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* is 440 Hz the true harmonic wave
@ 2014-03-31  5:36 Joël Krähemann
  2014-03-31  7:45 ` Clemens Ladisch
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From: Joël Krähemann @ 2014-03-31  5:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alsa-devel

Is 440 Hz the true harmonic wave? Is there a constant for it in glibc,
like M_PI?

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* Re: is 440 Hz the true harmonic wave
  2014-03-31  5:36 is 440 Hz the true harmonic wave Joël Krähemann
@ 2014-03-31  7:45 ` Clemens Ladisch
  2014-03-31  8:20   ` Joël Krähemann
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Clemens Ladisch @ 2014-03-31  7:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Joël Krähemann, alsa-devel

Joël Krähemann wrote:
> Is 440 Hz the true harmonic wave?

440 Hz is a frequency, not a wave.

A single sine wave does not have overtones, so it is not possible to
apply the term "harmony".

I do not understand what you mean with "true".

> Is there a constant for it in glibc, like M_PI?

What would be the use of a definition like "#define HZ_440 440"?


Regards,
Clemens

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* Re: is 440 Hz the true harmonic wave
  2014-03-31  7:45 ` Clemens Ladisch
@ 2014-03-31  8:20   ` Joël Krähemann
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From: Joël Krähemann @ 2014-03-31  8:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Clemens Ladisch; +Cc: alsa-devel

On Mon, 2014-03-31 at 09:45 +0200, Clemens Ladisch wrote:
> Joël Krähemann wrote:
> > Is 440 Hz the true harmonic wave?
> 
> 440 Hz is a frequency, not a wave.
> 
> A single sine wave does not have overtones, so it is not possible to
> apply the term "harmony".
> 
> I do not understand what you mean with "true".
> 
> > Is there a constant for it in glibc, like M_PI?
> 
> What would be the use of a definition like "#define HZ_440 440"?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Clemens

I believe that 440 Hz is an approximation rather than true harmonic on
it's pressure. Or am I wrong? Sine is harmonic in default arc.

thank you!

Joël

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* Re: is 440 Hz the true harmonic wave
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@ 2014-03-31  9:30       ` Joël Krähemann
  2014-03-31  9:49         ` Joël Krähemann
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From: Joël Krähemann @ 2014-03-31  9:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Felix Homann; +Cc: alsa-devel, Clemens Ladisch

On Mon, 2014-03-31 at 10:27 +0200, Felix Homann wrote:
> 2014-03-31 10:20 GMT+02:00 Joël Krähemann <joel@weedlight.ch>:
>         
>         
>         I believe that 440 Hz is an approximation rather than true
>         harmonic on
>         it's pressure. Or am I wrong? Sine is harmonic in default arc.
>         
> 
> 
> What are you talking about??? 

About scale. Am I wrong when I believe 440 Hz has physical property to
be harmonic?

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* Re: is 440 Hz the true harmonic wave
  2014-03-31  9:30       ` Joël Krähemann
@ 2014-03-31  9:49         ` Joël Krähemann
  2014-03-31  9:57           ` Joël Krähemann
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Joël Krähemann @ 2014-03-31  9:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Felix Homann; +Cc: alsa-devel, Clemens Ladisch

On Mon, 2014-03-31 at 11:30 +0200, Joël Krähemann wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-03-31 at 10:27 +0200, Felix Homann wrote:
> > 2014-03-31 10:20 GMT+02:00 Joël Krähemann <joel@weedlight.ch>:
> >         
> >         
> >         I believe that 440 Hz is an approximation rather than true
> >         harmonic on
> >         it's pressure. Or am I wrong? Sine is harmonic in default arc.
> >         
> > 
> > 
> > What are you talking about??? 
> 
> About scale. Am I wrong when I believe 440 Hz has physical property to
> be harmonic?
> 
> 
> 
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Note: 1/45 is 90 degree.

(250000000 * (1 / 45)) calculated with calculator on GNU/Linux equals:
5555555.555555556

This, some handy threading functions and nanosleep makes my application
run with a thread tree.

sf.net/p/ags

As I'm reflecting I recognize that there are 10^3 more zero's as I
wanted. I give it a try with: 250000

That would result about 4𝜇s

That could you have seen if you didn't ban me from
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org:

GNU/Linux is great!

This changed my life:

    /* and now async */
    {
      static const struct timespec req = {
        0,
        (250000000 * 1 / 45),
      };

      if(!AGS_IS_DEVOUT_THREAD(thread)){
        nanosleep(&req, NULL);
      }
    }

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* Re: is 440 Hz the true harmonic wave
  2014-03-31  9:49         ` Joël Krähemann
@ 2014-03-31  9:57           ` Joël Krähemann
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Joël Krähemann @ 2014-03-31  9:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Felix Homann; +Cc: alsa-devel, Clemens Ladisch

On Mon, 2014-03-31 at 11:49 +0200, Joël Krähemann wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-03-31 at 11:30 +0200, Joël Krähemann wrote:
> > On Mon, 2014-03-31 at 10:27 +0200, Felix Homann wrote:
> > > 2014-03-31 10:20 GMT+02:00 Joël Krähemann <joel@weedlight.ch>:
> > >         
> > >         
> > >         I believe that 440 Hz is an approximation rather than true
> > >         harmonic on
> > >         it's pressure. Or am I wrong? Sine is harmonic in default arc.
> > >         
> > > 
> > > 
> > > What are you talking about??? 
> > 
> > About scale. Am I wrong when I believe 440 Hz has physical property to
> > be harmonic?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Alsa-devel mailing list
> > Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> > http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
> 
> Note: 1/45 is 90 degree.
> 
> (250000000 * (1 / 45)) calculated with calculator on GNU/Linux equals:
> 5555555.555555556
> 
> This, some handy threading functions and nanosleep makes my application
> run with a thread tree.
> 
> sf.net/p/ags
> 
> As I'm reflecting I recognize that there are 10^3 more zero's as I
> wanted. I give it a try with: 250000
> 
> That would result about 4𝜇s
> 
> That could you have seen if you didn't ban me from
> linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org:
> 
> GNU/Linux is great!
> 
> This changed my life:
> 
>     /* and now async */
>     {
>       static const struct timespec req = {
>         0,
>         (250000000 * 1 / 45),
>       };
> 
>       if(!AGS_IS_DEVOUT_THREAD(thread)){
>         nanosleep(&req, NULL);
>       }
>     }
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Alsa-devel mailing list
> Alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
> http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel

It runs into a deadlock! It could practically intefer with any software.
But back to topic: I'm doing softsynth.



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