14:42   ` Hans Verkuil
2021-05-25 15:39   ` Hans Verkuil
2021-05-25 15:39     ` Hans Verkuil
2021-05-25 15:39     ` Hans Verkuil
2021-05-25 15:39     ` Hans Verkuil
2021-05-25 16:14     ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-05-25 16:14       ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-05-25 16:14       ` Benjamin Gaignard
2021-05-25 16:14       ` Benjamin Gaignard

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