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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Finn Thain <fthain@telegraphics.com.au>
Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Stephen N Chivers <schivers@csc.com.au>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 13/13] m68k: mvme16x: Convert to clocksource APIy
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 18:12:46 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1811181759330.9459@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.21.1811140925270.371@nippy.intranet>

Finn,

On Wed, 14 Nov 2018, Finn Thain wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2018, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > Urgh. Then you have more serious trouble. If the interrupting handler 
> > calls any of the time accessor functions then you can actually live lock 
> > when the interrupt happens in the middle of the write locked section of 
> > the core timekeeping update.
> 
> Does this apply to arch_gettimeoffset also? If so, that would mean another 
> bug fix patch for -stable...

arch_gettimeoffset() can be called from any context. The only interrupt
which can affect it is the timer interrupt. As m68k are all UP machines
this is not a problem because:

  ktime_get()
     do {
        seq = read_seqcount_begin(tk.seq);
	nsec = .... + arch_gettimeoffset();
     } while (seqcount_retry(tk.seq);

and the timer interrupt does:

  arch_timeoffset += value;
  ...
    xtime_update()
      ...
        write_seqcount_begin(tk.seq);
        ....
        write_seqcount_end(tk.seq);

So where ever the timer interrupt hits inside of ktime_get() or any other
accessor the seqcount will make it retry, so the result is always
consistent.

For SMP that would be a different story.

> > So you really want to disable interrupts across the whole timer 
> > interrupt function or make sure that the timer interrupt is the highest 
> > priority one on the system.
> > 
> 
> The timer interrupt priority isn't always what one would hope. 
> 
> But I can certainly disable interrupts for timer_interrupt() execution 
> (that is, xtime_update() etc.)

Oh yes, you should.

Thanks,

	tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-18 17:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-12  4:12 [RFC PATCH 00/13] m68k: Drop arch_gettimeoffset and adopt clocksource API Finn Thain
2018-11-12  4:12 ` [RFC PATCH 08/13] m68k: atari: Convert to " Finn Thain
2018-11-12  4:12 ` [RFC PATCH 04/13] m68k: mac: Clean up unused timer definitions Finn Thain
2018-11-12  4:12 ` [RFC PATCH 10/13] m68k: hp300: Convert to clocksource API Finn Thain
2018-11-12  4:12 ` [RFC PATCH 11/13] m68k: mac: " Finn Thain
2018-11-12  4:12 ` [RFC PATCH 01/13] arm: Fix mutual exclusion in arch_gettimeoffset Finn Thain
2018-11-12  4:12   ` Finn Thain
2018-11-12  8:34   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-12  8:34     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-13  3:39     ` Finn Thain
2018-11-13  3:39       ` Finn Thain
2018-11-13  9:20       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-11-13  9:20         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-11-13 21:55         ` Finn Thain
2018-11-13 21:55           ` Finn Thain
2018-11-13 23:43           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-11-13 23:43             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-11-14  1:35             ` Michael Schmitz
2018-11-14  1:35               ` Michael Schmitz
2018-11-14  7:58               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-11-14  7:58                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-11-15  1:34                 ` Michael Schmitz
2018-11-15  1:34                   ` Michael Schmitz
2018-11-14  3:17             ` Finn Thain
2018-11-14  3:17               ` Finn Thain
2018-11-14 14:16               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-11-14 14:16                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-11-14 14:58                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-11-14 14:58                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-11-14 18:11                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-11-14 18:11                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-11-15  4:12                 ` Finn Thain
2018-11-15  4:12                   ` Finn Thain
2018-11-16 17:47                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-11-16 17:47                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-11-16 22:49                     ` Finn Thain
2018-11-16 22:49                       ` Finn Thain
2018-11-17  3:00                       ` Michael Schmitz
2018-11-17  3:00                         ` Michael Schmitz
2018-11-14 12:05   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-11-14 12:05     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-11-12  4:12 ` [RFC PATCH 02/13] m68k: " Finn Thain
2018-11-12  4:12 ` [RFC PATCH 07/13] m68k: amiga: Convert to clocksource API Finn Thain
2018-11-12  9:02   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-11-12  9:21     ` Finn Thain
2018-11-12  4:12 ` [RFC PATCH 09/13] m68k: bvme6000: " Finn Thain
2018-11-12  4:12 ` [RFC PATCH 06/13] m68k: Drop ARCH_USES_GETTIMEOFFSET Finn Thain
2018-11-12  9:00   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-11-12  9:06     ` Finn Thain
2018-11-13  2:29       ` Michael Schmitz
2018-11-13  3:14         ` Finn Thain
2018-11-13  4:50           ` Michael Schmitz
2018-11-13  6:15             ` Finn Thain
2018-11-13  8:24               ` Michael Schmitz
2018-11-13 22:11                 ` Finn Thain
2018-11-14  1:08                   ` Michael Schmitz
2018-11-14  2:58                     ` Michael Schmitz
2018-11-14 23:54                       ` Michael Schmitz
2018-11-15  4:37                         ` Finn Thain
2018-11-15  6:35                         ` Michael Schmitz
2018-11-16  0:04                           ` Finn Thain
2018-11-12  4:12 ` [RFC PATCH 13/13] m68k: mvme16x: Convert to clocksource API Finn Thain
2018-11-12 18:37   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-13  0:11     ` Finn Thain
2018-11-13 22:04       ` Finn Thain
2018-11-13 22:10         ` [RFC PATCH 13/13] m68k: mvme16x: Convert to clocksource APIy Thomas Gleixner
2018-11-13 22:33           ` Finn Thain
2018-11-18 17:12             ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2018-11-12  4:12 ` [RFC PATCH 03/13] m68k: mac: Fix VIA timer counter accesses Finn Thain
2018-11-12  4:12 ` [RFC PATCH 12/13] m68k: mvme147: Convert to clocksource API Finn Thain
2018-11-12  4:12 ` [RFC PATCH 05/13] m68k: apollo, q40, sun3, sun3x: Remove arch_gettimeoffset implementations Finn Thain

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