From: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>
Cc: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>,
"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>,
"Andrii Nakryiko" <andriin@fb.com>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
Networking <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@fb.com>,
"Kernel Team" <kernel-team@fb.com>, "Yonghong Song" <yhs@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 bpf-next 1/3] bpf: switch BPF UAPI #define constants used from BPF program side to enums
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2020 08:07:32 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200304160730.lotus7x2ixwxw7lf@ast-mbp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c742d2d4-6596-3178-3d03-809270e67183@iogearbox.net>
On Wed, Mar 04, 2020 at 04:57:46PM +0100, Daniel Borkmann wrote:
> On 3/4/20 4:38 PM, Daniel Borkmann wrote:
> > On 3/4/20 10:37 AM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
> > > Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com> writes:
> > > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 3:01 PM Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On 3/3/20 1:32 AM, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> > > > > > Switch BPF UAPI constants, previously defined as #define macro, to anonymous
> > > > > > enum values. This preserves constants values and behavior in expressions, but
> > > > > > has added advantaged of being captured as part of DWARF and, subsequently, BTF
> > > > > > type info. Which, in turn, greatly improves usefulness of generated vmlinux.h
> > > > > > for BPF applications, as it will not require BPF users to copy/paste various
> > > > > > flags and constants, which are frequently used with BPF helpers. Only those
> > > > > > constants that are used/useful from BPF program side are converted.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Andrii Nakryiko <andriin@fb.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > Just thinking out loud, is there some way this could be resolved generically
> > > > > either from compiler side or via additional tooling where this ends up as BTF
> > > > > data and thus inside vmlinux.h as anon enum eventually? bpf.h is one single
> > > > > header and worst case libbpf could also ship a copy of it (?), but what about
> > > > > all the other things one would need to redefine e.g. for tracing? Small example
> > > > > that comes to mind are all these TASK_* defines in sched.h etc, and there's
> > > > > probably dozens of other similar stuff needed too depending on the particular
> > > > > case; would be nice to have some generic catch-all, hmm.
> > > >
> > > > Enum convertion seems to be the simplest and cleanest way,
> > > > unfortunately (as far as I know). DWARF has some extensions capturing
> > > > #defines, but values are strings (and need to be parsed, which is pain
> > > > already for "1 << 1ULL"), and it's some obscure extension, not a
> > > > standard thing. I agree would be nice not to have and change all UAPI
> > > > headers for this, but I'm not aware of the solution like that.
> > >
> > > Since this is a UAPI header, are we sure that no userspace programs are
> > > using these defines in #ifdefs or something like that?
> >
> > Hm, yes, anyone doing #ifdefs on them would get build issues. Simple example:
> >
> > enum {
> > FOO = 42,
> > //#define FOO FOO
> > };
> >
> > #ifndef FOO
> > # warning "bar"
> > #endif
> >
> > int main(int argc, char **argv)
> > {
> > return FOO;
> > }
> >
> > $ gcc -Wall -O2 foo.c
> > foo.c:7:3: warning: #warning "bar" [-Wcpp]
> > 7 | # warning "bar"
> > | ^~~~~~~
> >
> > Commenting #define FOO FOO back in fixes it as we discussed in v2:
> >
> > $ gcc -Wall -O2 foo.c
> > $
> >
> > There's also a flag_enum attribute, but with the experiments I tried yesterday
> > night I couldn't get a warning to trigger for anonymous enums at least, so that
> > part should be ok.
> >
> > I was about to push the series out, but agree that there may be a risk for #ifndefs
> > in the BPF C code. If we want to be on safe side, #define FOO FOO would be needed.
>
> I checked Cilium, LLVM, bcc, bpftrace code, and various others at least there it
> seems okay with the current approach, meaning no such if{,n}def seen that would
> cause a build warning. Also suricata seems to ship the BPF header itself. But
> iproute2 had the following in include/bpf_util.h:
>
> #ifndef BPF_PSEUDO_MAP_FD
> # define BPF_PSEUDO_MAP_FD 1
> #endif
Consider that users can do all sorts of stupid things with uapi headers like:
#if BPF_OBJ_NAME_LEN == 16
int foo;
#else
int bar;
#endif
Does that mean that we cannnot change any #define ever?
Of course not.
Consider that #define A A
is also broken in such cases:
For example:
enum {
A = 1
#define A A
};
#if A == 1
int foo;
#else
int bar;
#endif
Will give different 'int' variable vs:
#define A 1
#if A == 1
int foo;
#else
int bar;
#endif
So ? Let's paralyze the development because of crazy users? No.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-03-04 16:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-03-03 0:32 [PATCH v3 bpf-next 0/3] Convert BPF UAPI constants into enum values Andrii Nakryiko
2020-03-03 0:32 ` [PATCH v3 bpf-next 1/3] bpf: switch BPF UAPI #define constants used from BPF program side to enums Andrii Nakryiko
2020-03-03 23:01 ` Daniel Borkmann
2020-03-03 23:24 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-03-04 9:37 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-03-04 15:38 ` Daniel Borkmann
2020-03-04 15:50 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-03-04 16:03 ` Daniel Borkmann
2020-03-04 15:57 ` Daniel Borkmann
2020-03-04 16:02 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-03-04 16:07 ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2020-03-05 10:50 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-06-02 5:31 ` Michael Forney
2020-06-02 19:17 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-06-02 21:40 ` Michael Forney
2020-06-02 23:07 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-06-02 23:21 ` Michael Forney
2020-06-02 23:36 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-06-03 21:22 ` Michael Forney
2020-03-03 0:32 ` [PATCH v3 bpf-next 2/3] libbpf: assume unsigned values for BTF_KIND_ENUM Andrii Nakryiko
2020-03-03 0:32 ` [PATCH v3 bpf-next 3/3] tools/runqslower: drop copy/pasted BPF_F_CURRENT_CPU definiton Andrii Nakryiko
2020-03-04 15:21 ` [PATCH v3 bpf-next 0/3] Convert BPF UAPI constants into enum values Daniel Borkmann
2020-03-04 15:34 ` Andrii Nakryiko
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