From: Anton Ivanov <anton.ivanov@cambridgegreys.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, x86@kernel.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, luto@kernel.org, bp@alien8.de,
dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, hpa@zytor.com, mingo@redhat.com,
juri.lelli@redhat.com, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
mgorman@suse.de, rostedt@goodmis.org, jon.grimm@amd.com,
bharata@amd.com, raghavendra.kt@amd.com,
boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com, konrad.wilk@oracle.com,
jgross@suse.com, andrew.cooper3@citrix.com,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org,
Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
linux-um@lists.infradead.org, Brian Cain <bcain@quicinc.com>,
linux-hexagon@vger.kernel.org,
Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru>,
Matt Turner <mattst88@gmail.com>,
linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Arches that don't support PREEMPT
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2023 15:21:39 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bd664a61-4506-bab0-19c3-0011f57005b5@cambridgegreys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230919134218.GA39281@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On 19/09/2023 14:42, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 03:37:24PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>> On Tue, 2023-09-19 at 14:00 +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 02:30:59PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>>> Though it just occured to me that there are dragons lurking:
>>>>
>>>> arch/alpha/Kconfig: select ARCH_NO_PREEMPT
>>>> arch/hexagon/Kconfig: select ARCH_NO_PREEMPT
>>>> arch/m68k/Kconfig: select ARCH_NO_PREEMPT if !COLDFIRE
>>>> arch/um/Kconfig: select ARCH_NO_PREEMPT
>>>
>>> Sounds like three-and-a-half architectures which could be queued up for
>>> removal right behind ia64 ...
>>
>> The agreement to kill off ia64 wasn't an invitation to kill off other stuff
>> that people are still working on! Can we please not do this?
>
> If you're working on one of them, then surely it's a simple matter of
> working on adding CONFIG_PREEMPT support :-)
In the case of UML adding preempt will be quite difficult. I looked at this a few years back.
At the same time it is used for kernel test and other stuff. It is not exactly abandonware on a CPU found in archaeological artifacts of past civilizations like ia64.
>
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From: Anton Ivanov <anton.ivanov@cambridgegreys.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, x86@kernel.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, luto@kernel.org, bp@alien8.de,
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juri.lelli@redhat.com, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
mgorman@suse.de, rostedt@goodmis.org, jon.grimm@amd.com,
bharata@amd.com, raghavendra.kt@amd.com,
boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com, konrad.wilk@oracle.com,
jgross@suse.com, andrew.cooper3@citrix.com,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org,
Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
linux-um@lists.infradead.org, Brian Cain <bcain@quicinc.com>,
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Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru>,
Matt Turner <mattst88@gmail.com>,
linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Arches that don't support PREEMPT
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2023 15:21:39 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bd664a61-4506-bab0-19c3-0011f57005b5@cambridgegreys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230919134218.GA39281@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On 19/09/2023 14:42, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 03:37:24PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>> On Tue, 2023-09-19 at 14:00 +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 02:30:59PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>>> Though it just occured to me that there are dragons lurking:
>>>>
>>>> arch/alpha/Kconfig: select ARCH_NO_PREEMPT
>>>> arch/hexagon/Kconfig: select ARCH_NO_PREEMPT
>>>> arch/m68k/Kconfig: select ARCH_NO_PREEMPT if !COLDFIRE
>>>> arch/um/Kconfig: select ARCH_NO_PREEMPT
>>>
>>> Sounds like three-and-a-half architectures which could be queued up for
>>> removal right behind ia64 ...
>>
>> The agreement to kill off ia64 wasn't an invitation to kill off other stuff
>> that people are still working on! Can we please not do this?
>
> If you're working on one of them, then surely it's a simple matter of
> working on adding CONFIG_PREEMPT support :-)
In the case of UML adding preempt will be quite difficult. I looked at this a few years back.
At the same time it is used for kernel test and other stuff. It is not exactly abandonware on a CPU found in archaeological artifacts of past civilizations like ia64.
>
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From: Anton Ivanov <anton.ivanov@cambridgegreys.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, x86@kernel.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, luto@kernel.org, bp@alien8.de,
dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, hpa@zytor.com, mingo@redhat.com,
juri.lelli@redhat.com, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
mgorman@suse.de, rostedt@goodmis.org, jon.grimm@amd.com,
bharata@amd.com, raghavendra.kt@amd.com,
boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com, konrad.wilk@oracle.com,
jgross@suse.com, andrew.cooper3@citrix.com,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org,
Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
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Subject: Re: Arches that don't support PREEMPT
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2023 15:21:39 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bd664a61-4506-bab0-19c3-0011f57005b5@cambridgegreys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230919134218.GA39281@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On 19/09/2023 14:42, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 03:37:24PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>> On Tue, 2023-09-19 at 14:00 +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 02:30:59PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>>> Though it just occured to me that there are dragons lurking:
>>>>
>>>> arch/alpha/Kconfig: select ARCH_NO_PREEMPT
>>>> arch/hexagon/Kconfig: select ARCH_NO_PREEMPT
>>>> arch/m68k/Kconfig: select ARCH_NO_PREEMPT if !COLDFIRE
>>>> arch/um/Kconfig: select ARCH_NO_PREEMPT
>>>
>>> Sounds like three-and-a-half architectures which could be queued up for
>>> removal right behind ia64 ...
>>
>> The agreement to kill off ia64 wasn't an invitation to kill off other stuff
>> that people are still working on! Can we please not do this?
>
> If you're working on one of them, then surely it's a simple matter of
> working on adding CONFIG_PREEMPT support :-)
In the case of UML adding preempt will be quite difficult. I looked at this a few years back.
At the same time it is used for kernel test and other stuff. It is not exactly abandonware on a CPU found in archaeological artifacts of past civilizations like ia64.
>
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