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* Conexant CX20561 - Microphone problems
@ 2009-10-29 22:59 Shawn Starr
  2009-11-02 13:05 ` Takashi Iwai
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Shawn Starr @ 2009-10-29 22:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel

Hello ALSA developers, 

I am having problems with the microphone on the following hardware this is on 
a Lenovo W500 laptop.

Card: HDA Intel                                                                                   
Chip: Conexant CX20561 (Hermosa)

Here is the problems im noticing:

1) If I use ALSA 'default' with the microphone I get noise interference on 
output [high/low/high/low]. 

If I switch this to use the "ALSA Capture on HDA Intel [CONEXANT Analog] I get 
interference except it is the standard 60Hz electrical noise [steady noise]

2) Using the internal/external microphones gives an inconsistent volume. It 
also does not seem to work with the microphone cutting out so much. I need to 
adjust Digital + another microphone but it still drops capturing.

Alsamixer shows:  Digital/Docking Microphone/External Microphone/Internal 
Microphone

Here is the module options I give to the sound driver:

options snd-intel-hda enable_msi=1 power_save=10 power_save_controller=true 
model=laptop index=0

Assuming power saving/controller causes the microphone to cut out or not.

3) I'm now aware that this card has no pinouts for PCM capture 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502293

Thanks for any help, 
Shawn.

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* Re: Conexant CX20561 - Microphone problems
  2009-10-29 22:59 Conexant CX20561 - Microphone problems Shawn Starr
@ 2009-11-02 13:05 ` Takashi Iwai
  2009-11-02 16:36   ` Shawn Starr
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Takashi Iwai @ 2009-11-02 13:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Shawn Starr; +Cc: alsa-devel

At Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:59:40 -0400,
Shawn Starr wrote:
> 
> Hello ALSA developers, 
> 
> I am having problems with the microphone on the following hardware this is on 
> a Lenovo W500 laptop.
> 
> Card: HDA Intel                                                                                   
> Chip: Conexant CX20561 (Hermosa)
> 
> Here is the problems im noticing:
> 
> 1) If I use ALSA 'default' with the microphone I get noise interference on 
> output [high/low/high/low]. 
> 
> If I switch this to use the "ALSA Capture on HDA Intel [CONEXANT Analog] I get 
> interference except it is the standard 60Hz electrical noise [steady noise]
> 
> 2) Using the internal/external microphones gives an inconsistent volume. It 
> also does not seem to work with the microphone cutting out so much. I need to 
> adjust Digital + another microphone but it still drops capturing.
> 
> Alsamixer shows:  Digital/Docking Microphone/External Microphone/Internal 
> Microphone
> 
> Here is the module options I give to the sound driver:
> 
> options snd-intel-hda enable_msi=1 power_save=10 power_save_controller=true 
> model=laptop index=0
> 
> Assuming power saving/controller causes the microphone to cut out or not.
> 
> 3) I'm now aware that this card has no pinouts for PCM capture 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502293

Could you give alsa-info.sh output?  Run with --no-upload option, and
attach the generated file.


thanks,

Takashi

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* Re: Conexant CX20561 - Microphone problems
  2009-11-02 13:05 ` Takashi Iwai
@ 2009-11-02 16:36   ` Shawn Starr
  2009-11-03 10:55     ` Takashi Iwai
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Shawn Starr @ 2009-11-02 16:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel; +Cc: Takashi Iwai

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On November 2, 2009 08:05:37 am Takashi Iwai wrote:
> At Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:59:40 -0400,
> 
> Shawn Starr wrote:
> > Hello ALSA developers,
> >
> > I am having problems with the microphone on the following hardware this
> > is on a Lenovo W500 laptop.
> >
> > Card: HDA Intel
> > Chip: Conexant CX20561 (Hermosa)
> >
> > Here is the problems im noticing:
> >
> > 1) If I use ALSA 'default' with the microphone I get noise interference
> > on output [high/low/high/low].
> >
> > If I switch this to use the "ALSA Capture on HDA Intel [CONEXANT Analog]
> > I get interference except it is the standard 60Hz electrical noise
> > [steady noise]
> >
> > 2) Using the internal/external microphones gives an inconsistent volume.
> > It also does not seem to work with the microphone cutting out so much. I
> > need to adjust Digital + another microphone but it still drops capturing.
> >
> > Alsamixer shows:  Digital/Docking Microphone/External Microphone/Internal
> > Microphone
> >
> > Here is the module options I give to the sound driver:
> >
> > options snd-intel-hda enable_msi=1 power_save=10
> > power_save_controller=true model=laptop index=0
> >
> > Assuming power saving/controller causes the microphone to cut out or not.
> >
> > 3) I'm now aware that this card has no pinouts for PCM capture
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502293
> 
> Could you give alsa-info.sh output?  Run with --no-upload option, and
> attach the generated file.
> 
Here's the attached output, 

Thanks, 
Shawn.

> 
> thanks,
> 
> Takashi
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> 

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upload=true&script=true&cardinfo=
!!################################
!!ALSA Information Script v 0.4.58
!!################################

!!Script ran on: Mon Nov  2 16:35:17 UTC 2009


!!Linux Distribution
!!------------------

Debian GNU/Linux squeeze/sid \n \l


!!DMI Information
!!---------------

Manufacturer:      LENOVO
Product Name:      4058CTO


!!Kernel Information
!!------------------

Kernel release:    2.6.32-rc5-custom
Operating System:  GNU/Linux
Architecture:      x86_64
Processor:         unknown
SMP Enabled:       Yes


!!ALSA Version
!!------------

Driver version:     1.0.21
Library version:    1.0.20
Utilities version:  1.0.21


!!Loaded ALSA modules
!!-------------------

snd_hda_intel
snd_usb_audio


!!Sound Servers on this system
!!----------------------------

Jack:
      Installed - Yes (/usr/bin/jackd)
      Running - No


!!Soundcards recognised by ALSA
!!-----------------------------

 0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
                      HDA Intel at 0xfc020000 irq 17
 1 [Q9000          ]: USB-Audio - QuickCam Pro 9000
                      Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Pro 9000 at usb-0000:00:1d.7-2, high speed


!!PCI Soundcards installed in the system
!!--------------------------------------

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)


!!Advanced information - PCI Vendor/Device/Susbsystem ID's
!!--------------------------------------------------------

00:1b.0 0403: 8086:293e (rev 03)
	Subsystem: 17aa:20f2


!!Modprobe options (Sound related)
!!--------------------------------

snd-intel-hda: enable_msi=1 model=laptop index=0
snd-usb-audio: index=-2 nrpacks=1
snd-atiixp-modem: index=-2
snd-intel8x0m: index=-2
snd-via82xx-modem: index=-2
snd-pcsp: index=-2


!!Loaded sound module options
!!--------------------------

!!Module: snd_hda_intel
	bdl_pos_adj : 1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1
	enable : Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y
	enable_msi : 0
	id : <NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>
	index : -1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1
	model : <NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>
	position_fix : 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
	power_save : 0
	power_save_controller : Y
	probe_mask : -1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1
	probe_only : N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N,N
	single_cmd : N

!!Module: snd_usb_audio
	async_unlink : Y
	device_setup : 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
	enable : Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y,Y
	id : <NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>,<NULL>
	ignore_ctl_error : N
	index : -2,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1
	nrpacks : 1
	pid : -1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1
	vid : -1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1,-1


!!HDA-Intel Codec information
!!---------------------------
--startcollapse--

Codec: Conexant CX20561 (Hermosa)
Address: 0
Function Id: 0x1
Vendor Id: 0x14f15051
Subsystem Id: 0x17aa2100
Revision Id: 0x100000
No Modem Function Group found
Default PCM:
    rates [0x160]: 44100 48000 96000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x1]: PCM
Default Amp-In caps: N/A
Default Amp-Out caps: N/A
GPIO: io=4, o=0, i=0, unsolicited=1, wake=0
  IO[0]: enable=0, dir=0, wake=0, sticky=0, data=0, unsol=0
  IO[1]: enable=0, dir=0, wake=0, sticky=0, data=0, unsol=0
  IO[2]: enable=0, dir=0, wake=0, sticky=0, data=0, unsol=0
  IO[3]: enable=0, dir=0, wake=0, sticky=0, data=0, unsol=0
Node 0x10 [Audio Output] wcaps 0xc1d: Stereo Amp-Out R/L
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x4a, nsteps=0x4a, stepsize=0x03, mute=0
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x2c 0x2c]
  Converter: stream=0, channel=0
  PCM:
    rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x1]: PCM
  Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Node 0x11 [Audio Output] wcaps 0xc1d: Stereo Amp-Out R/L
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x4a, nsteps=0x4a, stepsize=0x03, mute=0
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x4a 0x4a]
  Converter: stream=0, channel=0
  PCM:
    rates [0x560]: 44100 48000 96000 192000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x1]: PCM
  Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Node 0x12 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x211: Stereo Digital
  Converter: stream=0, channel=0
  Digital:
  Digital category: 0x0
  PCM:
    rates [0x160]: 44100 48000 96000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x5]: PCM AC3
Node 0x13 [Beep Generator Widget] wcaps 0x70000c: Mono Amp-Out
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x03, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x17, mute=0
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x00]
Node 0x14 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x100d1b: Stereo Amp-In R/L
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x4a, nsteps=0x50, stepsize=0x03, mute=0
  Amp-In vals:  [0x38 0x38] [0x2b 0x2b]
  Converter: stream=0, channel=0
  SDI-Select: 0
  PCM:
    rates [0x160]: 44100 48000 96000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x1]: PCM
  Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
  Connection: 2
     0x1d* 0x17
Node 0x15 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x100d1b: Stereo Amp-In R/L
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x4a, nsteps=0x50, stepsize=0x03, mute=0
  Amp-In vals:  [0x3c 0x3c]
  Converter: stream=0, channel=0
  SDI-Select: 0
  PCM:
    rates [0x160]: 44100 48000 96000
    bits [0xe]: 16 20 24
    formats [0x1]: PCM
  Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
  Connection: 1
     0x18
Node 0x16 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400581: Stereo
  Pincap 0x0000001c: OUT HP Detect
  Pin Default 0x022140f0: [Jack] HP Out at Ext Front
    Conn = 1/8, Color = Green
    DefAssociation = 0xf, Sequence = 0x0
  Pin-ctls: 0xc0: OUT HP
  Unsolicited: tag=37, enabled=1
  Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
  Connection: 2
     0x10* 0x11
Node 0x17 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40048b: Stereo Amp-In
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x04, stepsize=0x27, mute=0
  Amp-In vals:  [0x03 0x03]
  Pincap 0x00001224: IN Detect
    Vref caps: 50 80
  Pin Default 0x61a190f0: [N/A] Mic at Sep Rear
    Conn = 1/8, Color = Pink
    DefAssociation = 0xf, Sequence = 0x0
  Pin-ctls: 0x24: IN VREF_80
  Unsolicited: tag=38, enabled=1
  Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Node 0x18 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40048b: Stereo Amp-In
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x04, stepsize=0x27, mute=0
  Amp-In vals:  [0x03 0x03]
  Pincap 0x00001224: IN Detect
    Vref caps: 50 80
  Pin Default 0x02a190f0: [Jack] Mic at Ext Front
    Conn = 1/8, Color = Pink
    DefAssociation = 0xf, Sequence = 0x0
  Pin-ctls: 0x24: IN VREF_80
  Unsolicited: tag=39, enabled=1
  Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Node 0x19 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400581: Stereo
  Pincap 0x00000014: OUT Detect
  Pin Default 0x40f000f0: [N/A] Other at Ext N/A
    Conn = Unknown, Color = Unknown
    DefAssociation = 0xf, Sequence = 0x0
  Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
  Unsolicited: tag=37, enabled=1
  Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
  Connection: 2
     0x10* 0x11
Node 0x1a [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400501: Stereo
  Pincap 0x00010010: OUT EAPD
  EAPD 0x2: EAPD
  Pin Default 0x901701f0: [Fixed] Speaker at Int N/A
    Conn = Analog, Color = Unknown
    DefAssociation = 0xf, Sequence = 0x0
    Misc = NO_PRESENCE
  Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
  Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
  Connection: 2
     0x10* 0x11
Node 0x1b [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400500: Mono
  Pincap 0x00010010: OUT EAPD
  EAPD 0x2: EAPD
  Pin Default 0x40f001f0: [N/A] Other at Ext N/A
    Conn = Unknown, Color = Unknown
    DefAssociation = 0xf, Sequence = 0x0
    Misc = NO_PRESENCE
  Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
  Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
  Connection: 2
     0x10* 0x11
Node 0x1c [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400701: Stereo Digital
  Pincap 0x00000010: OUT
  Pin Default 0x40f001f0: [N/A] Other at Ext N/A
    Conn = Unknown, Color = Unknown
    DefAssociation = 0xf, Sequence = 0x0
    Misc = NO_PRESENCE
  Pin-ctls: 0x00:
  Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
  Connection: 1
     0x12
Node 0x1d [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40040b: Stereo Amp-In
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x04, stepsize=0x2f, mute=0
  Amp-In vals:  [0x03 0x03]
  Pincap 0x00000020: IN
  Pin Default 0x90a601f0: [Fixed] Mic at Int N/A
    Conn = Digital, Color = Unknown
    DefAssociation = 0xf, Sequence = 0x0
    Misc = NO_PRESENCE
  Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN
  Power: setting=D0, actual=D0
Node 0x1e [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf00000: Mono
Codec: Conexant ID 2c06
Address: 1
Function Id: 0x2
Vendor Id: 0x14f12c06
Subsystem Id: 0x17aa2122
Revision Id: 0x100000
Modem Function Group: 0x2
--endcollapse--


!!ALSA Device nodes
!!-----------------

crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116,  9 Nov  2 11:28 /dev/snd/controlC0
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 11 Nov  2 11:28 /dev/snd/controlC1
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116,  8 Nov  2 11:28 /dev/snd/hwC0D0
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116,  7 Nov  2 11:28 /dev/snd/hwC0D1
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116,  6 Nov  2 11:28 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116,  5 Nov  2 11:35 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116,  4 Nov  2 11:28 /dev/snd/pcmC0D1p
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 10 Nov  2 11:28 /dev/snd/pcmC1D0c
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116,  3 Nov  2 11:28 /dev/snd/seq
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116,  2 Nov  2 11:28 /dev/snd/timer

/dev/snd/by-id:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  60 Nov  2 11:28 .
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 280 Nov  2 11:28 ..
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  12 Nov  2 11:28 usb-046d_0990_B4261720-02 -> ../controlC1

/dev/snd/by-path:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  80 Nov  2 11:28 .
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 280 Nov  2 11:28 ..
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  12 Nov  2 11:28 pci-0000:00:1b.0 -> ../controlC0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  12 Nov  2 11:28 pci-0000:00:1d.7-usb-0:2:1.2 -> ../controlC1


!!Aplay/Arecord output
!!------------

APLAY

**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: CONEXANT Analog [CONEXANT Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: Conexant Digital [Conexant Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

ARECORD

**** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices ****
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: CONEXANT Analog [CONEXANT Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: Q9000 [QuickCam Pro 9000], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

!!Amixer output
!!-------------

!!-------Mixer controls for card 0 [Intel]

Card hw:0 'Intel'/'HDA Intel at 0xfc020000 irq 17'
  Mixer name	: 'Conexant CX20561 (Hermosa)'
  Components	: 'HDA:14f15051,17aa2100,00100000 HDA:14f12c06,17aa2122,00100000'
  Controls      : 15
  Simple ctrls  : 8
Simple mixer control 'Master',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 74
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 44 [59%] [-30.00dB] [on]
  Front Right: Playback 44 [59%] [-30.00dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
  Capabilities: pvolume
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 255
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 250 [98%] [-1.00dB]
  Front Right: Playback 250 [98%] [-1.00dB]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [off]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Default PCM',0
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'Digital',0
  Capabilities: cvolume
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Capture 0 - 120
  Front Left: Capture 65 [54%] [2.50dB]
  Front Right: Capture 65 [54%] [2.50dB]
Simple mixer control 'Docking Mic',0
  Capabilities: volume pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: 0 - 80
  Front Left: 60 [75%] [-14.00dB] Playback [on]
  Front Right: 60 [75%] [-14.00dB] Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'External Mic',0
  Capabilities: volume pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: 0 - 80
  Front Left: 43 [54%] [-31.00dB] Playback [on]
  Front Right: 43 [54%] [-31.00dB] Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'Internal Mic',0
  Capabilities: volume pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: 0 - 80
  Front Left: 56 [70%] [-18.00dB] Playback [on]
  Front Right: 56 [70%] [-18.00dB] Playback [on]

!!-------Mixer controls for card 1 [Q9000]

Card hw:1 'Q9000'/'Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Pro 9000 at usb-0000:00:1d.7-2, high speed'
  Mixer name	: 'USB Mixer'
  Components	: 'USB046d:0990'
  Controls      : 2
  Simple ctrls  : 1
Simple mixer control 'Mic',0
  Capabilities: cvolume cvolume-joined cswitch cswitch-joined
  Capture channels: Mono
  Limits: Capture 0 - 3072
  Mono: Capture 0 [0%] [on]


!!Alsactl output
!!-------------

--startcollapse--
state.Intel {
	control.1 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 80'
		comment.dbmin -7400
		comment.dbmax 600
		iface MIXER
		name 'Internal Mic Volume'
		value.0 56
		value.1 56
	}
	control.2 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 2
		iface MIXER
		name 'Internal Mic Switch'
		value.0 true
		value.1 true
	}
	control.3 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 80'
		comment.dbmin -7400
		comment.dbmax 600
		iface MIXER
		name 'External Mic Volume'
		value.0 43
		value.1 43
	}
	control.4 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 2
		iface MIXER
		name 'External Mic Switch'
		value.0 true
		value.1 true
	}
	control.5 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 80'
		comment.dbmin -7400
		comment.dbmax 600
		iface MIXER
		name 'Docking Mic Volume'
		value.0 60
		value.1 60
	}
	control.6 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 2
		iface MIXER
		name 'Docking Mic Switch'
		value.0 true
		value.1 true
	}
	control.7 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 74'
		comment.dbmin -7400
		comment.dbmax 0
		iface MIXER
		name 'Master Playback Volume'
		value.0 44
		value.1 44
	}
	control.8 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'Master Playback Switch'
		value true
	}
	control.9 {
		comment.access read
		comment.type IEC958
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'IEC958 Playback Con Mask'
		value '0fff000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000'
	}
	control.10 {
		comment.access read
		comment.type IEC958
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'IEC958 Playback Pro Mask'
		value '0f00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000'
	}
	control.11 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type IEC958
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'IEC958 Playback Default'
		value '0400000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000'
	}
	control.12 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'IEC958 Playback Switch'
		value false
	}
	control.13 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'IEC958 Default PCM Playback Switch'
		value true
	}
	control.14 {
		comment.access 'read write user'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 255'
		comment.tlv '0000000100000008ffffec1400000014'
		comment.dbmin -5100
		comment.dbmax 0
		iface MIXER
		name 'PCM Playback Volume'
		value.0 250
		value.1 250
	}
	control.15 {
		comment.access 'read write user'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 2
		comment.range '0 - 120'
		comment.tlv '0000000100000008fffff44800000032'
		comment.dbmin -3000
		comment.dbmax 3000
		iface MIXER
		name 'Digital Capture Volume'
		value.0 65
		value.1 65
	}
}
state.Q9000 {
	control.1 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type BOOLEAN
		comment.count 1
		iface MIXER
		name 'Mic Capture Switch'
		value true
	}
	control.2 {
		comment.access 'read write'
		comment.type INTEGER
		comment.count 1
		comment.range '0 - 3072'
		iface MIXER
		name 'Mic Capture Volume'
		value 0
	}
}
--endcollapse--


!!All Loaded Modules
!!------------------

Module
cryptd
aes_x86_64
aes_generic
fbcon
tileblit
font
bitblit
softcursor
i915
drm_kms_helper
drm
i2c_algo_bit
vboxnetadp
vboxnetflt
vboxdrv
coretemp
firewire_sbp2
snd_hda_codec_conexant
snd_hda_intel
snd_hda_codec
snd_usb_audio
snd_pcm_oss
snd_mixer_oss
snd_pcm
arc4
snd_seq_dummy
snd_usb_lib
snd_hwdep
snd_seq_oss
snd_seq_midi
snd_rawmidi
iwlagn
snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq
iwlcore
mac80211
snd_timer
cfg80211
pcmcia
snd_seq_device
i2c_i801
joydev
snd
uvcvideo
videodev
v4l1_compat
v4l2_compat_ioctl32
soundcore
thinkpad_acpi
yenta_socket
rsrc_nonstatic
pcmcia_core
snd_page_alloc
nvram
psmouse
serio_raw
usbhid
firewire_ohci
firewire_core
crc_itu_t
ohci1394
ricoh_mmc
ieee1394
sdhci_pci
sdhci
led_class
e1000e
video
output
intel_agp


!!Sysfs Files
!!-----------

/sys/class/sound/hwC0D0/init_pin_configs:
0x16 0x022140f0
0x17 0x61a190f0
0x18 0x02a190f0
0x19 0x40f000f0
0x1a 0x901701f0
0x1b 0x40f001f0
0x1c 0x40f001f0
0x1d 0x90a601f0

/sys/class/sound/hwC0D0/driver_pin_configs:

/sys/class/sound/hwC0D0/user_pin_configs:

/sys/class/sound/hwC0D0/init_verbs:

/sys/class/sound/hwC0D1/init_pin_configs:
0x73 0x016a10f0

/sys/class/sound/hwC0D1/driver_pin_configs:

/sys/class/sound/hwC0D1/user_pin_configs:

/sys/class/sound/hwC0D1/init_verbs:


!!ALSA/HDA dmesg
!!------------------

[    6.184325] phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'iwl-agn-rs'
[    6.348894] HDA Intel 0000:00:1b.0: PCI INT B -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
[    6.349044] HDA Intel 0000:00:1b.0: setting latency timer to 64
[    6.533734] input: HDA Intel Headphone as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/sound/card0/input9
[    6.533893] input: HDA Intel Mic as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/sound/card0/input10
[    6.534031] input: HDA Intel Mic as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/sound/card0/input11
[    6.534169] input: HDA Intel Headphone as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/sound/card0/input12
[    6.651462] usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio



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* Re: Conexant CX20561 - Microphone problems
  2009-11-02 16:36   ` Shawn Starr
@ 2009-11-03 10:55     ` Takashi Iwai
  2009-11-03 19:30       ` Shawn Starr
  2011-04-18 23:40       ` Shawn Starr
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Takashi Iwai @ 2009-11-03 10:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Shawn Starr; +Cc: alsa-devel

At Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:36:21 -0500,
Shawn Starr wrote:
> 
> On November 2, 2009 08:05:37 am Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > At Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:59:40 -0400,
> > 
> > Shawn Starr wrote:
> > > Hello ALSA developers,
> > >
> > > I am having problems with the microphone on the following hardware this
> > > is on a Lenovo W500 laptop.
> > >
> > > Card: HDA Intel
> > > Chip: Conexant CX20561 (Hermosa)
> > >
> > > Here is the problems im noticing:
> > >
> > > 1) If I use ALSA 'default' with the microphone I get noise interference
> > > on output [high/low/high/low].
> > >
> > > If I switch this to use the "ALSA Capture on HDA Intel [CONEXANT Analog]
> > > I get interference except it is the standard 60Hz electrical noise
> > > [steady noise]
> > >
> > > 2) Using the internal/external microphones gives an inconsistent volume.
> > > It also does not seem to work with the microphone cutting out so much. I
> > > need to adjust Digital + another microphone but it still drops capturing.
> > >
> > > Alsamixer shows:  Digital/Docking Microphone/External Microphone/Internal
> > > Microphone
> > >
> > > Here is the module options I give to the sound driver:
> > >
> > > options snd-intel-hda enable_msi=1 power_save=10
> > > power_save_controller=true model=laptop index=0
> > >
> > > Assuming power saving/controller causes the microphone to cut out or not.
> > >
> > > 3) I'm now aware that this card has no pinouts for PCM capture
> > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502293
> > 
> > Could you give alsa-info.sh output?  Run with --no-upload option, and
> > attach the generated file.
> > 
> Here's the attached output, 

Judging from the pin config, in your case, "Docking" seems controlling
the external-mic volume.  The "External Mic Volume" should be zero.


Takashi

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread

* Re: Conexant CX20561 - Microphone problems
  2009-11-03 10:55     ` Takashi Iwai
@ 2009-11-03 19:30       ` Shawn Starr
  2009-11-05  7:47         ` Takashi Iwai
  2011-04-18 23:40       ` Shawn Starr
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Shawn Starr @ 2009-11-03 19:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel; +Cc: Takashi Iwai

On November 3, 2009 05:55:07 am Takashi Iwai wrote:
> At Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:36:21 -0500,
> 
> Shawn Starr wrote:
> > On November 2, 2009 08:05:37 am Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > At Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:59:40 -0400,
> > >
> > > Shawn Starr wrote:
> > > > Hello ALSA developers,
> > > >
> > > > I am having problems with the microphone on the following hardware
> > > > this is on a Lenovo W500 laptop.
> > > >
> > > > Card: HDA Intel
> > > > Chip: Conexant CX20561 (Hermosa)
> > > >
> > > > Here is the problems im noticing:
> > > >
> > > > 1) If I use ALSA 'default' with the microphone I get noise
> > > > interference on output [high/low/high/low].
> > > >
> > > > If I switch this to use the "ALSA Capture on HDA Intel [CONEXANT
> > > > Analog] I get interference except it is the standard 60Hz electrical
> > > > noise [steady noise]
> > > >
> > > > 2) Using the internal/external microphones gives an inconsistent
> > > > volume. It also does not seem to work with the microphone cutting out
> > > > so much. I need to adjust Digital + another microphone but it still
> > > > drops capturing.
> > > >
> > > > Alsamixer shows:  Digital/Docking Microphone/External
> > > > Microphone/Internal Microphone
> > > >
> > > > Here is the module options I give to the sound driver:
> > > >
> > > > options snd-intel-hda enable_msi=1 power_save=10
> > > > power_save_controller=true model=laptop index=0
> > > >
> > > > Assuming power saving/controller causes the microphone to cut out or
> > > > not.
> > > >
> > > > 3) I'm now aware that this card has no pinouts for PCM capture
> > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502293
> > >
> > > Could you give alsa-info.sh output?  Run with --no-upload option, and
> > > attach the generated file.
> >
> > Here's the attached output,
> 
> Judging from the pin config, in your case, "Docking" seems controlling
> the external-mic volume.  The "External Mic Volume" should be zero.
> 
There is still problems with the volume sensitivity,  but I will adjust to set 
ext mic to zero. Do we need a quirk for the Lenovo W500 then?

Or that's a bug wrt to volume sensitivity and static interferences?

Thanks, 
Shawn.

> 
> Takashi
> _______________________________________________
> Alsa-devel mailing list
> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> 

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread

* Re: Conexant CX20561 - Microphone problems
  2009-11-03 19:30       ` Shawn Starr
@ 2009-11-05  7:47         ` Takashi Iwai
  2009-11-05  8:48           ` Shawn Starr
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Takashi Iwai @ 2009-11-05  7:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Shawn Starr; +Cc: alsa-devel

At Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:30:15 -0500,
Shawn Starr wrote:
> 
> On November 3, 2009 05:55:07 am Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > At Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:36:21 -0500,
> > 
> > Shawn Starr wrote:
> > > On November 2, 2009 08:05:37 am Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > > At Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:59:40 -0400,
> > > >
> > > > Shawn Starr wrote:
> > > > > Hello ALSA developers,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am having problems with the microphone on the following hardware
> > > > > this is on a Lenovo W500 laptop.
> > > > >
> > > > > Card: HDA Intel
> > > > > Chip: Conexant CX20561 (Hermosa)
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is the problems im noticing:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) If I use ALSA 'default' with the microphone I get noise
> > > > > interference on output [high/low/high/low].
> > > > >
> > > > > If I switch this to use the "ALSA Capture on HDA Intel [CONEXANT
> > > > > Analog] I get interference except it is the standard 60Hz electrical
> > > > > noise [steady noise]
> > > > >
> > > > > 2) Using the internal/external microphones gives an inconsistent
> > > > > volume. It also does not seem to work with the microphone cutting out
> > > > > so much. I need to adjust Digital + another microphone but it still
> > > > > drops capturing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Alsamixer shows:  Digital/Docking Microphone/External
> > > > > Microphone/Internal Microphone
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is the module options I give to the sound driver:
> > > > >
> > > > > options snd-intel-hda enable_msi=1 power_save=10
> > > > > power_save_controller=true model=laptop index=0
> > > > >
> > > > > Assuming power saving/controller causes the microphone to cut out or
> > > > > not.
> > > > >
> > > > > 3) I'm now aware that this card has no pinouts for PCM capture
> > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502293
> > > >
> > > > Could you give alsa-info.sh output?  Run with --no-upload option, and
> > > > attach the generated file.
> > >
> > > Here's the attached output,
> > 
> > Judging from the pin config, in your case, "Docking" seems controlling
> > the external-mic volume.  The "External Mic Volume" should be zero.
> > 
> There is still problems with the volume sensitivity,  but I will adjust to set 
> ext mic to zero. Do we need a quirk for the Lenovo W500 then?

Looks so.  Though, the SSID is identical with X200.
I'm wondering whether X200 works fine as is or not...

> Or that's a bug wrt to volume sensitivity and static interferences?

The mic boost volumes are missing in these quirks.
You can adjust manually via hda-verb, e.g.

	hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x1d SET_AMP 0x7003

for the built-in mic, and

	hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x18 SET_AMP 0x7003

for the mic jack.  Change the value between 0x7000 and 0x7004.


Takashi

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread

* Re: Conexant CX20561 - Microphone problems
  2009-11-05  7:47         ` Takashi Iwai
@ 2009-11-05  8:48           ` Shawn Starr
  2009-11-05  9:09             ` Shawn Starr
  2009-11-05 10:15             ` Takashi Iwai
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Shawn Starr @ 2009-11-05  8:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel; +Cc: Takashi Iwai

On November 5, 2009 02:47:19 am Takashi Iwai wrote:
> At Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:30:15 -0500,
> 
> Shawn Starr wrote:
> > On November 3, 2009 05:55:07 am Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > At Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:36:21 -0500,
> > >
> > > Shawn Starr wrote:
> > > > On November 2, 2009 08:05:37 am Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > > > At Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:59:40 -0400,
> > > > >
> > > > > Shawn Starr wrote:
> > > > > > Hello ALSA developers,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am having problems with the microphone on the following
> > > > > > hardware this is on a Lenovo W500 laptop.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Card: HDA Intel
> > > > > > Chip: Conexant CX20561 (Hermosa)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here is the problems im noticing:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1) If I use ALSA 'default' with the microphone I get noise
> > > > > > interference on output [high/low/high/low].
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If I switch this to use the "ALSA Capture on HDA Intel [CONEXANT
> > > > > > Analog] I get interference except it is the standard 60Hz
> > > > > > electrical noise [steady noise]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2) Using the internal/external microphones gives an inconsistent
> > > > > > volume. It also does not seem to work with the microphone cutting
> > > > > > out so much. I need to adjust Digital + another microphone but it
> > > > > > still drops capturing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Alsamixer shows:  Digital/Docking Microphone/External
> > > > > > Microphone/Internal Microphone
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here is the module options I give to the sound driver:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > options snd-intel-hda enable_msi=1 power_save=10
> > > > > > power_save_controller=true model=laptop index=0
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Assuming power saving/controller causes the microphone to cut out
> > > > > > or not.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3) I'm now aware that this card has no pinouts for PCM capture
> > > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502293
> > > > >
> > > > > Could you give alsa-info.sh output?  Run with --no-upload option,
> > > > > and attach the generated file.
> > > >
> > > > Here's the attached output,
> > >
> > > Judging from the pin config, in your case, "Docking" seems controlling
> > > the external-mic volume.  The "External Mic Volume" should be zero.
> >
> > There is still problems with the volume sensitivity,  but I will adjust
> > to set ext mic to zero. Do we need a quirk for the Lenovo W500 then?
> 
> Looks so.  Though, the SSID is identical with X200.
> I'm wondering whether X200 works fine as is or not...
> 
> > Or that's a bug wrt to volume sensitivity and static interferences?
> 
> The mic boost volumes are missing in these quirks.
> You can adjust manually via hda-verb, e.g.
> 
> 	hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x1d SET_AMP 0x7003
> 
> for the built-in mic, and
> 
> 	hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x18 SET_AMP 0x7003
> 
> for the mic jack.  Change the value between 0x7000 and 0x7004.
> 
> 
> Takashi
Will try to adjust those. I tried the X200, but it didn't make any difference.

Thanks, 
Shawn.

>_______________________________________________
> Alsa-devel mailing list
> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> 

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread

* Re: Conexant CX20561 - Microphone problems
  2009-11-05  8:48           ` Shawn Starr
@ 2009-11-05  9:09             ` Shawn Starr
  2009-11-05  9:26               ` Shawn Starr
  2009-11-05 10:15             ` Takashi Iwai
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Shawn Starr @ 2009-11-05  9:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel; +Cc: Takashi Iwai

On November 5, 2009 03:48:37 am Shawn Starr wrote:
> On November 5, 2009 02:47:19 am Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > At Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:30:15 -0500,
> >
> > Shawn Starr wrote:
> > > On November 3, 2009 05:55:07 am Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > > At Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:36:21 -0500,
> > > >
> > > > Shawn Starr wrote:
> > > > > On November 2, 2009 08:05:37 am Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > > > > At Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:59:40 -0400,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Shawn Starr wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello ALSA developers,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am having problems with the microphone on the following
> > > > > > > hardware this is on a Lenovo W500 laptop.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Card: HDA Intel
> > > > > > > Chip: Conexant CX20561 (Hermosa)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Here is the problems im noticing:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1) If I use ALSA 'default' with the microphone I get noise
> > > > > > > interference on output [high/low/high/low].
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If I switch this to use the "ALSA Capture on HDA Intel
> > > > > > > [CONEXANT Analog] I get interference except it is the standard
> > > > > > > 60Hz electrical noise [steady noise]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2) Using the internal/external microphones gives an
> > > > > > > inconsistent volume. It also does not seem to work with the
> > > > > > > microphone cutting out so much. I need to adjust Digital +
> > > > > > > another microphone but it still drops capturing.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Alsamixer shows:  Digital/Docking Microphone/External
> > > > > > > Microphone/Internal Microphone
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Here is the module options I give to the sound driver:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > options snd-intel-hda enable_msi=1 power_save=10
> > > > > > > power_save_controller=true model=laptop index=0
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Assuming power saving/controller causes the microphone to cut
> > > > > > > out or not.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 3) I'm now aware that this card has no pinouts for PCM capture
> > > > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502293
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Could you give alsa-info.sh output?  Run with --no-upload option,
> > > > > > and attach the generated file.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here's the attached output,
> > > >
> > > > Judging from the pin config, in your case, "Docking" seems
> > > > controlling the external-mic volume.  The "External Mic Volume"
> > > > should be zero.
> > >
> > > There is still problems with the volume sensitivity,  but I will adjust
> > > to set ext mic to zero. Do we need a quirk for the Lenovo W500 then?
> >
> > Looks so.  Though, the SSID is identical with X200.
> > I'm wondering whether X200 works fine as is or not...
> >
> > > Or that's a bug wrt to volume sensitivity and static interferences?
> >
> > The mic boost volumes are missing in these quirks.
> > You can adjust manually via hda-verb, e.g.
> >
> > 	hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x1d SET_AMP 0x7003
> >
> > for the built-in mic, and
> >
> > 	hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x18 SET_AMP 0x7003
> >
> > for the mic jack.  Change the value between 0x7000 and 0x7004.
> >
> >
> > Takashi
> 
> Will try to adjust those. I tried the X200, but it didn't make any
>  difference.
> 

I set the mic boost volume quirk, that did adjust the loudness, so it doesn't 
seem to be cutting out anymore. So it looks like that problem is fixed with 
the quirk.

Would you like me to provide you a sound recording indicating the interference  
I hear when using the microphone?

Thanks, 
Shawn.

> Thanks,
> Shawn.
> 
> >_______________________________________________
> > Alsa-devel mailing list
> > Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> > http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> 
> _______________________________________________
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^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread

* Re: Conexant CX20561 - Microphone problems
  2009-11-05  9:09             ` Shawn Starr
@ 2009-11-05  9:26               ` Shawn Starr
  2009-11-05 10:16                 ` Takashi Iwai
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Shawn Starr @ 2009-11-05  9:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel; +Cc: Takashi Iwai

On November 5, 2009 04:09:23 am Shawn Starr wrote:
> On November 5, 2009 03:48:37 am Shawn Starr wrote:
> > On November 5, 2009 02:47:19 am Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > At Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:30:15 -0500,
> > >
> > > Shawn Starr wrote:
> > > > On November 3, 2009 05:55:07 am Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > > > At Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:36:21 -0500,
> > > > >
> > > > > Shawn Starr wrote:
> > > > > > On November 2, 2009 08:05:37 am Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > > > > > At Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:59:40 -0400,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Shawn Starr wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hello ALSA developers,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I am having problems with the microphone on the following
> > > > > > > > hardware this is on a Lenovo W500 laptop.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Card: HDA Intel
> > > > > > > > Chip: Conexant CX20561 (Hermosa)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Here is the problems im noticing:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1) If I use ALSA 'default' with the microphone I get noise
> > > > > > > > interference on output [high/low/high/low].
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If I switch this to use the "ALSA Capture on HDA Intel
> > > > > > > > [CONEXANT Analog] I get interference except it is the
> > > > > > > > standard 60Hz electrical noise [steady noise]
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2) Using the internal/external microphones gives an
> > > > > > > > inconsistent volume. It also does not seem to work with the
> > > > > > > > microphone cutting out so much. I need to adjust Digital +
> > > > > > > > another microphone but it still drops capturing.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Alsamixer shows:  Digital/Docking Microphone/External
> > > > > > > > Microphone/Internal Microphone
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Here is the module options I give to the sound driver:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > options snd-intel-hda enable_msi=1 power_save=10
> > > > > > > > power_save_controller=true model=laptop index=0
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Assuming power saving/controller causes the microphone to cut
> > > > > > > > out or not.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 3) I'm now aware that this card has no pinouts for PCM
> > > > > > > > capture https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502293
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Could you give alsa-info.sh output?  Run with --no-upload
> > > > > > > option, and attach the generated file.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here's the attached output,
> > > > >
> > > > > Judging from the pin config, in your case, "Docking" seems
> > > > > controlling the external-mic volume.  The "External Mic Volume"
> > > > > should be zero.
> > > >
> > > > There is still problems with the volume sensitivity,  but I will
> > > > adjust to set ext mic to zero. Do we need a quirk for the Lenovo W500
> > > > then?
> > >
> > > Looks so.  Though, the SSID is identical with X200.
> > > I'm wondering whether X200 works fine as is or not...
> > >
> > > > Or that's a bug wrt to volume sensitivity and static interferences?
> > >
> > > The mic boost volumes are missing in these quirks.
> > > You can adjust manually via hda-verb, e.g.
> > >
> > > 	hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x1d SET_AMP 0x7003
> > >
> > > for the built-in mic, and
> > >
> > > 	hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x18 SET_AMP 0x7003
> > >
> > > for the mic jack.  Change the value between 0x7000 and 0x7004.
> > >
> > >
> > > Takashi
> >
> > Will try to adjust those. I tried the X200, but it didn't make any
> >  difference.
> 
> I set the mic boost volume quirk, that did adjust the loudness, so it
>  doesn't seem to be cutting out anymore. So it looks like that problem is
>  fixed with the quirk.
> 
> Would you like me to provide you a sound recording indicating the
>  interference I hear when using the microphone?
> 
The interference is coming from: ALSA Capture on default (seems to be the 
digital device), yet HDA Intel [CONEXANT Analog] has no such interference.

I suppose I could make an .asoundrc and force default to use the Analog device 
vs the digital one.


> Thanks,
> Shawn.
> 
> > Thanks,
> > Shawn.
> >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > > Alsa-devel mailing list
> > > Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> > > http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Alsa-devel mailing list
> > Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> > http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Alsa-devel mailing list
> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> 

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* Re: Conexant CX20561 - Microphone problems
  2009-11-05  8:48           ` Shawn Starr
  2009-11-05  9:09             ` Shawn Starr
@ 2009-11-05 10:15             ` Takashi Iwai
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Takashi Iwai @ 2009-11-05 10:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Shawn Starr; +Cc: alsa-devel

At Thu, 5 Nov 2009 03:48:37 -0500,
Shawn Starr wrote:
> 
> On November 5, 2009 02:47:19 am Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > At Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:30:15 -0500,
> > 
> > Shawn Starr wrote:
> > > On November 3, 2009 05:55:07 am Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > > At Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:36:21 -0500,
> > > >
> > > > Shawn Starr wrote:
> > > > > On November 2, 2009 08:05:37 am Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > > > > At Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:59:40 -0400,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Shawn Starr wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello ALSA developers,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am having problems with the microphone on the following
> > > > > > > hardware this is on a Lenovo W500 laptop.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Card: HDA Intel
> > > > > > > Chip: Conexant CX20561 (Hermosa)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Here is the problems im noticing:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1) If I use ALSA 'default' with the microphone I get noise
> > > > > > > interference on output [high/low/high/low].
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If I switch this to use the "ALSA Capture on HDA Intel [CONEXANT
> > > > > > > Analog] I get interference except it is the standard 60Hz
> > > > > > > electrical noise [steady noise]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2) Using the internal/external microphones gives an inconsistent
> > > > > > > volume. It also does not seem to work with the microphone cutting
> > > > > > > out so much. I need to adjust Digital + another microphone but it
> > > > > > > still drops capturing.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Alsamixer shows:  Digital/Docking Microphone/External
> > > > > > > Microphone/Internal Microphone
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Here is the module options I give to the sound driver:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > options snd-intel-hda enable_msi=1 power_save=10
> > > > > > > power_save_controller=true model=laptop index=0
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Assuming power saving/controller causes the microphone to cut out
> > > > > > > or not.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 3) I'm now aware that this card has no pinouts for PCM capture
> > > > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502293
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Could you give alsa-info.sh output?  Run with --no-upload option,
> > > > > > and attach the generated file.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here's the attached output,
> > > >
> > > > Judging from the pin config, in your case, "Docking" seems controlling
> > > > the external-mic volume.  The "External Mic Volume" should be zero.
> > >
> > > There is still problems with the volume sensitivity,  but I will adjust
> > > to set ext mic to zero. Do we need a quirk for the Lenovo W500 then?
> > 
> > Looks so.  Though, the SSID is identical with X200.
> > I'm wondering whether X200 works fine as is or not...
> > 
> > > Or that's a bug wrt to volume sensitivity and static interferences?
> > 
> > The mic boost volumes are missing in these quirks.
> > You can adjust manually via hda-verb, e.g.
> > 
> > 	hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x1d SET_AMP 0x7003
> > 
> > for the built-in mic, and
> > 
> > 	hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x18 SET_AMP 0x7003
> > 
> > for the mic jack.  Change the value between 0x7000 and 0x7004.
> > 
> > 
> > Takashi
> Will try to adjust those. I tried the X200, but it didn't make any difference.

So you have Lenovo X200 laptop, too?
That's nice, so we can avoid the regression if we change the x200
quirk code.


Takashi

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* Re: Conexant CX20561 - Microphone problems
  2009-11-05  9:26               ` Shawn Starr
@ 2009-11-05 10:16                 ` Takashi Iwai
       [not found]                   ` <200911050634.36742.shawn.starr@rogers.com>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Takashi Iwai @ 2009-11-05 10:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Shawn Starr; +Cc: alsa-devel

At Thu, 5 Nov 2009 04:26:49 -0500,
Shawn Starr wrote:
> 
> On November 5, 2009 04:09:23 am Shawn Starr wrote:
> > On November 5, 2009 03:48:37 am Shawn Starr wrote:
> > > On November 5, 2009 02:47:19 am Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > > At Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:30:15 -0500,
> > > >
> > > > Shawn Starr wrote:
> > > > > On November 3, 2009 05:55:07 am Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > > > > At Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:36:21 -0500,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Shawn Starr wrote:
> > > > > > > On November 2, 2009 08:05:37 am Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > > > > > > At Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:59:40 -0400,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Shawn Starr wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hello ALSA developers,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I am having problems with the microphone on the following
> > > > > > > > > hardware this is on a Lenovo W500 laptop.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Card: HDA Intel
> > > > > > > > > Chip: Conexant CX20561 (Hermosa)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Here is the problems im noticing:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1) If I use ALSA 'default' with the microphone I get noise
> > > > > > > > > interference on output [high/low/high/low].
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If I switch this to use the "ALSA Capture on HDA Intel
> > > > > > > > > [CONEXANT Analog] I get interference except it is the
> > > > > > > > > standard 60Hz electrical noise [steady noise]
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 2) Using the internal/external microphones gives an
> > > > > > > > > inconsistent volume. It also does not seem to work with the
> > > > > > > > > microphone cutting out so much. I need to adjust Digital +
> > > > > > > > > another microphone but it still drops capturing.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Alsamixer shows:  Digital/Docking Microphone/External
> > > > > > > > > Microphone/Internal Microphone
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Here is the module options I give to the sound driver:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > options snd-intel-hda enable_msi=1 power_save=10
> > > > > > > > > power_save_controller=true model=laptop index=0
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Assuming power saving/controller causes the microphone to cut
> > > > > > > > > out or not.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 3) I'm now aware that this card has no pinouts for PCM
> > > > > > > > > capture https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502293
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Could you give alsa-info.sh output?  Run with --no-upload
> > > > > > > > option, and attach the generated file.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Here's the attached output,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Judging from the pin config, in your case, "Docking" seems
> > > > > > controlling the external-mic volume.  The "External Mic Volume"
> > > > > > should be zero.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is still problems with the volume sensitivity,  but I will
> > > > > adjust to set ext mic to zero. Do we need a quirk for the Lenovo W500
> > > > > then?
> > > >
> > > > Looks so.  Though, the SSID is identical with X200.
> > > > I'm wondering whether X200 works fine as is or not...
> > > >
> > > > > Or that's a bug wrt to volume sensitivity and static interferences?
> > > >
> > > > The mic boost volumes are missing in these quirks.
> > > > You can adjust manually via hda-verb, e.g.
> > > >
> > > > 	hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x1d SET_AMP 0x7003
> > > >
> > > > for the built-in mic, and
> > > >
> > > > 	hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x18 SET_AMP 0x7003
> > > >
> > > > for the mic jack.  Change the value between 0x7000 and 0x7004.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Takashi
> > >
> > > Will try to adjust those. I tried the X200, but it didn't make any
> > >  difference.
> > 
> > I set the mic boost volume quirk, that did adjust the loudness, so it
> >  doesn't seem to be cutting out anymore. So it looks like that problem is
> >  fixed with the quirk.
> > 
> > Would you like me to provide you a sound recording indicating the
> >  interference I hear when using the microphone?
> > 
> The interference is coming from: ALSA Capture on default (seems to be the 
> digital device), yet HDA Intel [CONEXANT Analog] has no such interference.

I don't understand what you mean here at all....


Takashi

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* Re: Conexant CX20561 - Microphone problems
       [not found]                   ` <200911050634.36742.shawn.starr@rogers.com>
@ 2009-11-05 11:42                     ` Takashi Iwai
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Takashi Iwai @ 2009-11-05 11:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Shawn Starr; +Cc: alsa-devel

At Thu, 5 Nov 2009 06:34:36 -0500,
Shawn Starr wrote:
> 
> > > The interference is coming from: ALSA Capture on default (seems to be the
> > > digital device), yet HDA Intel [CONEXANT Analog] has no such
> > > interference.
> > 
> > I don't understand what you mean here at all....
> > 
> I'm not understanding what 'default' is in this case.  How many capture 
> (microphone) inputs does this device have?   It really seems strange to me 
> that one capture input has so much interference.  I just don't know what it is 
> using.
> 
> **** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices ****
> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: CONEXANT Analog [CONEXANT Analog]
>   Subdevices: 0/1
>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

So, you have only this PCM stream for capture.


> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: CONEXANT Analog [CONEXANT Analog]
>   Subdevices: 0/1
>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: Conexant Digital [Conexant Digital]
>   Subdevices: 1/1
>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

These are for playback, not capture.


Takashi

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* Re: Conexant CX20561 - Microphone problems
  2009-11-03 10:55     ` Takashi Iwai
  2009-11-03 19:30       ` Shawn Starr
@ 2011-04-18 23:40       ` Shawn Starr
  2011-04-19  6:44         ` Takashi Iwai
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Shawn Starr @ 2011-04-18 23:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel; +Cc: Takashi Iwai

On Tuesday, November 03, 2009 11:55:07 AM Takashi Iwai wrote:
> At Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:36:21 -0500,
> 
> Shawn Starr wrote:
> > On November 2, 2009 08:05:37 am Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > At Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:59:40 -0400,
> > > 
> > > Shawn Starr wrote:
> > > > Hello ALSA developers,
> > > > 
> > > > I am having problems with the microphone on the following
> > > > hardware this is on a Lenovo W500 laptop.
> > > > 
> > > > Card: HDA Intel
> > > > Chip: Conexant CX20561 (Hermosa)
> > > > 
> > > > Here is the problems im noticing:
> > > > 
> > > > 1) If I use ALSA 'default' with the microphone I get noise
> > > > interference on output [high/low/high/low].
> > > > 
> > > > If I switch this to use the "ALSA Capture on HDA Intel [CONEXANT
> > > > Analog] I get interference except it is the standard 60Hz
> > > > electrical noise [steady noise]
> > > > 
> > > > 2) Using the internal/external microphones gives an inconsistent
> > > > volume. It also does not seem to work with the microphone
> > > > cutting out so much. I need to adjust Digital + another
> > > > microphone but it still drops capturing.
> > > > 
> > > > Alsamixer shows:  Digital/Docking Microphone/External
> > > > Microphone/Internal Microphone
> > > > 
> > > > Here is the module options I give to the sound driver:
> > > > 
> > > > options snd-intel-hda enable_msi=1 power_save=10
> > > > power_save_controller=true model=laptop index=0
> > > > 
> > > > Assuming power saving/controller causes the microphone to cut
> > > > out or not.
> > > > 
> > > > 3) I'm now aware that this card has no pinouts for PCM capture
> > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502293
> > > 
> > > Could you give alsa-info.sh output?  Run with --no-upload option,
> > > and
> > > attach the generated file.
> > 
> > Here's the attached output,
> 
> Judging from the pin config, in your case, "Docking" seems controlling
> the external-mic volume.  The "External Mic Volume" should be zero.
> 

alsacontrol shows two 'Internal Mic' options and two 'Docking Mic' options, no 
External Mic option visible?

Now using: 2.6.39-0.rc3.git2.0.fc16.x86_64

While this laptop can use a docking port, I have none, although the BIOS does 
give an option to enable docking ports, I guess those don't do anything unless 
you actually dock the laptop?

Shawn.

> 
> Takashi
> _______________________________________________
> Alsa-devel mailing list
> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel

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* Re: Conexant CX20561 - Microphone problems
  2011-04-18 23:40       ` Shawn Starr
@ 2011-04-19  6:44         ` Takashi Iwai
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Takashi Iwai @ 2011-04-19  6:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Shawn Starr; +Cc: alsa-devel

At Mon, 18 Apr 2011 19:40:26 -0400,
Shawn Starr wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday, November 03, 2009 11:55:07 AM Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > At Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:36:21 -0500,
> > 
> > Shawn Starr wrote:
> > > On November 2, 2009 08:05:37 am Takashi Iwai wrote:
> > > > At Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:59:40 -0400,
> > > > 
> > > > Shawn Starr wrote:
> > > > > Hello ALSA developers,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am having problems with the microphone on the following
> > > > > hardware this is on a Lenovo W500 laptop.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Card: HDA Intel
> > > > > Chip: Conexant CX20561 (Hermosa)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Here is the problems im noticing:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 1) If I use ALSA 'default' with the microphone I get noise
> > > > > interference on output [high/low/high/low].
> > > > > 
> > > > > If I switch this to use the "ALSA Capture on HDA Intel [CONEXANT
> > > > > Analog] I get interference except it is the standard 60Hz
> > > > > electrical noise [steady noise]
> > > > > 
> > > > > 2) Using the internal/external microphones gives an inconsistent
> > > > > volume. It also does not seem to work with the microphone
> > > > > cutting out so much. I need to adjust Digital + another
> > > > > microphone but it still drops capturing.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Alsamixer shows:  Digital/Docking Microphone/External
> > > > > Microphone/Internal Microphone
> > > > > 
> > > > > Here is the module options I give to the sound driver:
> > > > > 
> > > > > options snd-intel-hda enable_msi=1 power_save=10
> > > > > power_save_controller=true model=laptop index=0
> > > > > 
> > > > > Assuming power saving/controller causes the microphone to cut
> > > > > out or not.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 3) I'm now aware that this card has no pinouts for PCM capture
> > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502293
> > > > 
> > > > Could you give alsa-info.sh output?  Run with --no-upload option,
> > > > and
> > > > attach the generated file.
> > > 
> > > Here's the attached output,
> > 
> > Judging from the pin config, in your case, "Docking" seems controlling
> > the external-mic volume.  The "External Mic Volume" should be zero.
> > 
> 
> alsacontrol shows two 'Internal Mic' options and two 'Docking Mic' options, no 
> External Mic option visible?
> 
> Now using: 2.6.39-0.rc3.git2.0.fc16.x86_64
> 
> While this laptop can use a docking port, I have none, although the BIOS does 
> give an option to enable docking ports, I guess those don't do anything unless 
> you actually dock the laptop?

Just try model=hp.  This corresponds to a model without the
docking-station.


Takashi

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