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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Daniel Walker <dwalker@fifo99.com>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.ml.walleij@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Victor <linux@maxim.org.za>,
	Haavard Skinnemoen <hskinnemoen@atmel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	John Stultz <johnstul@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: sched_clock() clocksource handling.
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:17:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0906022216230.3419@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1243928495.23657.5642.camel@twins>

On Tue, 2 Jun 2009, Peter Zijlstra wrote:

> On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 16:35 +0900, Paul Mundt wrote:
> > 
> > We already do via select_clocksource(), if we are unregistering the
> > current one then a new one with the flag set is selected. Before that,
> > the override is likewise given preference, and we fall back on jiffies if
> > there is nothing else. I suppose we could try and find the "best" one,
> > but I think the override and manual clocksource selection should be fine
> > for this.
> 
> Ah, ok. So unregister calls select_clocksource again? That does leave us
> a small window with jiffies, but I guess that's ok.
> 
> > Now that you mention it though, the sched_clocksource() assignment within
> > select_clocksource() happens underneath the clocksource_lock, but is not
> > using rcu_assign_pointer().
> 
> Right, that would want fixing indeed.
> 
> >  If the assignment there needs to use
> > rcu_assign_pointer() then presumably all of the unlock paths that do
> > select_clocksource() will have to synchronize_rcu()?
> 
> No, you only have to do sync_rcu() when stuff that could have referenced
> is going away and you cannot use call_rcu().
> 
> So when selecting a new clocksource, you don't need synchonization
> because stuff doesn't go away (I think :-)

Hmm, no. In the unregister case stuff _IS_ going away. That's why you
unregister in the first place, right ?

Thanks,

	tglx



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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Daniel Walker <dwalker@fifo99.com>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.ml.walleij@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Victor <linux@maxim.org.za>,
	Haavard Skinnemoen <hskinnemoen@atmel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	John Stultz <johnstul@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: sched_clock() clocksource handling.
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:17:23 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0906022216230.3419@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1243928495.23657.5642.camel@twins>

On Tue, 2 Jun 2009, Peter Zijlstra wrote:

> On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 16:35 +0900, Paul Mundt wrote:
> > 
> > We already do via select_clocksource(), if we are unregistering the
> > current one then a new one with the flag set is selected. Before that,
> > the override is likewise given preference, and we fall back on jiffies if
> > there is nothing else. I suppose we could try and find the "best" one,
> > but I think the override and manual clocksource selection should be fine
> > for this.
> 
> Ah, ok. So unregister calls select_clocksource again? That does leave us
> a small window with jiffies, but I guess that's ok.
> 
> > Now that you mention it though, the sched_clocksource() assignment within
> > select_clocksource() happens underneath the clocksource_lock, but is not
> > using rcu_assign_pointer().
> 
> Right, that would want fixing indeed.
> 
> >  If the assignment there needs to use
> > rcu_assign_pointer() then presumably all of the unlock paths that do
> > select_clocksource() will have to synchronize_rcu()?
> 
> No, you only have to do sync_rcu() when stuff that could have referenced
> is going away and you cannot use call_rcu().
> 
> So when selecting a new clocksource, you don't need synchonization
> because stuff doesn't go away (I think :-)

Hmm, no. In the unregister case stuff _IS_ going away. That's why you
unregister in the first place, right ?

Thanks,

	tglx



  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-06-02 20:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-02  7:17 [PATCH] sched: sched_clock() clocksource handling Paul Mundt
2009-06-02  7:17 ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-02  7:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-02  7:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-02  7:35   ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-02  7:35     ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-02  7:41     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-02  7:41       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-02  7:54       ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-02  7:54         ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-02  8:00         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-02  8:00           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-02  8:00           ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-02  8:00             ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-02 11:49         ` Daniel Walker
2009-06-02 11:49           ` Daniel Walker
2009-06-02 20:21           ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-06-02 20:21             ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-06-03  3:36           ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-03  3:36             ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-03 14:58             ` Daniel Walker
2009-06-03 14:58               ` Daniel Walker
2009-06-02 12:26         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-02 12:26           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-02 20:17       ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2009-06-02 20:17         ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-06-03  3:39         ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-03  3:39           ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-02 14:17 ` Rabin Vincent
2009-06-02 14:29   ` Rabin Vincent
2009-06-02 14:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-02 14:25     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-02 22:24 ` john stultz
2009-06-02 22:24   ` john stultz
2009-06-03  7:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-03  7:03     ` Peter Zijlstra

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