From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Miro Hodak <mhodak127@gmail.com>
Cc: "Raymond Yau" <superquad.vortex2@gmail.com>,
basinilya@gmail.com, "Manolo Díaz" <diaz.manolo@gmail.com>,
alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
Subject: Re: HD-audio regression after commit 34588709af61be1550b4e2bcee5c85d0ac4f34d4
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 09:18:36 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5h8v7nymn7.wl%tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+S_cwqzWHf92zXj3gFHHB+SAr_7o=Z+70FMh39nKoxzvBXZRA@mail.gmail.com>
At Sun, 20 Jan 2013 14:54:39 -0500,
Miro Hodak wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 6:11 AM, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
>
> > At Sat, 19 Jan 2013 00:33:52 -0500,
> > Miro Hodak wrote:
> > >
> > > Testing latest updates in sound-unstable:
> > >
> > > commit f741c8a1f649379f8f3eb81119df2676c46075cf
> > > Merge: d821c1e 164a7ad
> > > Author: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
> > > Date: Fri Jan 18 18:30:00 2013 +0100
> > >
> > > Playback and capture appear to work correctly with one possible caveats:
> > >
> > > Item labeled "Front" controls the level of sound through the speakers. I
> > > would expect that it would only control sound from front HP. This happens
> > > whether Independent HP is on and off.
> >
> > When you look at other controls, there are "Surround", "Center", and
> > "LFE", and these are mixer controls for other two line-out jacks.
> > In that sense, "Front" is corresponding to the same group, the line
> > out jack.
> >
> > You have an individual "Headphone" output. Isn't it obvious?
> >
> >
> > Takashi
> >
>
> Not always, most labels are one word long and can be open to different
> interpretations. In alsamixer, ordering of capture controls is the
> following:
>
> Master Headphon PCM Front Front Mi Surround Center LFE
> Side Line Boo S/PDIF S/PDIF D Auto-Mut Independ <Rear Mic>
>
> and thus "Front" is next to "Front Mi" - that should connect at the front I
> assume - rather then to other outputs at the back. Thus it is very easy to
> get confused.
I see. Yes, the usage of the word "front" has been a problem since
long time ago, basically because it can mean two different things: the
position of the jack and the channel location. But, this has been so,
thus it's no regression to fix urgently.
> Here are outputs as specified in my MB manual and my attempt to pair them
> to items in alsamixer (Capture only):
>
> MB description Alsa control (capture)
> BACK PORTS:
> Line In Line Boost (its
> boost only, I know)
> Front Speaker Out Front
> Mic In Rear Mic Boost
> Center/Subwoofer Center
> Rear Speaker Out ???
> Side Speaker Out Side
>
> FRONT PORTS:
> Headphone Out Headphone
> Front Mic In Front Mic Boost
>
> There are two items that have not been assigned - Surround and LFE,
> presumably one of them should correspond to the "Rear Speaker Out" for
> which I could not identify ALSA control. Not being familiar with more than
> 2-channle audio, I do not know how to assign these.
"Surround" corresponds to the rear channel in ALSA term.
"LFE" is a more official name of subwoofer.
Takashi
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Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-01-13 18:05 HD-audio regression after commit 34588709af61be1550b4e2bcee5c85d0ac4f34d4 Miro Hodak
2013-01-14 3:42 ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-14 11:03 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-14 13:46 ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-14 14:18 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-15 7:59 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-16 2:04 ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-16 6:47 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-16 7:19 ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-16 7:24 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-14 11:37 ` Clemens Ladisch
2013-01-14 12:31 ` Manolo Díaz
2013-01-14 12:48 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-14 12:59 ` Manolo Díaz
2013-01-14 13:03 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-14 13:10 ` Manolo Díaz
2013-01-14 16:23 ` Manolo Díaz
2013-01-15 0:42 ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-15 8:53 ` Manolo Díaz
2013-01-16 1:52 ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-16 8:49 ` Manolo Díaz
2013-01-16 8:54 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-16 12:37 ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-16 12:39 ` Manolo Díaz
2013-01-16 12:54 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-16 13:04 ` Manolo Díaz
2013-01-16 13:16 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-16 13:55 ` Manolo Díaz
2013-01-16 14:20 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-17 3:51 ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-17 6:30 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-17 6:40 ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-17 6:49 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-17 8:10 ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-17 9:04 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-17 9:24 ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-17 9:29 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-17 9:42 ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-17 9:55 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-17 10:17 ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-17 10:21 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-17 10:32 ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-17 11:09 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-17 12:49 ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-17 14:59 ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-17 15:29 ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-17 15:33 ` hda_analyzer (was: Re: HD-audio regression after commit 34588709af61be1550b4e2bcee5c85d0ac4f34d4) David Henningsson
2013-01-17 15:32 ` HD-audio regression after commit 34588709af61be1550b4e2bcee5c85d0ac4f34d4 Takashi Iwai
2013-01-17 18:12 ` Manolo Díaz
2013-01-17 19:51 ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-17 21:12 ` ALSA versions versus kernel versions Daniel Griscom
2013-01-17 20:16 ` HD-audio regression after commit 34588709af61be1550b4e2bcee5c85d0ac4f34d4 Takashi Iwai
[not found] ` <20130117214043.5a1574ee@gmail.com>
2013-01-18 4:20 ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-18 7:04 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-18 7:31 ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-18 8:08 ` Manolo Díaz
2013-01-18 8:14 ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-18 10:17 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-18 12:37 ` Manolo Díaz
2013-01-18 13:49 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-18 14:49 ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-18 15:30 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-18 16:48 ` Manolo Díaz
2013-01-18 16:58 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-18 17:51 ` Manolo Díaz
2013-01-18 18:20 ` Manolo Díaz
2013-01-18 18:45 ` Takashi Iwai
[not found] ` <CA+S_cwrH6mjunDsn2w76Vpyk7XovOKpH0k_KoU_8SXjmisLAYw@mail.gmail.com>
2013-01-19 5:49 ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-19 11:12 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-19 11:11 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-20 19:54 ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-21 4:01 ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-21 8:18 ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2013-01-21 8:54 ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-21 9:18 ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-21 17:08 ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-21 17:29 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-21 17:44 ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-21 19:11 ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-21 20:21 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-22 7:05 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-22 8:14 ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-22 8:58 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-22 10:06 ` Miro Hodak
2013-01-22 10:12 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-19 2:39 ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-19 11:09 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-19 12:37 ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-19 16:56 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-01-18 7:43 ` Raymond Yau
2013-01-15 7:27 ` Takashi Iwai
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