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From: "Matheus K. Ferst" <matheus.ferst@eldorado.org.br>
To: Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org
Cc: lagarcia@br.ibm.com, luis.pires@eldorado.org.br, f4bug@amsat.org,
	david@gibson.dropbear.id.au
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 23/23] target/ppc: Move cmp/cmpi/cmpl/cmpli to decodetree
Date: Wed, 26 May 2021 12:17:48 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fc7fde45-a8ae-7249-7cac-b9f7fbfbee0f@eldorado.org.br> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <720be115-3aad-f4bd-e636-5dab76478806@linaro.org>

On 24/05/2021 15:51, Richard Henderson wrote:
> On 5/21/21 10:25 AM, Matheus K. Ferst wrote:
>> On 18/05/2021 07:12, Richard Henderson wrote:
>>> On 5/17/21 3:50 PM, matheus.ferst@eldorado.org.br wrote:
>>>> +    if(a->l && (ctx->insns_flags & PPC_64B)) {
>>>
>>> Space after IF.
>>> > If I look back to the 6xx manual, I see
>>>
>>>    NOTE: If L = 1, the instruction form is invalid.
>>>
>>> The fact that we're allowing L=1 for ppc32 is an existing bug, 
>>> afaics. We should fix that.
>>>
>>>
>>> r~
>>
>> The previous commit on this line in translate.c says that "on most 
>> 32bit CPUs we should always treat the compare as 32bit compare, as the 
>> CPU will ignore the L bit", so maybe it was intentional. Should we 
>> change it anyway?
> 
> The actual change of 36f48d9c78c is about NARROW_MODE, which is about 
> the MSR.SF bit, and is correct.
> 
> The commit message mentions the e500mc specifically does check the L 
> bit, and then hand-waves about the others not checking.  But the text I 
> found in the 6xx manual says that one checks too.
> 
> I wonder if the IBM folk can shed any further light on this?
> 
> 
> r~

I was pointed to the 601 manual, which says:

"While the PowerPC architecture specifies that the value in the L field 
determines whether the operands are treated as 32- or 64-bit values, the 
601 ignores the value in the L field and treats the operands as 32-bit 
values."

There is also a section in Appendix B called "Reserved Bits in 
Instructions", which says:

"These are shown with '/'s in the instruction opcode definitions. In the 
POWER architecture such bits are ignored by the processor. In PowerPC 
architecture they must be 0 or the instruction form is invalid. In 
several cases the PowerPC architecture assumes that such bits in POWER 
instructions are indeed 0. The cases include the following:
- cmpi, cmp, cmpli, and cmpl assume that bit 10 in the POWER 
instructions is 0.
- mtspr and mfspr assume that bits 16–20 in the POWER instructions are 0."

Searching the manuals for other processors, I identified that the 
manuals for 405, 440, e500, and e500mc explicit says that the L bit 
should always be 0, and manuals for 603e, 604, 604e, 740/745/750/755, 
750CX, 750CL, 750FX, 7400/7410, 7447/7447A/7448/7450/7455, e300, and 
e600 list the bit L in operand syntax but do not mention any 
restrictions on its value.

Alfredo Dal Ava Junior (adalva) did some tests for us on his G4 MacBook, 
confirming that the bit is ignored in PowerPC 7447A v1.2, one of which 
the manual does not specify the behavior, but I don't know if can assume 
the same for other processors.

If we do bother to emulate the specific behavior for each CPU, what 
would be the default for those whose manual is not explicit and we 
cannot test? Also, I not sure how to check for it, do we need a new 
POWERPC_FLAG in pcc->flags?

-- 
Matheus K. Ferst
Instituto de Pesquisas ELDORADO <http://www.eldorado.org.br/>
Analista de Software Júnior
Aviso Legal - Disclaimer <https://www.eldorado.org.br/disclaimer.html>


  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-26 15:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-17 20:50 [PATCH v5 00/23] Base for adding PowerPC 64-bit instructions matheus.ferst
2021-05-17 20:50 ` [PATCH v5 01/23] target/ppc: Introduce gen_icount_io_start matheus.ferst
2021-05-18  0:13   ` David Gibson
2021-05-17 20:50 ` [PATCH v5 02/23] target/ppc: Replace POWERPC_EXCP_STOP with DISAS_EXIT_UPDATE matheus.ferst
2021-05-18  0:14   ` David Gibson
2021-05-17 20:50 ` [PATCH v5 03/23] target/ppc: Replace POWERPC_EXCP_BRANCH with DISAS_NORETURN matheus.ferst
2021-05-18  0:15   ` David Gibson
2021-05-17 20:50 ` [PATCH v5 04/23] target/ppc: Remove DisasContext.exception matheus.ferst
2021-05-18  0:17   ` David Gibson
2021-05-17 20:50 ` [PATCH v5 05/23] target/ppc: Move single-step check to ppc_tr_tb_stop matheus.ferst
2021-05-18  0:19   ` David Gibson
2021-05-17 20:50 ` [PATCH v5 06/23] target/ppc: Tidy exception vs exit_tb matheus.ferst
2021-05-18  0:19   ` David Gibson
2021-05-17 20:50 ` [PATCH v5 07/23] target/ppc: Mark helper_raise_exception* as noreturn matheus.ferst
2021-05-18  0:20   ` David Gibson
2021-05-17 20:50 ` [PATCH v5 08/23] target/ppc: Use translator_loop_temp_check matheus.ferst
2021-05-18  0:20   ` David Gibson
2021-05-17 20:50 ` [PATCH v5 09/23] target/ppc: Introduce macros to check isa extensions matheus.ferst
2021-05-18  0:21   ` David Gibson
2021-05-17 20:50 ` [PATCH v5 10/23] target/ppc: Move page crossing check to ppc_tr_translate_insn matheus.ferst
2021-05-18  0:23   ` David Gibson
2021-05-17 20:50 ` [PATCH v5 11/23] target/ppc: Add infrastructure for prefixed insns matheus.ferst
2021-05-18  0:25   ` David Gibson
2021-05-17 20:50 ` [PATCH v5 12/23] target/ppc: Move ADDI, ADDIS to decodetree, implement PADDI matheus.ferst
2021-05-18  0:35   ` David Gibson
2021-05-17 20:50 ` [PATCH v5 13/23] target/ppc: Implement PNOP matheus.ferst
2021-05-18  0:36   ` David Gibson
2021-05-17 20:50 ` [PATCH v5 14/23] TCG: add tcg_constant_tl matheus.ferst
2021-05-18  0:37   ` David Gibson
2021-05-17 20:50 ` [PATCH v5 15/23] target/ppc: Move D/DS/X-form integer loads to decodetree matheus.ferst
2021-05-18  0:44   ` David Gibson
2021-05-17 20:50 ` [PATCH v5 16/23] target/ppc: Implement prefixed integer load instructions matheus.ferst
2021-05-18  0:45   ` David Gibson
2021-05-17 20:50 ` [PATCH v5 17/23] target/ppc: Move D/DS/X-form integer stores to decodetree matheus.ferst
2021-05-18  0:47   ` David Gibson
2021-05-17 20:50 ` [PATCH v5 18/23] target/ppc: Implement prefixed integer store instructions matheus.ferst
2021-05-18  0:47   ` David Gibson
2021-05-17 20:50 ` [PATCH v5 19/23] target/ppc: Implement setbc/setbcr/stnbc/setnbcr instructions matheus.ferst
2021-05-18  0:49   ` David Gibson
2021-05-18  9:48   ` Richard Henderson
2021-05-17 20:50 ` [PATCH v5 20/23] target/ppc: Implement cfuged instruction matheus.ferst
2021-05-18  0:51   ` David Gibson
2021-05-17 20:50 ` [PATCH v5 21/23] target/ppc: Implement vcfuged instruction matheus.ferst
2021-05-18  0:52   ` David Gibson
2021-05-18  9:54   ` Richard Henderson
2021-05-17 20:50 ` [PATCH v5 22/23] target/ppc: Move addpcis to decodetree matheus.ferst
2021-05-18  0:53   ` David Gibson
2021-05-18  9:55   ` Richard Henderson
2021-05-17 20:50 ` [PATCH v5 23/23] target/ppc: Move cmp/cmpi/cmpl/cmpli " matheus.ferst
2021-05-18  0:56   ` David Gibson
2021-05-18 10:12   ` Richard Henderson
2021-05-21 17:25     ` Matheus K. Ferst
2021-05-24 18:51       ` Richard Henderson
2021-05-26 15:17         ` Matheus K. Ferst [this message]
2021-05-26 16:11           ` Richard Henderson
2021-05-27  1:11           ` David Gibson
2021-05-18  3:58 ` [PATCH v5 00/23] Base for adding PowerPC 64-bit instructions David Gibson

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