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From: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
To: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
Cc: Chaitanya Kulkarni <Chaitanya.Kulkarni@wdc.com>,
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	Matias Bjorling <Matias.Bjorling@wdc.com>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BFP ATTEND] [LSF/MM/BFP TOPIC] Storage: Copy Offload
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 00:33:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq1pnfrx4d4.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fda88fd3-2d75-085e-ca15-a29f89c1e781@acm.org> (Bart Van Assche's message of "Wed, 8 Jan 2020 19:18:54 -0800")


Bart,

> * Copying must be supported not only within a single storage device but
>   also between storage devices.

Identifying which devices to permit copies between has been challenging.
That has since been addressed in T10.

> * VMware, which uses XCOPY (with a one-byte length ID, aka LID1).

I don't think LID1 vs LID4 is particularly interesting for the Linux use
case. It's just an additional command tag since the copy manager is a
third party.

> * Microsoft, which uses ODX (aka LID4 because it has a four-byte length
>   ID).

Microsoft uses the token commands.

-- 
Martin K. Petersen	Oracle Linux Engineering

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From: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
To: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
Cc: "axboe@kernel.dk" <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	"roland@purestorage.com" <roland@purestorage.com>,
	"msnitzer@redhat.com" <msnitzer@redhat.com>,
	Chaitanya Kulkarni <Chaitanya.Kulkarni@wdc.com>,
	"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Matias Bjorling <Matias.Bjorling@wdc.com>,
	"linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org" <linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org>,
	Stephen Bates <sbates@raithlin.com>,
	"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	"dm-devel@redhat.com" <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
	"mpatocka@redhat.com" <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	"hare@suse.de" <hare@suse.de>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	"lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"rwheeler@redhat.com" <rwheeler@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	"frederick.knight@netapp.com" <frederick.knight@netapp.com>,
	"zach.brown@ni.com" <zach.brown@ni.com>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BFP ATTEND] [LSF/MM/BFP TOPIC] Storage: Copy Offload
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 00:33:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq1pnfrx4d4.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fda88fd3-2d75-085e-ca15-a29f89c1e781@acm.org> (Bart Van Assche's message of "Wed, 8 Jan 2020 19:18:54 -0800")


Bart,

> * Copying must be supported not only within a single storage device but
>   also between storage devices.

Identifying which devices to permit copies between has been challenging.
That has since been addressed in T10.

> * VMware, which uses XCOPY (with a one-byte length ID, aka LID1).

I don't think LID1 vs LID4 is particularly interesting for the Linux use
case. It's just an additional command tag since the copy manager is a
third party.

> * Microsoft, which uses ODX (aka LID4 because it has a four-byte length
>   ID).

Microsoft uses the token commands.

-- 
Martin K. Petersen	Oracle Linux Engineering

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From: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
To: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
Cc: "axboe@kernel.dk" <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	"roland@purestorage.com" <roland@purestorage.com>,
	"msnitzer@redhat.com" <msnitzer@redhat.com>,
	Chaitanya Kulkarni <Chaitanya.Kulkarni@wdc.com>,
	"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Matias Bjorling <Matias.Bjorling@wdc.com>,
	"linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org" <linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org>,
	Stephen Bates <sbates@raithlin.com>,
	"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	"dm-devel@redhat.com" <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
	"mpatocka@redhat.com" <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	"lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"rwheeler@redhat.com" <rwheeler@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	"frederick.knight@netapp.com" <frederick.knight@netapp.com>,
	"zach.brown@ni.com" <zach.brown@ni.com>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BFP ATTEND] [LSF/MM/BFP TOPIC] Storage: Copy Offload
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2020 00:33:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq1pnfrx4d4.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fda88fd3-2d75-085e-ca15-a29f89c1e781@acm.org> (Bart Van Assche's message of "Wed, 8 Jan 2020 19:18:54 -0800")


Bart,

> * Copying must be supported not only within a single storage device but
>   also between storage devices.

Identifying which devices to permit copies between has been challenging.
That has since been addressed in T10.

> * VMware, which uses XCOPY (with a one-byte length ID, aka LID1).

I don't think LID1 vs LID4 is particularly interesting for the Linux use
case. It's just an additional command tag since the copy manager is a
third party.

> * Microsoft, which uses ODX (aka LID4 because it has a four-byte length
>   ID).

Microsoft uses the token commands.

-- 
Martin K. Petersen	Oracle Linux Engineering

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-01-10  5:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2020-01-07 18:14 ` [LSF/MM/BFP ATTEND] [LSF/MM/BFP TOPIC] Storage: Copy Offload Chaitanya Kulkarni
2020-01-07 18:14   ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2020-01-07 18:14   ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2020-01-08 10:17   ` Javier González
2020-01-08 10:17     ` Javier González
2020-01-08 10:17     ` Javier González
2020-01-09  0:51     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-01-09  0:51       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-01-09  0:51       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-01-09  3:18   ` Bart Van Assche
2020-01-09  3:18     ` Bart Van Assche
2020-01-09  3:18     ` Bart Van Assche
2020-01-09  4:01     ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2020-01-09  4:01       ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2020-01-09  4:01       ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2020-01-09  5:56     ` Damien Le Moal
2020-01-09  5:56       ` Damien Le Moal
2020-01-09  5:56       ` Damien Le Moal
2020-01-10  5:33     ` Martin K. Petersen [this message]
2020-01-10  5:33       ` Martin K. Petersen
2020-01-10  5:33       ` Martin K. Petersen
2020-01-24 14:23   ` Nikos Tsironis
2020-01-24 14:23     ` Nikos Tsironis
2020-01-24 14:23     ` Nikos Tsironis
2020-02-13  5:11   ` joshi.k
2020-02-13  5:11     ` joshi.k
2020-02-13  5:11     ` joshi.k
2020-02-13 13:09     ` Knight, Frederick
2020-02-13 13:09       ` Knight, Frederick
2020-02-13 13:09       ` Knight, Frederick
2021-05-11  0:15 Chaitanya Kulkarni
2021-05-11  0:15 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2021-05-11 21:15 ` Knight, Frederick
2021-05-11 21:15   ` Knight, Frederick
2021-05-12  2:21 ` Bart Van Assche
2021-05-12  2:21   ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found] ` <CGME20210512071321eucas1p2ca2253e90449108b9f3e4689bf8e0512@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2021-05-12  7:13   ` Javier González
2021-05-12  7:13     ` Javier González
2021-05-12  7:30 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2021-05-12  7:30   ` Johannes Thumshirn
     [not found]   ` <CGME20210928191342eucas1p23448dcd51b23495fa67cdc017e77435c@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2021-09-28 19:13     ` Javier González
2021-09-28 19:13       ` Javier González
2021-09-29  6:44       ` Johannes Thumshirn
2021-09-29  6:44         ` Johannes Thumshirn
2021-09-30  9:43       ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2021-09-30  9:43         ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2021-09-30  9:53         ` Javier González
2021-09-30  9:53           ` Javier González
2021-10-06 10:01         ` Javier González
2021-10-06 10:01           ` Javier González
2021-10-13  8:35           ` Javier González
2021-10-13  8:35             ` Javier González
2021-09-30 16:20       ` Bart Van Assche
2021-09-30 16:20         ` Bart Van Assche
2021-10-06 10:05         ` Javier González
2021-10-06 10:05           ` Javier González
2021-10-06 17:33           ` Bart Van Assche
2021-10-06 17:33             ` Bart Van Assche
2021-10-08  6:49             ` Javier González
2021-10-08  6:49               ` Javier González
2021-10-29  0:21               ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2021-10-29  5:51                 ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-10-29  8:16                   ` Javier González
2021-10-29 16:15                   ` Bart Van Assche
2021-11-01 17:54                     ` Keith Busch
2021-10-29  8:14                 ` Javier González
2021-11-03 19:27                   ` Javier González
2021-11-16 13:43                     ` Javier González
2021-11-16 17:59                       ` Bart Van Assche
2021-11-17 12:53                         ` Javier González
2021-11-17 15:52                           ` Bart Van Assche
2021-11-19  7:38                             ` Javier González
2021-11-19 10:47                       ` Kanchan Joshi
2021-11-19 15:51                         ` Keith Busch
2021-11-19 16:21                         ` Bart Van Assche
2021-11-22  7:39                       ` Kanchan Joshi
2021-05-12 15:23 ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-05-12 15:23   ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-05-12 15:45 ` Himanshu Madhani
2021-05-12 15:45   ` Himanshu Madhani
2021-05-17 16:39 ` Kanchan Joshi
2021-05-17 16:39   ` Kanchan Joshi
2021-05-18  0:15 ` Bart Van Assche
2021-05-18  0:15   ` Bart Van Assche
2021-06-11  6:03 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2021-06-11  6:03   ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2021-06-11 15:35 ` Nikos Tsironis
2021-06-11 15:35   ` Nikos Tsironis
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2022-01-27  7:14 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-01-28 19:59   ` Adam Manzanares
2022-01-31 11:49     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2022-01-31 19:03   ` Bart Van Assche
2022-02-01  1:54   ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-02-01 10:21   ` Javier González
2022-02-07  9:57     ` Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-02  5:57   ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-02-07 10:45   ` David Disseldorp
2022-03-01 17:34   ` Nikos Tsironis
2022-03-01 21:32     ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-03-03 18:36       ` Nikos Tsironis
2022-03-08 20:48       ` Nikos Tsironis
2022-03-09  8:51         ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-03-09 15:49           ` Nikos Tsironis
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2023-01-13  9:46 ` Nitesh Shetty

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