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From: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>
To: "Mickaël Salaün" <mic@digikod.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	David Drysdale <drysdale@google.com>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric W . Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	James Morris <james.l.morris@oracle.com>,
	Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	Sargun Dhillon <sargun@sargun.me>,
	"Serge E . Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>, Will Drewry <wad@chromium.org>,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH net-next v7 00/10] Landlock LSM: Toward unprivileged sandboxing
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 13:38:26 +1000 (AEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.20.1708281335290.8842@namei.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170821000933.13024-1-mic@digikod.net>

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On Mon, 21 Aug 2017, Mickaël Salaün wrote:

> ## Why a new LSM? Are SELinux, AppArmor, Smack and Tomoyo not good enough?
> 
> The current access control LSMs are fine for their purpose which is to give the
> *root* the ability to enforce a security policy for the *system*. What is
> missing is a way to enforce a security policy for any application by its
> developer and *unprivileged user* as seccomp can do for raw syscall filtering.
> 

You could mention here that the first case is Mandatory Access Control, 
in general terms.



-- 
James Morris
<jmorris@namei.org>

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From: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>
To: "Mickaël Salaün" <mic@digikod.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	David Drysdale <drysdale@google.com>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric W . Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	James Morris <james.l.morris@oracle.com>,
	Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	Sargun Dhillon <sargun@sargun.me>,
	"Serge E . Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>,
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v7 00/10] Landlock LSM: Toward unprivileged sandboxing
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 13:38:26 +1000 (AEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.20.1708281335290.8842@namei.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170821000933.13024-1-mic@digikod.net>

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On Mon, 21 Aug 2017, Mickaël Salaün wrote:

> ## Why a new LSM? Are SELinux, AppArmor, Smack and Tomoyo not good enough?
> 
> The current access control LSMs are fine for their purpose which is to give the
> *root* the ability to enforce a security policy for the *system*. What is
> missing is a way to enforce a security policy for any application by its
> developer and *unprivileged user* as seccomp can do for raw syscall filtering.
> 

You could mention here that the first case is Mandatory Access Control, 
in general terms.



-- 
James Morris
<jmorris@namei.org>

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From: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>
To: "Mickaël Salaün" <mic@digikod.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	David Drysdale <drysdale@google.com>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric W . Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	James Morris <james.l.morris@oracle.com>,
	Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	Sargun Dhillon <sargun@sargun.me>,
	"Serge E . Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v7 00/10] Landlock LSM: Toward unprivileged sandboxing
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 13:38:26 +1000 (AEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.20.1708281335290.8842@namei.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170821000933.13024-1-mic@digikod.net>

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On Mon, 21 Aug 2017, Mickaël Salaün wrote:

> ## Why a new LSM? Are SELinux, AppArmor, Smack and Tomoyo not good enough?
> 
> The current access control LSMs are fine for their purpose which is to give the
> *root* the ability to enforce a security policy for the *system*. What is
> missing is a way to enforce a security policy for any application by its
> developer and *unprivileged user* as seccomp can do for raw syscall filtering.
> 

You could mention here that the first case is Mandatory Access Control, 
in general terms.



-- 
James Morris
<jmorris@namei.org>

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: jmorris@namei.org (James Morris)
To: linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH net-next v7 00/10] Landlock LSM: Toward unprivileged sandboxing
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 13:38:26 +1000 (AEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.20.1708281335290.8842@namei.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170821000933.13024-1-mic@digikod.net>

On Mon, 21 Aug 2017, Micka?l Sala?n wrote:

> ## Why a new LSM? Are SELinux, AppArmor, Smack and Tomoyo not good enough?
> 
> The current access control LSMs are fine for their purpose which is to give the
> *root* the ability to enforce a security policy for the *system*. What is
> missing is a way to enforce a security policy for any application by its
> developer and *unprivileged user* as seccomp can do for raw syscall filtering.
> 

You could mention here that the first case is Mandatory Access Control, 
in general terms.



-- 
James Morris
<jmorris@namei.org>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-08-28  3:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 146+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-21  0:09 [PATCH net-next v7 00/10] Landlock LSM: Toward unprivileged sandboxing Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09 ` [kernel-hardening] " Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09 ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09 ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09 ` [PATCH net-next v7 01/10] selftest: Enhance kselftest_harness.h with a step mechanism Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09   ` [kernel-hardening] " Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09   ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09   ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-24  2:31   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-24  2:31     ` [kernel-hardening] " Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-24  2:31     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-24  2:31     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-25  7:58     ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-25  7:58       ` [kernel-hardening] " Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-25  7:58       ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-25  7:58       ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-26  1:07       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-26  1:07         ` [kernel-hardening] " Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-26  1:07         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-26  1:07         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-26  1:07         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-28 18:01         ` Shuah Khan
2017-08-28 18:01           ` [kernel-hardening] " Shuah Khan
2017-08-28 18:01           ` Shuah Khan
2017-08-28 18:01           ` Shuah Khan
2017-08-28 18:01           ` Shuah Khan
2017-08-21  0:09 ` [PATCH net-next v7 02/10] bpf: Add eBPF program subtype and is_valid_subtype() verifier Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09   ` [kernel-hardening] " Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09   ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09   ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-23  2:44   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-23  2:44     ` [kernel-hardening] " Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-23  2:44     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-23  2:44     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-23  2:44     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-23  7:45     ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-23  7:45       ` [kernel-hardening] " Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-23  7:45       ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-23  7:45       ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-24  1:22       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-24  1:22         ` [kernel-hardening] " Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-24  1:22         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-24  1:22         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-24  1:22         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-28  3:48       ` [kernel-hardening] " James Morris
2017-08-28  3:48         ` James Morris
2017-08-28  3:48         ` James Morris
2017-08-28  3:48         ` James Morris
2017-08-28  3:46     ` James Morris
2017-08-28  3:46       ` [kernel-hardening] " James Morris
2017-08-28  3:46       ` James Morris
2017-08-28  3:46       ` James Morris
2017-08-21  0:09 ` [PATCH net-next v7 03/10] bpf,landlock: Define an eBPF program type for a Landlock rule Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09   ` [kernel-hardening] " Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09   ` [PATCH net-next v7 03/10] bpf, landlock: " Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09   ` [PATCH net-next v7 03/10] bpf,landlock: " Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-24  2:28   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-24  2:28     ` [kernel-hardening] " Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-24  2:28     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-24  2:28     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-25  8:02     ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-25  8:02       ` [kernel-hardening] " Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-25  8:02       ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-25  8:02       ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09 ` [PATCH net-next v7 04/10] bpf: Define handle_fs and add a new helper bpf_handle_fs_get_mode() Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09   ` [kernel-hardening] " Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09   ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09   ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-28  4:09   ` James Morris
2017-08-28  4:09     ` [kernel-hardening] " James Morris
2017-08-28  4:09     ` James Morris
2017-08-28  4:09     ` James Morris
2017-08-28  4:09     ` James Morris
2017-08-21  0:09 ` [PATCH net-next v7 05/10] landlock: Add LSM hooks related to filesystem Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09   ` [kernel-hardening] " Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09   ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09   ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-22 21:59   ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-22 21:59     ` [kernel-hardening] " Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-22 21:59     ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-22 21:59     ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-24  2:50   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-24  2:50     ` [kernel-hardening] " Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-24  2:50     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-24  2:50     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-24  2:50     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-25  8:16     ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-25  8:16       ` [kernel-hardening] " Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-25  8:16       ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-25  8:16       ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-26  1:16       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-26  1:16         ` [kernel-hardening] " Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-26  1:16         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-26  1:16         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-26  1:16         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-27 13:31         ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-27 13:31           ` [kernel-hardening] " Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-27 13:31           ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-27 13:31           ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-28  5:26           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-28  5:26             ` [kernel-hardening] " Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-28  5:26             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-28  5:26             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-28  5:26             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-21  0:09 ` [PATCH net-next v7 06/10] seccomp,landlock: Handle Landlock events per process hierarchy Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09   ` [kernel-hardening] " Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09   ` [PATCH net-next v7 06/10] seccomp, landlock: " Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09   ` [PATCH net-next v7 06/10] seccomp,landlock: " Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09 ` [PATCH net-next v7 07/10] landlock: Add ptrace restrictions Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09   ` [kernel-hardening] " Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09   ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09   ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09 ` [PATCH net-next v7 08/10] bpf: Add a Landlock sandbox example Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09   ` [kernel-hardening] " Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09   ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09   ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-24  2:59   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-24  2:59     ` [kernel-hardening] " Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-24  2:59     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-24  2:59     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-24  2:59     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-25  8:17     ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-25  8:17       ` [kernel-hardening] " Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-25  8:17       ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-25  8:17       ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-09-01 10:25   ` Alban Crequy
2017-09-01 10:25     ` [kernel-hardening] " Alban Crequy
2017-09-01 10:25     ` Alban Crequy
2017-09-01 10:25     ` Alban Crequy
2017-09-01 10:25     ` Alban Crequy
2017-09-02 13:19     ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-09-02 13:19       ` [kernel-hardening] " Mickaël Salaün
2017-09-02 13:19       ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-09-02 13:19       ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09 ` [PATCH net-next v7 09/10] bpf,landlock: Add tests for Landlock Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09   ` [kernel-hardening] " Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09   ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09   ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09 ` [PATCH net-next v7 10/10] landlock: Add user and kernel documentation " Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09   ` [kernel-hardening] " Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09   ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-21  0:09   ` Mickaël Salaün
2017-08-28  3:38 ` James Morris [this message]
2017-08-28  3:38   ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH net-next v7 00/10] Landlock LSM: Toward unprivileged sandboxing James Morris
2017-08-28  3:38   ` James Morris
2017-08-28  3:38   ` James Morris

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