From: Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@Hansenpartnership.com>,
"ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINER SUMMIT] Stable trees and release time
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 15:15:25 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <nycvar.YFH.7.76.1809051509100.15880@cbobk.fhfr.pm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180905130512.GA5601@kroah.com>
On Wed, 5 Sep 2018, Greg KH wrote:
> For these specific ones, I trusted that the maintainer of the subsystem
> knew what they were doing when they marked them for the stable tree.
And do you honestly think they should be marked for stable tree in the
first place?
> Which is what we do in kernel development, we trust others that their
> stewardship of their code subsystems is in the best interest of their
> users.
Sure, I wholeheartedly agree. For Linus' tree, all the web of trust is
there so that changes can be propagated up the maintainership structure,
and we trust the maintainers and developers that they did all the
development and testing as well as they possibly could, and that eventual
bugs in the code will be responsibly fixed.
For stable, there is another aspect that needs to be trusted -- that the
relevance for stable has been properly considered, so that we ideally
avoid the need for "eventual bugs will be fixed" much more pro-actively
than in Linus' tree (that's "stable", right?).
And I think we simply could improve there (well, again, this all very much
depends on the target audience I guess).
*Especially* with the automatic selection thing -- who exactly is the
entity you trust there?
--
Jiri Kosina
SUSE Labs
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Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-09-04 20:58 [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINER SUMMIT] Stable trees and release time Laura Abbott
2018-09-04 21:12 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-05 14:31 ` Greg KH
2018-09-04 21:22 ` Justin Forbes
2018-09-05 14:42 ` Greg KH
2018-09-05 15:10 ` Mark Brown
2018-09-05 15:10 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 16:19 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-05 18:31 ` Laura Abbott
2018-09-05 21:23 ` Justin Forbes
2018-09-06 2:17 ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-04 21:33 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-04 21:55 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-04 22:03 ` Laura Abbott
2018-09-04 23:14 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-04 23:43 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-05 1:17 ` Laura Abbott
2018-09-06 3:56 ` Benjamin Gilbert
2018-09-04 21:58 ` Laura Abbott
2018-09-05 4:53 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 6:48 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-05 8:16 ` Jan Kara
2018-09-05 8:32 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-05 8:56 ` Greg KH
2018-09-05 9:13 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-05 9:33 ` Greg KH
2018-09-05 10:11 ` Mark Brown
2018-09-05 14:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-05 9:58 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-05 10:47 ` Mark Brown
2018-09-05 12:24 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-05 12:53 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-05 13:05 ` Greg KH
2018-09-05 13:15 ` Jiri Kosina [this message]
2018-09-05 14:00 ` Greg KH
2018-09-05 14:06 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 21:02 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-05 16:39 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-05 17:06 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2018-09-05 17:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-05 13:03 ` Takashi Iwai
2018-09-05 13:27 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-05 14:05 ` Greg KH
2018-09-05 15:54 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-05 16:19 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 16:26 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-05 19:09 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 20:18 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 20:33 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-05 14:20 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 14:30 ` Takashi Iwai
2018-09-05 14:41 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 14:46 ` Takashi Iwai
2018-09-05 14:54 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 15:12 ` Takashi Iwai
2018-09-05 15:19 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-05 15:29 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 13:16 ` Mark Brown
2018-09-05 14:27 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 14:50 ` Mark Brown
2018-09-05 15:00 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-05 10:28 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-05 11:20 ` Jiri Kosina
2018-09-05 14:41 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-05 15:18 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-06 8:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-06 12:47 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-04 21:49 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-04 22:06 ` Laura Abbott
2018-09-04 23:35 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-05 1:45 ` Laura Abbott
2018-09-05 2:54 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-05 8:31 ` Jan Kara
2018-09-05 3:44 ` Eduardo Valentin
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