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* csum failed on raid1 even after clean scrub?
@ 2018-07-31  0:43 Sterling Windmill
  2018-07-31  0:56 ` Qu Wenruo
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Sterling Windmill @ 2018-07-31  0:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-btrfs

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I am using a two disk raid1 btrfs filesystem spanning two external hard
drives connected via USB 3.0.

While copying ~6TB of data from this filesystem to local disk via rsync I
am seeing messages like the following in dmesg output:

[ 2213.406267] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 830 off
2124197888 csum 0xb5da0cd2 expected csum 0x6e478250 mirror 2
[ 4890.178727] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 1058 off
26052067328 csum 0x8ccd1067 expected csum 0x4adb8254 mirror 2
[27463.940218] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 5372 off
7954096128 csum 0x9f9b697e expected csum 0xbd61a0e2 mirror 2
[29405.832643] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 31374
off 7893983232 csum 0x12fd0ddc expected csum 0xddcd2f8e mirror 2
[31224.279082] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 150903
off 183635968 csum 0xea025eb4 expected csum 0x46d64878 mirror 2
[32282.635615] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 162774
off 31092424704 csum 0x1ee9b38d expected csum 0x4022e3de mirror 2
[41052.643493] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 163742
off 52214816768 csum 0x6723208c expected csum 0x0377e68a mirror 2
[47723.500430] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 470775
off 12533760 csum 0x9f50f9a0 expected csum 0x23ddc68e mirror 2
[60060.843425] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 786762
off 4178321408 csum 0xcd520ead expected csum 0x46fe6ebc mirror 2
[60900.058745] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 786900
off 896303104 csum 0x4c7e26e7 expected csum 0x86554095 mirror 2
[68149.417236] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 1058 off
3101224960 csum 0x2b8c363c expected csum 0x8df2991a mirror 1
[69072.272010] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 1141 off
2939588608 csum 0xa2969f63 expected csum 0xddf33efd mirror 1
[71342.354453] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 1328 off
57047568384 csum 0xd57f5bb7 expected csum 0x421f96e5 mirror 1

Because the device was consistent, it seemed that one of the disks held bad
data. I wasn't sure if btrfs was correcting the issue by using the other
seemingly good copy on the second disk or if I was copying bad data to the
destination filesystem, so I aborted the copy and ran a scrub of the
filesystem that includes sdj1 by issuing the following command:

btrfs scrub start /external

I let the scrub finish and monitored the result using the following command:

btrfs scrub status /external

Which showed the following output:

scrub status for ece518d2-4af0-4ef7-a31d-8c89b13a5ad9
        scrub started at Sun Jul 29 11:34:44 2018 and finished after
14:34:58
        total bytes scrubbed: 12.80TiB with 0 errors

Alright, perhaps btrfs had already fixed the issues upon encountering them.
I ran my copy again only to see very similar messages show up in dmesg:

[154842.551604] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 1284
off 858886144 csum 0x8caf203c expected csum 0x9a3acab6 mirror 2
[159949.727412] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 1636
off 4463370240 csum 0x8dfaf00c expected csum 0xa7ab457e mirror 2
[160911.893913] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 1729
off 8181428224 csum 0xd57845b5 expected csum 0x6904c54e mirror 2
[165210.245890] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 2927
off 1013219328 csum 0xf2d2820d expected csum 0x812222bb mirror 2
[169279.620570] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 3363
off 900493312 csum 0x6c6a35a2 expected csum 0x2a983a9c mirror 2
[169990.401373] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 4277
off 186707968 csum 0xbdd075d5 expected csum 0xf302e9df mirror 2
[171411.085425] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 4719
off 593842176 csum 0xcdabc7e6 expected csum 0xc137d47a mirror 2
[173370.025471] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 5267
off 2605592576 csum 0xcd2cb8a8 expected csum 0x9de364e9 mirror 2
[180329.942125] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 162774
off 22459506688 csum 0xc38e7a53 expected csum 0xad11854c mirror 2

I would have expected the scrub to find these issues or to show some number
of corrected errors. Perhaps I misunderstand what scrub does?

I also tried tracking down individual files via the referenced inode
numbers with the following command:

btrfs inspect-internal inode-resolve $INODE /external

And ran checksums of the source and destination versions of these files to
find them to be identical. So at least the copy on the source and
destination appear to match.

Maybe I'm experiencing some sort of intermittent USB device / bus issue?
Can anyone help explain what might be happening here?

Thanks!

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* Re: csum failed on raid1 even after clean scrub?
  2018-07-31  0:43 csum failed on raid1 even after clean scrub? Sterling Windmill
@ 2018-07-31  0:56 ` Qu Wenruo
  2018-07-31  1:06   ` Sterling Windmill
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Qu Wenruo @ 2018-07-31  0:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Sterling Windmill, linux-btrfs


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On 2018年07月31日 08:43, Sterling Windmill wrote:
> I am using a two disk raid1 btrfs filesystem spanning two external hard
> drives connected via USB 3.0.

Is there any speed difference between the two device?
And are these 2 devices under the same USB3.0 root hub or different root
hubs?

lsusb output could help to determine the hierarchy.

> 
> While copying ~6TB of data from this filesystem to local disk via rsync
> I am seeing messages like the following in dmesg output:
> 
> [ 2213.406267] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 830
> off 2124197888 csum 0xb5da0cd2 expected csum 0x6e478250 mirror 2

Since only one copy shows the problem, the other copy should be good
thus the read should work without problem.

> [ 4890.178727] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 1058
> off 26052067328 csum 0x8ccd1067 expected csum 0x4adb8254 mirror 2
> [27463.940218] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 5372
> off 7954096128 csum 0x9f9b697e expected csum 0xbd61a0e2 mirror 2
> [29405.832643] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 31374
> off 7893983232 csum 0x12fd0ddc expected csum 0xddcd2f8e mirror 2
> [31224.279082] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino
> 150903 off 183635968 csum 0xea025eb4 expected csum 0x46d64878 mirror 2
> [32282.635615] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino
> 162774 off 31092424704 csum 0x1ee9b38d expected csum 0x4022e3de mirror 2
> [41052.643493] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino
> 163742 off 52214816768 csum 0x6723208c expected csum 0x0377e68a mirror 2
> [47723.500430] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino
> 470775 off 12533760 csum 0x9f50f9a0 expected csum 0x23ddc68e mirror 2
> [60060.843425] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino
> 786762 off 4178321408 csum 0xcd520ead expected csum 0x46fe6ebc mirror 2
> [60900.058745] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino
> 786900 off 896303104 csum 0x4c7e26e7 expected csum 0x86554095 mirror 2
> [68149.417236] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 1058
> off 3101224960 csum 0x2b8c363c expected csum 0x8df2991a mirror 1
> [69072.272010] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 1141
> off 2939588608 csum 0xa2969f63 expected csum 0xddf33efd mirror 1
> [71342.354453] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 1328
> off 57047568384 csum 0xd57f5bb7 expected csum 0x421f96e5 mirror 1
> 
> Because the device was consistent, it seemed that one of the disks held
> bad data. I wasn't sure if btrfs was correcting the issue by using the
> other seemingly good copy on the second disk or if I was copying bad
> data to the destination filesystem, so I aborted the copy and ran a
> scrub of the filesystem that includes sdj1 by issuing the following command:
> 
> btrfs scrub start /external
> 
> I let the scrub finish and monitored the result using the following command:
> 
> btrfs scrub status /external
> 
> Which showed the following output:
> 
> scrub status for ece518d2-4af0-4ef7-a31d-8c89b13a5ad9
>         scrub started at Sun Jul 29 11:34:44 2018 and finished after
> 14:34:58
>         total bytes scrubbed: 12.80TiB with 0 errors

Would you provide the dmesg during the scrub?

> 
> Alright, perhaps btrfs had already fixed the issues upon encountering
> them. I ran my copy again only to see very similar messages show up in
> dmesg:
> 
> [154842.551604] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 1284
> off 858886144 csum 0x8caf203c expected csum 0x9a3acab6 mirror 2

At least the corrupted ino and offset is different, thus the old
corruption is fixed, but somehow it introduced new corruption.

> [159949.727412] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 1636
> off 4463370240 csum 0x8dfaf00c expected csum 0xa7ab457e mirror 2
> [160911.893913] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 1729
> off 8181428224 csum 0xd57845b5 expected csum 0x6904c54e mirror 2
> [165210.245890] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 2927
> off 1013219328 csum 0xf2d2820d expected csum 0x812222bb mirror 2
> [169279.620570] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 3363
> off 900493312 csum 0x6c6a35a2 expected csum 0x2a983a9c mirror 2
> [169990.401373] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 4277
> off 186707968 csum 0xbdd075d5 expected csum 0xf302e9df mirror 2
> [171411.085425] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 4719
> off 593842176 csum 0xcdabc7e6 expected csum 0xc137d47a mirror 2
> [173370.025471] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 5267
> off 2605592576 csum 0xcd2cb8a8 expected csum 0x9de364e9 mirror 2
> [180329.942125] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino
> 162774 off 22459506688 csum 0xc38e7a53 expected csum 0xad11854c mirror 2

Since all corruption showed above is about mirror 2, would you mind to
try scrub certain device other than the whole fs and attach the dmesg?

# btrfs scrub start <device>



> 
> I would have expected the scrub to find these issues or to show some
> number of corrected errors. Perhaps I misunderstand what scrub does?

Your understanding is completely correct.
In fact reading from corrupted block should trigger re-write on
corrupted data.

I'm wondering if it's related to some scrub race, since for multi-device
btrfs, full fs scrub is addressed by doing multiple scrub
simultaneously, one scrub for each device.
It used to cause problem for raid5/6, but never heard of corruption for
raid1.

Would you provide the kernel version and full dmesg (including reading
error and scrub, and later read)?

> 
> I also tried tracking down individual files via the referenced inode
> numbers with the following command:
> 
> btrfs inspect-internal inode-resolve $INODE /external
> 
> And ran checksums of the source and destination versions of these files
> to find them to be identical. So at least the copy on the source and
> destination appear to match.

Since btrfs will switch to the good copy, the data should be correct.

> 
> Maybe I'm experiencing some sort of intermittent USB device / bus issue?

Full dmesg may help, if there is something related to usb.

Thanks,
Qu

> Can anyone help explain what might be happening here?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> 


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* Re: csum failed on raid1 even after clean scrub?
  2018-07-31  0:56 ` Qu Wenruo
@ 2018-07-31  1:06   ` Sterling Windmill
  2018-08-01  7:52     ` Duncan
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Sterling Windmill @ 2018-07-31  1:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-btrfs

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 Thanks for the speedy reply!

Here's my kernel version:

4.17.9-200.fc28.x86_64

dmesg doesn't show any USB related info at all, no signs of errors /
warnings.

Both drives are identical, Seagate 8TB external drives connected to the
following PCIe controller:

03:00.0 USB controller: NEC Corporation uPD720200 USB 3.0 Host Controller
(rev 03)

lsusb output:

Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 004 Device 005: ID 0bc2:ab38 Seagate RSS LLC Backup Plus Hub
Bus 004 Device 003: ID 0bc2:ab45 Seagate RSS LLC
Bus 004 Device 004: ID 0bc2:ab38 Seagate RSS LLC Backup Plus Hub
Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0bc2:ab45 Seagate RSS LLC
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 003: ID 0bc2:ab44 Seagate RSS LLC
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0bc2:ab44 Seagate RSS LLC
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0624:0248 Avocent Corp. Virtual Hub
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

There's no output in dmesg related to the scrub, only the few csum failed
messages I included in my last email.

Per your request, I'm starting a scrub on the single device with the
following command:

btrfs scrub start /dev/sdj1
scrub started on /dev/sdj1, fsid ece518d2-4af0-4ef7-a31d-8c89b13a5ad9
(pid=14684)

I'll report back once this is complete. Anything else I can collect that
might be helpful in understanding what's happening here?


On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 8:56 PM Qu Wenruo <quwenruo.btrfs@gmx.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 2018年07月31日 08:43, Sterling Windmill wrote:
> > I am using a two disk raid1 btrfs filesystem spanning two external hard
> > drives connected via USB 3.0.
>
> Is there any speed difference between the two device?
> And are these 2 devices under the same USB3.0 root hub or different root
> hubs?
>
> lsusb output could help to determine the hierarchy.
>
> >
> > While copying ~6TB of data from this filesystem to local disk via rsync
> > I am seeing messages like the following in dmesg output:
> >
> > [ 2213.406267] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 830
> > off 2124197888 csum 0xb5da0cd2 expected csum 0x6e478250 mirror 2
>
> Since only one copy shows the problem, the other copy should be good
> thus the read should work without problem.
>
> > [ 4890.178727] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 1058
> > off 26052067328 csum 0x8ccd1067 expected csum 0x4adb8254 mirror 2
> > [27463.940218] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 5372
> > off 7954096128 csum 0x9f9b697e expected csum 0xbd61a0e2 mirror 2
> > [29405.832643] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 31374
> > off 7893983232 csum 0x12fd0ddc expected csum 0xddcd2f8e mirror 2
> > [31224.279082] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino
> > 150903 off 183635968 csum 0xea025eb4 expected csum 0x46d64878 mirror 2
> > [32282.635615] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino
> > 162774 off 31092424704 csum 0x1ee9b38d expected csum 0x4022e3de mirror 2
> > [41052.643493] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino
> > 163742 off 52214816768 csum 0x6723208c expected csum 0x0377e68a mirror 2
> > [47723.500430] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino
> > 470775 off 12533760 csum 0x9f50f9a0 expected csum 0x23ddc68e mirror 2
> > [60060.843425] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino
> > 786762 off 4178321408 csum 0xcd520ead expected csum 0x46fe6ebc mirror 2
> > [60900.058745] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino
> > 786900 off 896303104 csum 0x4c7e26e7 expected csum 0x86554095 mirror 2
> > [68149.417236] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 1058
> > off 3101224960 csum 0x2b8c363c expected csum 0x8df2991a mirror 1
> > [69072.272010] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 1141
> > off 2939588608 csum 0xa2969f63 expected csum 0xddf33efd mirror 1
> > [71342.354453] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 1328
> > off 57047568384 csum 0xd57f5bb7 expected csum 0x421f96e5 mirror 1
> >
> > Because the device was consistent, it seemed that one of the disks held
> > bad data. I wasn't sure if btrfs was correcting the issue by using the
> > other seemingly good copy on the second disk or if I was copying bad
> > data to the destination filesystem, so I aborted the copy and ran a
> > scrub of the filesystem that includes sdj1 by issuing the following
> command:
> >
> > btrfs scrub start /external
> >
> > I let the scrub finish and monitored the result using the following
> command:
> >
> > btrfs scrub status /external
> >
> > Which showed the following output:
> >
> > scrub status for ece518d2-4af0-4ef7-a31d-8c89b13a5ad9
> >         scrub started at Sun Jul 29 11:34:44 2018 and finished after
> > 14:34:58
> >         total bytes scrubbed: 12.80TiB with 0 errors
>
> Would you provide the dmesg during the scrub?
>
> >
> > Alright, perhaps btrfs had already fixed the issues upon encountering
> > them. I ran my copy again only to see very similar messages show up in
> > dmesg:
> >
> > [154842.551604] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 1284
> > off 858886144 csum 0x8caf203c expected csum 0x9a3acab6 mirror 2
>
> At least the corrupted ino and offset is different, thus the old
> corruption is fixed, but somehow it introduced new corruption.
>
> > [159949.727412] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 1636
> > off 4463370240 csum 0x8dfaf00c expected csum 0xa7ab457e mirror 2
> > [160911.893913] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 1729
> > off 8181428224 csum 0xd57845b5 expected csum 0x6904c54e mirror 2
> > [165210.245890] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 2927
> > off 1013219328 csum 0xf2d2820d expected csum 0x812222bb mirror 2
> > [169279.620570] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 3363
> > off 900493312 csum 0x6c6a35a2 expected csum 0x2a983a9c mirror 2
> > [169990.401373] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 4277
> > off 186707968 csum 0xbdd075d5 expected csum 0xf302e9df mirror 2
> > [171411.085425] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 4719
> > off 593842176 csum 0xcdabc7e6 expected csum 0xc137d47a mirror 2
> > [173370.025471] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino 5267
> > off 2605592576 csum 0xcd2cb8a8 expected csum 0x9de364e9 mirror 2
> > [180329.942125] BTRFS warning (device sdj1): csum failed root 5 ino
> > 162774 off 22459506688 csum 0xc38e7a53 expected csum 0xad11854c mirror 2
>
> Since all corruption showed above is about mirror 2, would you mind to
> try scrub certain device other than the whole fs and attach the dmesg?
>
> # btrfs scrub start <device>
>
>
>
> >
> > I would have expected the scrub to find these issues or to show some
> > number of corrected errors. Perhaps I misunderstand what scrub does?
>
> Your understanding is completely correct.
> In fact reading from corrupted block should trigger re-write on
> corrupted data.
>
> I'm wondering if it's related to some scrub race, since for multi-device
> btrfs, full fs scrub is addressed by doing multiple scrub
> simultaneously, one scrub for each device.
> It used to cause problem for raid5/6, but never heard of corruption for
> raid1.
>
> Would you provide the kernel version and full dmesg (including reading
> error and scrub, and later read)?
>
> >
> > I also tried tracking down individual files via the referenced inode
> > numbers with the following command:
> >
> > btrfs inspect-internal inode-resolve $INODE /external
> >
> > And ran checksums of the source and destination versions of these files
> > to find them to be identical. So at least the copy on the source and
> > destination appear to match.
>
> Since btrfs will switch to the good copy, the data should be correct.
>
> >
> > Maybe I'm experiencing some sort of intermittent USB device / bus issue?
>
> Full dmesg may help, if there is something related to usb.
>
> Thanks,
> Qu
>
> > Can anyone help explain what might be happening here?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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* Re: csum failed on raid1 even after clean scrub?
  2018-07-31  1:06   ` Sterling Windmill
@ 2018-08-01  7:52     ` Duncan
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Duncan @ 2018-08-01  7:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-btrfs

Sterling Windmill posted on Mon, 30 Jul 2018 21:06:54 -0400 as excerpted:

> Both drives are identical, Seagate 8TB external drives

Are those the "shingled" SMR drives, normally sold as archive drives and 
first commonly available in the 8TB size, and often bought for their 
generally better price-per-TB without fully realizing the implications.

There have been bugs regarding those drives in the past, and while I 
believe those bugs were fixed and AFAIK current status is no known SMR-
specific bugs, they really are /not/ particularly suited to btrfs usage 
even for archiving, and definitely not to general usage (that is, pretty 
much anything but the straight-up archiving use-case they are sold for) 
use-cases.

Of course USB connections are notorious for being unreliable in terms of 
btrfs usage as well, and I'd really hate to think what a combination of 
SMR on USB might wreak.

If they're not SMR then carry-on! =:^)

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman


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