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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Miro Hodak <mhodak127@gmail.com>
Cc: "Raymond Yau" <superquad.vortex2@gmail.com>,
	basinilya@gmail.com, "Manolo Díaz" <diaz.manolo@gmail.com>,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
Subject: Re: HD-audio regression after commit 34588709af61be1550b4e2bcee5c85d0ac4f34d4
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 09:18:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5h8v7nymn7.wl%tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+S_cwqzWHf92zXj3gFHHB+SAr_7o=Z+70FMh39nKoxzvBXZRA@mail.gmail.com>

At Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:54:39 -0500,
Miro Hodak wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 6:11 AM, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> 
> > At Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:33:52 -0500,
> > Miro Hodak wrote:
> > >
> > > Testing latest updates in sound-unstable:
> > >
> > > commit f741c8a1f649379f8f3eb81119df2676c46075cf
> > > Merge: d821c1e 164a7ad
> > > Author: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
> > > Date:   Fri Jan 18 18:30:00 2013 +0100
> > >
> > > Playback and capture appear to work correctly with one possible caveats:
> > >
> > > Item labeled "Front" controls the level of sound through the speakers. I
> > > would expect that it would only control sound from front HP. This happens
> > > whether Independent HP is on and off.
> >
> > When you look at other controls, there are "Surround", "Center", and
> > "LFE", and these are mixer controls for other two line-out jacks.
> > In that sense, "Front" is corresponding to the same group, the line
> > out jack.
> >
> > You have an individual "Headphone" output.  Isn't it obvious?
> >
> >
> > Takashi
> >
> 
> Not always, most labels are one word long and can be open to different
> interpretations. In alsamixer, ordering of capture controls is the
> following:
> 
> Master  Headphon   PCM     Front   Front Mi  Surround  Center    LFE
> Side  Line Boo  S/PDIF  S/PDIF D Auto-Mut Independ <Rear Mic>
> 
> and thus "Front" is next to "Front Mi" - that should connect at the front I
> assume - rather then to other outputs at the back. Thus it is very easy to
> get confused.

I see.  Yes, the usage of the word "front" has been a problem since
long time ago, basically because it can mean two different things: the
position of the jack and the channel location.  But, this has been so,
thus it's no regression to fix urgently.


> Here are outputs as specified in my MB manual and my attempt to pair them
> to items in alsamixer (Capture only):
> 
> MB description                                   Alsa control (capture)
> BACK PORTS:
> Line In                                                  Line Boost (its
> boost only, I know)
> Front Speaker Out                             Front
> Mic In                                                   Rear Mic Boost
> Center/Subwoofer                             Center
> Rear Speaker Out                             ???
> Side Speaker Out                              Side
> 
> FRONT PORTS:
> Headphone Out                                Headphone
> Front Mic In                                        Front Mic Boost
> 
> There are two items that have not been assigned - Surround and LFE,
> presumably one of them should correspond to the "Rear Speaker Out" for
> which I could not identify ALSA control. Not being familiar with more than
> 2-channle audio, I do not know how to assign these.

"Surround" corresponds to the rear channel in ALSA term.
"LFE" is a more official name of subwoofer.


Takashi

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-01-21  8:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-13 18:05 HD-audio regression after commit 34588709af61be1550b4e2bcee5c85d0ac4f34d4 Miro Hodak
2013-01-14  3:42 ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-14 11:03   ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-14 13:46     ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-14 14:18       ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-15  7:59         ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-16  2:04           ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-16  6:47             ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-16  7:19               ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-16  7:24                 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-14 11:37   ` Clemens Ladisch
2013-01-14 12:31   ` Manolo Díaz
2013-01-14 12:48     ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-14 12:59       ` Manolo Díaz
2013-01-14 13:03         ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-14 13:10           ` Manolo Díaz
2013-01-14 16:23           ` Manolo Díaz
2013-01-15  0:42             ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-15  8:53               ` Manolo Díaz
2013-01-16  1:52                 ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-16  8:49                   ` Manolo Díaz
2013-01-16  8:54                     ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-16 12:37                       ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-16 12:39                       ` Manolo Díaz
2013-01-16 12:54                         ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-16 13:04                           ` Manolo Díaz
2013-01-16 13:16                             ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-16 13:55                               ` Manolo Díaz
2013-01-16 14:20                                 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-17  3:51                                   ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-17  6:30                                     ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-17  6:40                                       ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-17  6:49                                         ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-17  8:10                                           ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-17  9:04                                             ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-17  9:24                                               ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-17  9:29                                                 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-17  9:42                                                   ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-17  9:55                                                     ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-17 10:17                                                       ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-17 10:21                                                         ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-17 10:32                                                           ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-17 11:09                                                             ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-17 12:49                                                             ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-17 14:59                                                               ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-17 15:29                                                                 ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-17 15:33                                                                   ` hda_analyzer (was: Re: HD-audio regression after commit 34588709af61be1550b4e2bcee5c85d0ac4f34d4) David Henningsson
2013-01-17 15:32                                                                 ` HD-audio regression after commit 34588709af61be1550b4e2bcee5c85d0ac4f34d4 Takashi Iwai
2013-01-17 18:12                                                                   ` Manolo Díaz
2013-01-17 19:51                                                                     ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-17 21:12                                                                       ` ALSA versions versus kernel versions Daniel Griscom
2013-01-17 20:16                                                                     ` HD-audio regression after commit 34588709af61be1550b4e2bcee5c85d0ac4f34d4 Takashi Iwai
     [not found]                                                                       ` <20130117214043.5a1574ee@gmail.com>
2013-01-18  4:20                                                                         ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-18  7:04                                                                         ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-18  7:31                                                                           ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-18  8:08                                                                             ` Manolo Díaz
2013-01-18  8:14                                                                               ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-18 10:17                                                                                 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-18 12:37                                                                                   ` Manolo Díaz
2013-01-18 13:49                                                                                     ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-18 14:49                                                                                       ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-18 15:30                                                                                         ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-18 16:48                                                                                           ` Manolo Díaz
2013-01-18 16:58                                                                                             ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-18 17:51                                                                                               ` Manolo Díaz
2013-01-18 18:20                                                                                                 ` Manolo Díaz
2013-01-18 18:45                                                                                                   ` Takashi Iwai
     [not found]                                                                                                     ` <CA+S_cwrH6mjunDsn2w76Vpyk7XovOKpH0k_KoU_8SXjmisLAYw@mail.gmail.com>
2013-01-19  5:49                                                                                                       ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-19 11:12                                                                                                         ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-19 11:11                                                                                                       ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-20 19:54                                                                                                         ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-21  4:01                                                                                                           ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-21  8:18                                                                                                           ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2013-01-21  8:54                                                                                                             ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-21  9:18                                                                                                               ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-21 17:08                                                                                                                 ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-21 17:29                                                                                                                   ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-21 17:44                                                                                                                     ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-21 19:11                                                                                                                       ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-21 20:21                                                                                                                         ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-22  7:05                                                                                                                           ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-22  8:14                                                                                                                             ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-22  8:58                                                                                                                               ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-22 10:06                                                                                                                                 ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-22 10:12                                                                                                                                   ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-19  2:39                                                                                           ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-19 11:09                                                                                             ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-19 12:37                                                                                               ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-19 16:56                                                                                                 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-18  7:43                                             ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-15  7:27             ` Takashi Iwai

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