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* Re: [PATCH] RCU: Fix macro name CONFIG_TASKS_RCU_TRACE
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@ 2021-07-15  8:45             ` Zhouyi Zhou
  2021-07-15 18:09               ` Paul E. McKenney
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Zhouyi Zhou @ 2021-07-15  8:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: paulmck
  Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers, Josh Triplett, rostedt, Lai Jiangshan,
	Joel Fernandes, Google, rcu, linux-kernel, apw, joe, ast, daniel,
	andrii, kafai, songliubraving, yhs, john.fastabend, kpsingh, bpf

On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 11:51 AM Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 12:44:36PM +0800, Zhouyi Zhou wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 11:19 PM Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 06:18:12AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 09:09:04AM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > > > > ----- On Jul 13, 2021, at 12:16 AM, paulmck paulmck@kernel.org wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 08:56:45AM +0800, zhouzhouyi@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > >> From: Zhouyi Zhou <zhouzhouyi@gmail.com>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Hi Paul,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> During my studying of RCU, I did a grep in the kernel source tree.
> > > > > >> I found there are 3 places where the macro name CONFIG_TASKS_RCU_TRACE
> > > > > >> should be CONFIG_TASKS_TRACE_RCU instead.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Without memory fencing, the idle/userspace task inspection may not
> > > > > >> be so accurate.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Thanks for your constant encouragement for my studying.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Best Wishes
> > > > > >> Zhouyi
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Signed-off-by: Zhouyi Zhou <zhouzhouyi@gmail.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Good eyes, and those could cause real bugs, so thank you!
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Paul,
> > > > >
> > > > > This makes me wonder: what is missing testing-wise in rcutorture to
> > > > > catch those issues with testing before they reach mainline ?
> > > >
> > > > My guess:  Running on weakly ordered architectures.  ;-)
> > >
> > > And another guess:  A tool that identifies use of Kconfig options
> > > that are not defined in any Kconfig* file.
> > Based on Paul's second guess ;-),  I did a small research, and I think
> > the best answer is to modify scripts/checkpatch.pl. We modify checkpatch.pl
> > to identify use of Kconfig options that are not defined in any Kconfig* file.
> >
> > As I am a C/C++ programmer, I would be glad to take some time to learn
> > perl (checkpatch is implented in perl) first if no other volunteer is
> > about to do it ;-)
>
> I haven't heard anyone else volunteer.  ;-)
>
> Others might have opinions on where best to implement these checks,
> but I must confess that I have not given it much thought.
I recklessly cc the maintainers of checkpatch.pl without your
permission to see others' opion,
and I begin to study perl at the same time, after all, learning
something is always good ;-)
>
>                                                         Thanx, Paul
Best Wishes
Zhouyi

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH] RCU: Fix macro name CONFIG_TASKS_RCU_TRACE
  2021-07-15  8:45             ` [PATCH] RCU: Fix macro name CONFIG_TASKS_RCU_TRACE Zhouyi Zhou
@ 2021-07-15 18:09               ` Paul E. McKenney
  2021-07-17 22:03                 ` Zhouyi Zhou
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Paul E. McKenney @ 2021-07-15 18:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Zhouyi Zhou
  Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers, Josh Triplett, rostedt, Lai Jiangshan,
	Joel Fernandes, Google, rcu, linux-kernel, apw, joe, ast, daniel,
	andrii, kafai, songliubraving, yhs, john.fastabend, kpsingh, bpf

On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 04:45:04PM +0800, Zhouyi Zhou wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 11:51 AM Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 12:44:36PM +0800, Zhouyi Zhou wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 11:19 PM Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 06:18:12AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 09:09:04AM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > > > > > ----- On Jul 13, 2021, at 12:16 AM, paulmck paulmck@kernel.org wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 08:56:45AM +0800, zhouzhouyi@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > >> From: Zhouyi Zhou <zhouzhouyi@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Hi Paul,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> During my studying of RCU, I did a grep in the kernel source tree.
> > > > > > >> I found there are 3 places where the macro name CONFIG_TASKS_RCU_TRACE
> > > > > > >> should be CONFIG_TASKS_TRACE_RCU instead.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Without memory fencing, the idle/userspace task inspection may not
> > > > > > >> be so accurate.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Thanks for your constant encouragement for my studying.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Best Wishes
> > > > > > >> Zhouyi
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Signed-off-by: Zhouyi Zhou <zhouzhouyi@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Good eyes, and those could cause real bugs, so thank you!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Paul,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This makes me wonder: what is missing testing-wise in rcutorture to
> > > > > > catch those issues with testing before they reach mainline ?
> > > > >
> > > > > My guess:  Running on weakly ordered architectures.  ;-)
> > > >
> > > > And another guess:  A tool that identifies use of Kconfig options
> > > > that are not defined in any Kconfig* file.
> > > Based on Paul's second guess ;-),  I did a small research, and I think
> > > the best answer is to modify scripts/checkpatch.pl. We modify checkpatch.pl
> > > to identify use of Kconfig options that are not defined in any Kconfig* file.
> > >
> > > As I am a C/C++ programmer, I would be glad to take some time to learn
> > > perl (checkpatch is implented in perl) first if no other volunteer is
> > > about to do it ;-)
> >
> > I haven't heard anyone else volunteer.  ;-)
> >
> > Others might have opinions on where best to implement these checks,
> > but I must confess that I have not given it much thought.
> I recklessly cc the maintainers of checkpatch.pl without your
> permission to see others' opion,
> and I begin to study perl at the same time, after all, learning
> something is always good ;-)

Works for me!

							Thanx, Paul

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH] RCU: Fix macro name CONFIG_TASKS_RCU_TRACE
  2021-07-15 18:09               ` Paul E. McKenney
@ 2021-07-17 22:03                 ` Zhouyi Zhou
  2021-07-18 21:08                   ` Paul E. McKenney
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Zhouyi Zhou @ 2021-07-17 22:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: paulmck
  Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers, Josh Triplett, rostedt, Lai Jiangshan,
	Joel Fernandes, Google, rcu, linux-kernel, apw, joe, ast, daniel,
	andrii, kafai, songliubraving, yhs, john.fastabend, kpsingh, bpf,
	mingo

Hi Paul
During the research, I found a already existing tool to detect
undefined Kconfig macro:
scripts/checkkconfigsymbols.py. It is marvellous!

By invoking ./scripts/checkkconfigsymbols.py > /tmp/log, I found
following possibly undefined Kconfig macros
which may need our attention:

PREEMPT_LOCK
Referencing files: include/linux/lockdep_types.h

PREEMT_DYNAMIC
Referencing files: kernel/entry/common.c

TREE_PREEMPT_RCU
Referencing files: arch/sh/configs/sdk7786_defconfig

RCU_CPU_STALL_INFO
Referencing files: arch/xtensa/configs/nommu_kc705_defconfig

RCU_NOCB_CPU_ALL
Referencing files:
Documentation/RCU/Design/Memory-Ordering/Tree-RCU-Memory-Ordering.rst

RCU_TORTURE_TESTS
Referencing files: kernel/rcu/rcutorture.c

and finally the macro which drive me to do this research

TASKS_RCU_TRACE
Referencing files: include/linux/rcupdate.h, kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h

On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 2:09 AM Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 04:45:04PM +0800, Zhouyi Zhou wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 11:51 AM Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 12:44:36PM +0800, Zhouyi Zhou wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 11:19 PM Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 06:18:12AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 09:09:04AM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > > > > > > ----- On Jul 13, 2021, at 12:16 AM, paulmck paulmck@kernel.org wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 08:56:45AM +0800, zhouzhouyi@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > >> From: Zhouyi Zhou <zhouzhouyi@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Hi Paul,
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> During my studying of RCU, I did a grep in the kernel source tree.
> > > > > > > >> I found there are 3 places where the macro name CONFIG_TASKS_RCU_TRACE
> > > > > > > >> should be CONFIG_TASKS_TRACE_RCU instead.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Without memory fencing, the idle/userspace task inspection may not
> > > > > > > >> be so accurate.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Thanks for your constant encouragement for my studying.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Best Wishes
> > > > > > > >> Zhouyi
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Signed-off-by: Zhouyi Zhou <zhouzhouyi@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Good eyes, and those could cause real bugs, so thank you!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Paul,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This makes me wonder: what is missing testing-wise in rcutorture to
> > > > > > > catch those issues with testing before they reach mainline ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My guess:  Running on weakly ordered architectures.  ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > And another guess:  A tool that identifies use of Kconfig options
> > > > > that are not defined in any Kconfig* file.
> > > > Based on Paul's second guess ;-),  I did a small research, and I think
> > > > the best answer is to modify scripts/checkpatch.pl. We modify checkpatch.pl
> > > > to identify use of Kconfig options that are not defined in any Kconfig* file.
> > > >
> > > > As I am a C/C++ programmer, I would be glad to take some time to learn
> > > > perl (checkpatch is implented in perl) first if no other volunteer is
> > > > about to do it ;-)
> > >
> > > I haven't heard anyone else volunteer.  ;-)
> > >
> > > Others might have opinions on where best to implement these checks,
> > > but I must confess that I have not given it much thought.
> > I recklessly cc the maintainers of checkpatch.pl without your
> > permission to see others' opion,
> > and I begin to study perl at the same time, after all, learning
> > something is always good ;-)
>
> Works for me!
>
>                                                         Thanx, Paul
Best Wishes
Zhouyi

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH] RCU: Fix macro name CONFIG_TASKS_RCU_TRACE
  2021-07-17 22:03                 ` Zhouyi Zhou
@ 2021-07-18 21:08                   ` Paul E. McKenney
  2021-07-20  1:39                     ` Randy Dunlap
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Paul E. McKenney @ 2021-07-18 21:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Zhouyi Zhou
  Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers, Josh Triplett, rostedt, Lai Jiangshan,
	Joel Fernandes, Google, rcu, linux-kernel, apw, joe, ast, daniel,
	andrii, kafai, songliubraving, yhs, john.fastabend, kpsingh, bpf,
	mingo

On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 06:03:34AM +0800, Zhouyi Zhou wrote:
> Hi Paul
> During the research, I found a already existing tool to detect
> undefined Kconfig macro:
> scripts/checkkconfigsymbols.py. It is marvellous!

Nice!  Maybe I should add this to torture.sh.

> By invoking ./scripts/checkkconfigsymbols.py > /tmp/log, I found
> following possibly undefined Kconfig macros
> which may need our attention:
> 
> PREEMPT_LOCK
> Referencing files: include/linux/lockdep_types.h

Not sure about this one.  It might be in anticipation of -rt functionality.
Or another typo.

> PREEMT_DYNAMIC
> Referencing files: kernel/entry/common.c

This needs to be PREEMPT_DYNAMIC.  Please CC Frederic Weisbecker and
myself if you send a patch.

> TREE_PREEMPT_RCU
> Referencing files: arch/sh/configs/sdk7786_defconfig

This would have been correct back in the day.  It should now be
CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU.  Except that the CONFIG_PREEMPT=y in that same
file implies CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU=y, so best to simply delete the
CONFIG_TREE_PREEMPT_RCU=y line.

> RCU_CPU_STALL_INFO
> Referencing files: arch/xtensa/configs/nommu_kc705_defconfig

You now get RCU_CPU_STALL_INFO whether you want it or not, so this
line should be deleted.

> RCU_NOCB_CPU_ALL
> Referencing files:
> Documentation/RCU/Design/Memory-Ordering/Tree-RCU-Memory-Ordering.rst

This is an old snapshot of the code.  One approach would be to
update this from the real rcu_prepare_for_idle() function in
kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h.  The line numbers in the following paragraph
would need to be updated, but the figure is unaffected.

> RCU_TORTURE_TESTS
> Referencing files: kernel/rcu/rcutorture.c

The final "S" needs to be dropped.

> and finally the macro which drive me to do this research
> 
> TASKS_RCU_TRACE
> Referencing files: include/linux/rcupdate.h, kernel/rcu/tree_plugin.h

The fix for this one is of course already queued.

Please CC me if you decide to create patches.  Otherwise, let me know,
and I can produce fixes.

							Thanx, Paul

> On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 2:09 AM Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 04:45:04PM +0800, Zhouyi Zhou wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 11:51 AM Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 12:44:36PM +0800, Zhouyi Zhou wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 11:19 PM Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 06:18:12AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 09:09:04AM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > > > > > > > ----- On Jul 13, 2021, at 12:16 AM, paulmck paulmck@kernel.org wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 08:56:45AM +0800, zhouzhouyi@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> From: Zhouyi Zhou <zhouzhouyi@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Hi Paul,
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> During my studying of RCU, I did a grep in the kernel source tree.
> > > > > > > > >> I found there are 3 places where the macro name CONFIG_TASKS_RCU_TRACE
> > > > > > > > >> should be CONFIG_TASKS_TRACE_RCU instead.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Without memory fencing, the idle/userspace task inspection may not
> > > > > > > > >> be so accurate.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Thanks for your constant encouragement for my studying.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Best Wishes
> > > > > > > > >> Zhouyi
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Signed-off-by: Zhouyi Zhou <zhouzhouyi@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Good eyes, and those could cause real bugs, so thank you!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Paul,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This makes me wonder: what is missing testing-wise in rcutorture to
> > > > > > > > catch those issues with testing before they reach mainline ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My guess:  Running on weakly ordered architectures.  ;-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And another guess:  A tool that identifies use of Kconfig options
> > > > > > that are not defined in any Kconfig* file.
> > > > > Based on Paul's second guess ;-),  I did a small research, and I think
> > > > > the best answer is to modify scripts/checkpatch.pl. We modify checkpatch.pl
> > > > > to identify use of Kconfig options that are not defined in any Kconfig* file.
> > > > >
> > > > > As I am a C/C++ programmer, I would be glad to take some time to learn
> > > > > perl (checkpatch is implented in perl) first if no other volunteer is
> > > > > about to do it ;-)
> > > >
> > > > I haven't heard anyone else volunteer.  ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Others might have opinions on where best to implement these checks,
> > > > but I must confess that I have not given it much thought.
> > > I recklessly cc the maintainers of checkpatch.pl without your
> > > permission to see others' opion,
> > > and I begin to study perl at the same time, after all, learning
> > > something is always good ;-)
> >
> > Works for me!
> >
> >                                                         Thanx, Paul
> Best Wishes
> Zhouyi

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH] RCU: Fix macro name CONFIG_TASKS_RCU_TRACE
  2021-07-18 21:08                   ` Paul E. McKenney
@ 2021-07-20  1:39                     ` Randy Dunlap
  2021-07-20  2:07                       ` Paul E. McKenney
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Randy Dunlap @ 2021-07-20  1:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: paulmck, Zhouyi Zhou
  Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers, Josh Triplett, rostedt, Lai Jiangshan,
	Joel Fernandes, Google, rcu, linux-kernel, apw, joe, ast, daniel,
	andrii, kafai, songliubraving, yhs, john.fastabend, kpsingh, bpf,
	mingo

On 7/18/21 2:08 PM, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 06:03:34AM +0800, Zhouyi Zhou wrote:
>> Hi Paul
>> During the research, I found a already existing tool to detect
>> undefined Kconfig macro:
>> scripts/checkkconfigsymbols.py. It is marvellous!
> 
> Nice!  Maybe I should add this to torture.sh.
> 

Paul, I believe that subsystems should take care of themselves,
so you can do that for RCU, e.g., but at the same time, I think that
some CI should be running that script (and other relevant scripts)
on the entire kernel tree and reporting problems that are found.

-- 
~Randy


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread

* Re: [PATCH] RCU: Fix macro name CONFIG_TASKS_RCU_TRACE
  2021-07-20  1:39                     ` Randy Dunlap
@ 2021-07-20  2:07                       ` Paul E. McKenney
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Paul E. McKenney @ 2021-07-20  2:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Randy Dunlap
  Cc: Zhouyi Zhou, Mathieu Desnoyers, Josh Triplett, rostedt,
	Lai Jiangshan, Joel Fernandes, Google, rcu, linux-kernel, apw,
	joe, ast, daniel, andrii, kafai, songliubraving, yhs,
	john.fastabend, kpsingh, bpf, mingo

On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 06:39:17PM -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote:
> On 7/18/21 2:08 PM, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 06:03:34AM +0800, Zhouyi Zhou wrote:
> >> Hi Paul
> >> During the research, I found a already existing tool to detect
> >> undefined Kconfig macro:
> >> scripts/checkkconfigsymbols.py. It is marvellous!
> > 
> > Nice!  Maybe I should add this to torture.sh.
> 
> Paul, I believe that subsystems should take care of themselves,
> so you can do that for RCU, e.g., but at the same time, I think that
> some CI should be running that script (and other relevant scripts)
> on the entire kernel tree and reporting problems that are found.

Even better!  ;-)

							Thanx, Paul

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