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From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Slava Dubeyko <Vyacheslav.Dubeyko@wdc.com>,
	"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	Viacheslav Dubeyko <slava@dubeyko.com>,
	"linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Lsf-pc] [LSF/MM TOPIC] Badblocks checking/representation in filesystems
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 15:39:17 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x49r3406r2i.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170118101641.GD24789@quack2.suse.cz> (Jan Kara's message of "Wed, 18 Jan 2017 11:16:41 +0100")

Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> writes:

> On Tue 17-01-17 15:14:21, Vishal Verma wrote:
>> Your note on the online repair does raise another tangentially related
>> topic. Currently, if there are badblocks, writes via the bio submission
>> path will clear the error (if the hardware is able to remap the bad
>> locations). However, if the filesystem is mounted eith DAX, even
>> non-mmap operations - read() and write() will go through the dax paths
>> (dax_do_io()). We haven't found a good/agreeable way to perform
>> error-clearing in this case. So currently, if a dax mounted filesystem
>> has badblocks, the only way to clear those badblocks is to mount it
>> without DAX, and overwrite/zero the bad locations. This is a pretty
>> terrible user experience, and I'm hoping this can be solved in a better
>> way.
>
> Please remind me, what is the problem with DAX code doing necessary work to
> clear the error when it gets EIO from memcpy on write?

You won't get an MCE for a store;  only loads generate them.

Won't fallocate FL_ZERO_RANGE clear bad blocks when mounted with -o dax?

Cheers,
Jeff
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From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Vishal Verma <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
	Slava Dubeyko <Vyacheslav.Dubeyko@wdc.com>,
	"linux-nvdimm\@lists.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org>,
	"linux-block\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	Viacheslav Dubeyko <slava@dubeyko.com>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"lsf-pc\@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Lsf-pc] [LSF/MM TOPIC] Badblocks checking/representation in filesystems
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 15:39:17 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x49r3406r2i.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170118101641.GD24789@quack2.suse.cz> (Jan Kara's message of "Wed, 18 Jan 2017 11:16:41 +0100")

Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> writes:

> On Tue 17-01-17 15:14:21, Vishal Verma wrote:
>> Your note on the online repair does raise another tangentially related
>> topic. Currently, if there are badblocks, writes via the bio submission
>> path will clear the error (if the hardware is able to remap the bad
>> locations). However, if the filesystem is mounted eith DAX, even
>> non-mmap operations - read() and write() will go through the dax paths
>> (dax_do_io()). We haven't found a good/agreeable way to perform
>> error-clearing in this case. So currently, if a dax mounted filesystem
>> has badblocks, the only way to clear those badblocks is to mount it
>> without DAX, and overwrite/zero the bad locations. This is a pretty
>> terrible user experience, and I'm hoping this can be solved in a better
>> way.
>
> Please remind me, what is the problem with DAX code doing necessary work to
> clear the error when it gets EIO from memcpy on write?

You won't get an MCE for a store;  only loads generate them.

Won't fallocate FL_ZERO_RANGE clear bad blocks when mounted with -o dax?

Cheers,
Jeff

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-18 20:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <at1mp6pou4lenesjdgh22k4p.1484345585589@email.android.com>
     [not found] ` <b9rbflutjt10mb4ofherta8j.1484345610771@email.android.com>
2017-01-14  0:00   ` [LSF/MM TOPIC] Badblocks checking/representation in filesystems Slava Dubeyko
2017-01-14  0:00     ` Slava Dubeyko
2017-01-14  0:00     ` Slava Dubeyko
2017-01-14  0:49     ` Vishal Verma
2017-01-14  0:49       ` Vishal Verma
2017-01-16  2:27       ` Slava Dubeyko
2017-01-16  2:27         ` Slava Dubeyko
2017-01-16  2:27         ` Slava Dubeyko
2017-01-17 14:37         ` [Lsf-pc] " Jan Kara
2017-01-17 14:37           ` Jan Kara
2017-01-17 15:08           ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-17 15:08             ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-17 22:14           ` Vishal Verma
2017-01-17 22:14             ` Vishal Verma
2017-01-18 10:16             ` Jan Kara
2017-01-18 10:16               ` Jan Kara
2017-01-18 20:39               ` Jeff Moyer [this message]
2017-01-18 20:39                 ` Jeff Moyer
2017-01-18 21:02                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-01-18 21:02                   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-01-18 21:32                   ` Dan Williams
2017-01-18 21:32                     ` Dan Williams
     [not found]                     ` <CAPcyv4hd7bpCa7d9msX0Y8gLz7WsqXT3VExQwwLuAcsmMxVTPg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-18 21:56                       ` Verma, Vishal L
2017-01-18 21:56                         ` Verma, Vishal L
2017-01-18 21:56                         ` Verma, Vishal L
     [not found]                         ` <1484776549.4358.33.camel-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-19  8:10                           ` Jan Kara
2017-01-19  8:10                             ` Jan Kara
     [not found]                             ` <20170119081011.GA2565-4I4JzKEfoa/jFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-19 18:59                               ` Vishal Verma
2017-01-19 18:59                                 ` Vishal Verma
     [not found]                                 ` <20170119185910.GF4880-PxNA6LsHknajYZd8rzuJLNh3ngVCH38I@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-19 19:03                                   ` Dan Williams
2017-01-19 19:03                                     ` Dan Williams
     [not found]                                     ` <CAPcyv4jZz_iqLutd0gPEL3udqbFxvBH8CZY5oDgUjG5dGbC2gg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-20  9:03                                       ` Jan Kara
2017-01-20  9:03                                         ` Jan Kara
2017-01-17 23:15           ` Slava Dubeyko
2017-01-17 23:15             ` Slava Dubeyko
2017-01-17 23:15             ` Slava Dubeyko
2017-01-18 20:47             ` Jeff Moyer
2017-01-18 20:47               ` Jeff Moyer
2017-01-19  2:56               ` Slava Dubeyko
2017-01-19  2:56                 ` Slava Dubeyko
2017-01-19  2:56                 ` Slava Dubeyko
2017-01-19 19:33                 ` Jeff Moyer
2017-01-19 19:33                   ` Jeff Moyer
2017-01-17  6:33       ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-01-17  6:33         ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-01-17 21:35         ` Vishal Verma
2017-01-17 21:35           ` Vishal Verma
2017-01-17 22:15           ` Andiry Xu
2017-01-17 22:15             ` Andiry Xu
2017-01-17 22:37             ` Vishal Verma
2017-01-17 22:37               ` Vishal Verma
2017-01-17 23:20               ` Andiry Xu
2017-01-17 23:20                 ` Andiry Xu
2017-01-17 23:51                 ` Vishal Verma
2017-01-17 23:51                   ` Vishal Verma
2017-01-18  1:58                   ` Andiry Xu
2017-01-18  1:58                     ` Andiry Xu
     [not found]                     ` <CAOvWMLZCt39EDg-1uppVVUeRG40JvOo9sKLY2XMuynZdnc0W9w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-20  0:32                       ` Verma, Vishal L
2017-01-20  0:32                         ` Verma, Vishal L
2017-01-20  0:32                         ` Verma, Vishal L
2017-01-18  9:38               ` [Lsf-pc] " Jan Kara
2017-01-18  9:38                 ` Jan Kara
2017-01-19 21:17                 ` Vishal Verma
2017-01-19 21:17                   ` Vishal Verma
2017-01-20  9:47                   ` Jan Kara
2017-01-20  9:47                     ` Jan Kara
2017-01-20 15:42                     ` Dan Williams
2017-01-20 15:42                       ` Dan Williams
2017-01-24  7:46                       ` Jan Kara
2017-01-24  7:46                         ` Jan Kara
2017-01-24 19:59                         ` Vishal Verma
2017-01-24 19:59                           ` Vishal Verma
2017-01-18  0:16             ` Andreas Dilger
2017-01-18  2:01               ` Andiry Xu
2017-01-18  2:01                 ` Andiry Xu
2017-01-18  3:08                 ` Lu Zhang
2017-01-18  3:08                   ` Lu Zhang
2017-01-20  0:46                   ` Vishal Verma
2017-01-20  0:46                     ` Vishal Verma
2017-01-20  9:24                     ` Yasunori Goto
2017-01-20  9:24                       ` Yasunori Goto
     [not found]                       ` <20170120182435.0E12.E1E9C6FF-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-21  0:23                         ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-01-21  0:23                           ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-01-21  0:23                           ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-01-20  0:55                 ` Verma, Vishal L
2017-01-20  0:55                   ` Verma, Vishal L

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