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From: "Liang, Kan" <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: acme@kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, jolsa@kernel.org, eranian@google.com,
	alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com, ak@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [RESEND PATCH V3 3/8] perf/x86/intel: Support hardware TopDown metrics
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 09:31:37 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fd95a255-4499-2907-8af9-d340f157da68@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190828151921.GD17205@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>



On 8/28/2019 11:19 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> +static int icl_set_topdown_event_period(struct perf_event *event)
>> +{
>> +	struct hw_perf_event *hwc = &event->hw;
>> +	s64 left = local64_read(&hwc->period_left);
>> +
>> +	/*
>> +	 * Clear PERF_METRICS and Fixed counter 3 in initialization.
>> +	 * After that, both MSRs will be cleared for each read.
>> +	 * Don't need to clear them again.
>> +	 */
>> +	if (left == x86_pmu.max_period) {
>> +		wrmsrl(MSR_CORE_PERF_FIXED_CTR3, 0);
>> +		wrmsrl(MSR_PERF_METRICS, 0);
>> +		local64_set(&hwc->period_left, 0);
>> +	}
> This really doesn't make sense to me; if you set FIXED_CTR3 := 0, you'll
> never trigger the overflow there; this then seems to suggest the actual
> counter value is irrelevant. Therefore you don't actually need this.
> 

Could you please elaborate on why initialization to 0 never triggers an 
overflow?
As of my understanding, initialization to 0 only means that it will take 
more time than initialization to -max_period (0x8000 0000 0001) to 
trigger an overflow.

Maybe 0 is too tricky. We can set the initial value to 1.
I think the bottom line is that we need a small initial value for 
FIXED_CTR3 here.
PERF_METRICS reports an 8bit integer fraction which is something like 
0xff * internal counters / FIXCTR3.
The internal counters only start counting from 0. (SW cannot set an 
arbitrary initial value for internal counters.)
If the initial value of FIXED_CTR3 is too big, PERF_METRICS could always 
remain constant, e.g. 0.

Thanks,
Kan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-08-29 13:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-26 14:47 [RESEND PATCH V3 0/8] TopDown metrics support for Icelake kan.liang
2019-08-26 14:47 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 1/8] perf/x86/intel: Set correct mask for TOPDOWN.SLOTS kan.liang
2019-08-28  7:48   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-26 14:47 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 2/8] perf/x86/intel: Basic support for metrics counters kan.liang
2019-08-28  7:48   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-28  7:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-28 13:59     ` Liang, Kan
2019-08-28  8:44   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-28  9:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-28  9:37       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-28 13:51       ` Liang, Kan
2019-08-28  8:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-26 14:47 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 3/8] perf/x86/intel: Support hardware TopDown metrics kan.liang
2019-08-28 15:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-28 19:04     ` Andi Kleen
2019-08-31  9:19       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-09 13:40         ` Liang, Kan
2019-08-28 19:35     ` Liang, Kan
2019-08-28 15:19   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-28 16:11     ` [PATCH] x86/math64: Provide a sane mul_u64_u32_div() implementation for x86_64 Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-29  9:30       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-28 16:17     ` [RESEND PATCH V3 3/8] perf/x86/intel: Support hardware TopDown metrics Andi Kleen
2019-08-28 16:28       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-29  3:11         ` Andi Kleen
2019-08-29  9:17           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-29 13:31     ` Liang, Kan [this message]
2019-08-29 13:52       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-29 16:56         ` Liang, Kan
2019-08-31  9:18           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-30 23:18   ` Stephane Eranian
2019-08-31  0:31     ` Andi Kleen
2019-08-31  9:13       ` Stephane Eranian
2019-08-31  9:29         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-31 17:53         ` Andi Kleen
2019-08-26 14:47 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 4/8] perf/x86/intel: Support per thread RDPMC " kan.liang
2019-08-26 14:47 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 5/8] perf/x86/intel: Export TopDown events for Icelake kan.liang
2019-08-26 14:47 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 6/8] perf/x86/intel: Disable sampling read slots and topdown kan.liang
2019-08-26 14:47 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 7/8] perf, tools, stat: Support new per thread TopDown metrics kan.liang
2019-08-26 14:47 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 8/8] perf, tools: Add documentation for topdown metrics kan.liang

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