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From: Sven Eckelmann <sven@narfation.org>
To: b.a.t.m.a.n@lists.open-mesh.org
Cc: Jiri Pirko <jiri@mellanox.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linus.luessing@c0d3.blue
Subject: Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC v4 00/19] batman-adv: netlink restructuring, part 2
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 11:47:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1895931.G10psR3j26@sven-edge> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190119155626.6414-1-sven@narfation.org>

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On Saturday, 19 January 2019 16.56.07 CET Sven Eckelmann wrote:
[...]
> There were also two topics which were not yet really discussed and thus
> these requests (from Linus) were not yet implemented:

@Jiri, @Linus maybe you can discuss these topics further and select the 
correct solution.

> * convert BATADV_ATTR_MULTICAST_MODE_ENABLED to an u32 and let don't handle
>   it like a boolean. Instead use it to select how multicast traffic has to
>   be handled:
>   
>   - 0: ignore multicast optimization and just flood it like broadcast
>     traffic
>   - 1: enabled multicast optimization
>   - 2: undefined but also some kind of multicast optimization
>   - 3: undefined but also some kind of multicast of optimization
>   - ...

Multicast mode is currently defined.

* according to batctl manpage:

    multicast_mode|mm [0|1]
           If no parameter is given the current multicast mode set‐
           ting is displayed. Otherwise the parameter is used to en‐
           able or disable multicast optimizations (i.e. disabling
           means always sending own multicast frames via classic
           flooding).

* according to sysfs ABI:

   What:           /sys/class/net/<mesh_iface>/mesh/multicast_mode
   Date:           Feb 2014
   Contact:        Linus Lüssing <linus.luessing@web.de>
   Description:
                   Indicates whether multicast optimizations are enabled
                   or disabled. If set to zero then all nodes in the
                   mesh are going to use classic flooding for any
                   multicast packet with no optimizations.

Both define it as boolean value and therefore it was converted to a boolean 
value (via u8) in netlink.

But Linus now suggested that it is actually an u32. Most likely 0 == to 
something like BATADV_MULTICAST_MODE_FLOODING. But I have no idea what 1 is or 
what 2, 3, 4, .. would be. So I need some input here.

And Jiri said that it should be renamed to BATADV_ATTR_MULTICAST_ENABLED -
which seems to suggest that he doesn't like the idea of a u32 for some reason
and prefers to use a boolean value.

And now Linus even said that it should be a bit field - which makes it even 
more vague to me and I have now absolutely no idea what should be implemented.

* BIT 0 for flooding vs ?
* BIT 1 for ?
* ...

> * convert BATADV_ATTR_AGGREGATION_OGM_ENABLED to u32 and use it
>   to mark which type of traffic should be aggregated:
> 
>   - bit 0: enable aggregation of OGM(2)s
>   - bit 1: yet undefined packet type which allows some kind of aggregation
>   - bit 2: yet undefined packet type which allows some kind of aggregation
>   - ...

Aggregated OGM is currently defined as:


* according to batctl manpage:

    aggregation|ag [0|1]
           If no parameter is given the current aggregation setting
           is displayed. Otherwise the parameter is used to enable or
           disable OGM packet aggregation.

* according to sysfs ABI:

    What:           /sys/class/net/<mesh_iface>/mesh/aggregated_ogms
    Date:           May 2010
    Contact:        Marek Lindner <mareklindner@neomailbox.ch>
    Description:
                    Indicates whether the batman protocol messages of the
                    mesh <mesh_iface> shall be aggregated or not.

So sysfs is only one possible backend for the batctl command. There is 
currently nothing which I would assume to be aggregatable beside OGMs but let 
us assume for now that there is now something and some way to aggregate things 
beside OGMs in a save and backward compatible way. Let's call this FOO - so we 
have BATADV_ATTR_AGGREGATION_OGM_ENABLED and 
BATADV_ATTR_AGGREGATION_FOO_ENABLED. Or we have BATADV_ATTR_AGGREGATION as an 
u32 and just use the second bit as marker for FOO (and of course the first bit 
as marker for OGM).

Would it now be more preferable to use BATADV_ATTR_AGGREGATION_OGM_ENABLED as 
u8 (boolean) or to to switch to BATADV_ATTR_AGGREGATION (u32) & assign single 
bits to packet types.

Kind regards,
	Sven

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-01-26 10:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-19 15:56 [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC v4 00/19] batman-adv: netlink restructuring, part 2 Sven Eckelmann
2019-01-19 15:56 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC v4 01/19] batman-adv: Move common genl doit code pre/post hooks Sven Eckelmann
2019-01-19 15:56 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC v4 02/19] batman-adv: Prepare framework for mesh genl config Sven Eckelmann
2019-01-19 15:56 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC v4 03/19] batman-adv: Prepare framework for hardif " Sven Eckelmann
2019-01-19 15:56 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC v4 04/19] batman-adv: Prepare framework for vlan " Sven Eckelmann
2019-01-21  9:44   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-01-19 15:56 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC v4 05/19] batman-adv: Add aggregated_ogms mesh genl configuration Sven Eckelmann
2019-01-19 15:56 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC v4 06/19] batman-adv: Add ap_isolation mesh/vlan " Sven Eckelmann
2019-01-19 15:56 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC v4 07/19] batman-adv: Add bonding mesh " Sven Eckelmann
2019-01-19 15:56 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC v4 08/19] batman-adv: Add bridge_loop_avoidance " Sven Eckelmann
2019-01-19 15:56 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC v4 09/19] batman-adv: Add distributed_arp_table " Sven Eckelmann
2019-01-19 15:56 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC v4 10/19] batman-adv: Add fragmentation " Sven Eckelmann
2019-01-19 15:56 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC v4 11/19] batman-adv: Add gateway " Sven Eckelmann
2019-01-19 15:56 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC v4 12/19] batman-adv: Add hop_penalty " Sven Eckelmann
2019-01-19 15:56 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC v4 13/19] batman-adv: Add log_level " Sven Eckelmann
2019-01-19 15:56 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC v4 14/19] batman-adv: Add multicast_mode " Sven Eckelmann
2019-01-19 15:56 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC v4 15/19] batman-adv: Add network_coding " Sven Eckelmann
2019-01-19 15:56 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC v4 16/19] batman-adv: Add orig_interval " Sven Eckelmann
2019-01-19 15:56 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC v4 17/19] batman-adv: Add elp_interval hardif " Sven Eckelmann
2019-01-19 15:56 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC v4 18/19] batman-adv: Add throughput_override " Sven Eckelmann
2019-01-19 15:56 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC v4 19/19] batman-adv: Trigger genl notification on sysfs config change Sven Eckelmann
2019-01-21  9:47 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC v4 00/19] batman-adv: netlink restructuring, part 2 Jiri Pirko
2019-01-26 10:47 ` Sven Eckelmann [this message]
2019-01-27  8:45   ` Jiri Pirko
2019-02-05 17:04   ` Simon Wunderlich
2019-02-05 19:24   ` Linus Lüssing
2019-02-06 18:20     ` Sven Eckelmann
2019-02-06 19:08       ` Linus Lüssing
2019-02-07 10:02         ` Sven Eckelmann

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