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* [PATCH bpf-next] libbpf: stop using feature-detection Makefiles
@ 2021-02-03 20:34 Andrii Nakryiko
  2021-02-03 21:31 ` John Fastabend
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Andrii Nakryiko @ 2021-02-03 20:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bpf, netdev, ast, daniel
  Cc: andrii, kernel-team, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo, Randy Dunlap

Libbpf's Makefile relies on Linux tools infrastructure's feature detection
framework, but libbpf's needs are very modest: it detects the presence of
libelf and libz, both of which are mandatory. So it doesn't benefit much from
the framework, but pays significant costs in terms of maintainability and
debugging experience, when something goes wrong. The other feature detector,
testing for the presernce of minimal BPF API in system headers is long
obsolete as well, providing no value.

So stop using feature detection and just assume the presence of libelf and
libz during build time. Worst case, user will get a clear and actionable
linker error, e.g.:

  /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lelf

On the other hand, we completely bypass recurring issues various users
reported over time with false negatives of feature detection (libelf or libz
not being detected, while they are actually present in the system).

Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>
Cc: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>
Signed-off-by: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>
---
 tools/lib/bpf/.gitignore |  1 -
 tools/lib/bpf/Makefile   | 47 ++++------------------------------------
 2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 44 deletions(-)

diff --git a/tools/lib/bpf/.gitignore b/tools/lib/bpf/.gitignore
index 8a81b3679d2b..5d4cfac671d5 100644
--- a/tools/lib/bpf/.gitignore
+++ b/tools/lib/bpf/.gitignore
@@ -1,7 +1,6 @@
 # SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0-only
 libbpf_version.h
 libbpf.pc
-FEATURE-DUMP.libbpf
 libbpf.so.*
 TAGS
 tags
diff --git a/tools/lib/bpf/Makefile b/tools/lib/bpf/Makefile
index 55bd78b3496f..887a494ad5fc 100644
--- a/tools/lib/bpf/Makefile
+++ b/tools/lib/bpf/Makefile
@@ -58,28 +58,7 @@ ifndef VERBOSE
   VERBOSE = 0
 endif
 
-FEATURE_USER = .libbpf
-FEATURE_TESTS = libelf zlib bpf
-FEATURE_DISPLAY = libelf zlib bpf
-
 INCLUDES = -I. -I$(srctree)/tools/include -I$(srctree)/tools/include/uapi
-FEATURE_CHECK_CFLAGS-bpf = $(INCLUDES)
-
-check_feat := 1
-NON_CHECK_FEAT_TARGETS := clean TAGS tags cscope help
-ifdef MAKECMDGOALS
-ifeq ($(filter-out $(NON_CHECK_FEAT_TARGETS),$(MAKECMDGOALS)),)
-  check_feat := 0
-endif
-endif
-
-ifeq ($(check_feat),1)
-ifeq ($(FEATURES_DUMP),)
-include $(srctree)/tools/build/Makefile.feature
-else
-include $(FEATURES_DUMP)
-endif
-endif
 
 export prefix libdir src obj
 
@@ -157,7 +136,7 @@ all: fixdep
 
 all_cmd: $(CMD_TARGETS) check
 
-$(BPF_IN_SHARED): force elfdep zdep bpfdep $(BPF_HELPER_DEFS)
+$(BPF_IN_SHARED): force $(BPF_HELPER_DEFS)
 	@(test -f ../../include/uapi/linux/bpf.h -a -f ../../../include/uapi/linux/bpf.h && ( \
 	(diff -B ../../include/uapi/linux/bpf.h ../../../include/uapi/linux/bpf.h >/dev/null) || \
 	echo "Warning: Kernel ABI header at 'tools/include/uapi/linux/bpf.h' differs from latest version at 'include/uapi/linux/bpf.h'" >&2 )) || true
@@ -175,7 +154,7 @@ $(BPF_IN_SHARED): force elfdep zdep bpfdep $(BPF_HELPER_DEFS)
 	echo "Warning: Kernel ABI header at 'tools/include/uapi/linux/if_xdp.h' differs from latest version at 'include/uapi/linux/if_xdp.h'" >&2 )) || true
 	$(Q)$(MAKE) $(build)=libbpf OUTPUT=$(SHARED_OBJDIR) CFLAGS="$(CFLAGS) $(SHLIB_FLAGS)"
 
-$(BPF_IN_STATIC): force elfdep zdep bpfdep $(BPF_HELPER_DEFS)
+$(BPF_IN_STATIC): force $(BPF_HELPER_DEFS)
 	$(Q)$(MAKE) $(build)=libbpf OUTPUT=$(STATIC_OBJDIR)
 
 $(BPF_HELPER_DEFS): $(srctree)/tools/include/uapi/linux/bpf.h
@@ -264,34 +243,16 @@ install_pkgconfig: $(PC_FILE)
 
 install: install_lib install_pkgconfig install_headers
 
-### Cleaning rules
-
-config-clean:
-	$(call QUIET_CLEAN, feature-detect)
-	$(Q)$(MAKE) -C $(srctree)/tools/build/feature/ clean >/dev/null
-
-clean: config-clean
+clean:
 	$(call QUIET_CLEAN, libbpf) $(RM) -rf $(CMD_TARGETS)		     \
 		*~ .*.d .*.cmd LIBBPF-CFLAGS $(BPF_HELPER_DEFS)		     \
 		$(SHARED_OBJDIR) $(STATIC_OBJDIR)			     \
 		$(addprefix $(OUTPUT),					     \
 			    *.o *.a *.so *.so.$(LIBBPF_MAJOR_VERSION) *.pc)
-	$(call QUIET_CLEAN, core-gen) $(RM) $(OUTPUT)FEATURE-DUMP.libbpf
-
-
 
-PHONY += force elfdep zdep bpfdep cscope tags
+PHONY += force cscope tags
 force:
 
-elfdep:
-	@if [ "$(feature-libelf)" != "1" ]; then echo "No libelf found"; exit 1 ; fi
-
-zdep:
-	@if [ "$(feature-zlib)" != "1" ]; then echo "No zlib found"; exit 1 ; fi
-
-bpfdep:
-	@if [ "$(feature-bpf)" != "1" ]; then echo "BPF API too old"; exit 1 ; fi
-
 cscope:
 	ls *.c *.h > cscope.files
 	cscope -b -q -I $(srctree)/include -f cscope.out
-- 
2.24.1


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* RE: [PATCH bpf-next] libbpf: stop using feature-detection Makefiles
  2021-02-03 20:34 [PATCH bpf-next] libbpf: stop using feature-detection Makefiles Andrii Nakryiko
@ 2021-02-03 21:31 ` John Fastabend
  2021-02-03 23:29 ` Randy Dunlap
  2021-02-04  0:30 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: John Fastabend @ 2021-02-03 21:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrii Nakryiko, bpf, netdev, ast, daniel
  Cc: andrii, kernel-team, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo, Randy Dunlap

Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> Libbpf's Makefile relies on Linux tools infrastructure's feature detection
> framework, but libbpf's needs are very modest: it detects the presence of
> libelf and libz, both of which are mandatory. So it doesn't benefit much from
> the framework, but pays significant costs in terms of maintainability and
> debugging experience, when something goes wrong. The other feature detector,
> testing for the presernce of minimal BPF API in system headers is long
> obsolete as well, providing no value.
> 
> So stop using feature detection and just assume the presence of libelf and
> libz during build time. Worst case, user will get a clear and actionable
> linker error, e.g.:
> 
>   /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lelf
> 
> On the other hand, we completely bypass recurring issues various users
> reported over time with false negatives of feature detection (libelf or libz
> not being detected, while they are actually present in the system).
> 
> Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>
> Cc: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>
> Signed-off-by: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>
> ---
>  tools/lib/bpf/.gitignore |  1 -
>  tools/lib/bpf/Makefile   | 47 ++++------------------------------------
>  2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 44 deletions(-)

I've also hit these annoying cases at least once or twice.

Acked-by: John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>

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* Re: [PATCH bpf-next] libbpf: stop using feature-detection Makefiles
  2021-02-03 20:34 [PATCH bpf-next] libbpf: stop using feature-detection Makefiles Andrii Nakryiko
  2021-02-03 21:31 ` John Fastabend
@ 2021-02-03 23:29 ` Randy Dunlap
  2021-02-04  0:30 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Randy Dunlap @ 2021-02-03 23:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrii Nakryiko, bpf, netdev, ast, daniel
  Cc: kernel-team, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo

On 2/3/21 12:34 PM, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> Libbpf's Makefile relies on Linux tools infrastructure's feature detection
> framework, but libbpf's needs are very modest: it detects the presence of
> libelf and libz, both of which are mandatory. So it doesn't benefit much from
> the framework, but pays significant costs in terms of maintainability and
> debugging experience, when something goes wrong. The other feature detector,
> testing for the presernce of minimal BPF API in system headers is long
> obsolete as well, providing no value.
> 
> So stop using feature detection and just assume the presence of libelf and
> libz during build time. Worst case, user will get a clear and actionable
> linker error, e.g.:
> 
>   /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lelf
> 
> On the other hand, we completely bypass recurring issues various users
> reported over time with false negatives of feature detection (libelf or libz
> not being detected, while they are actually present in the system).
> 
> Cc: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>
> Cc: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>
> Signed-off-by: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>
> ---
>  tools/lib/bpf/.gitignore |  1 -
>  tools/lib/bpf/Makefile   | 47 ++++------------------------------------
>  2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 44 deletions(-)

Hi Andrii,

This does indeed fix the build problems that I was seeing,
so I can add:
Acked-by: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>

but in the long term I think that features/libs/etc. that are
used should be checked for instead of being used blindly... IMO.

Thanks.

-- 
~Randy

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* Re: [PATCH bpf-next] libbpf: stop using feature-detection Makefiles
  2021-02-03 20:34 [PATCH bpf-next] libbpf: stop using feature-detection Makefiles Andrii Nakryiko
  2021-02-03 21:31 ` John Fastabend
  2021-02-03 23:29 ` Randy Dunlap
@ 2021-02-04  0:30 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: patchwork-bot+netdevbpf @ 2021-02-04  0:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrii Nakryiko; +Cc: bpf, netdev, ast, daniel, kernel-team, acme, rdunlap

Hello:

This patch was applied to bpf/bpf-next.git (refs/heads/master):

On Wed, 3 Feb 2021 12:34:45 -0800 you wrote:
> Libbpf's Makefile relies on Linux tools infrastructure's feature detection
> framework, but libbpf's needs are very modest: it detects the presence of
> libelf and libz, both of which are mandatory. So it doesn't benefit much from
> the framework, but pays significant costs in terms of maintainability and
> debugging experience, when something goes wrong. The other feature detector,
> testing for the presernce of minimal BPF API in system headers is long
> obsolete as well, providing no value.
> 
> [...]

Here is the summary with links:
  - [bpf-next] libbpf: stop using feature-detection Makefiles
    https://git.kernel.org/bpf/bpf-next/c/5f10c1aac8b2

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