From: Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@fb.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Joanne Koong <joannelkoong@gmail.com>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v1 1/3] bpf: Add skb dynptrs
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2022 18:27:56 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220804012756.2eqvkofecpthzcoi@kafai-mbp.dhcp.thefacebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220803162540.19d31294@kernel.org>
On Wed, Aug 03, 2022 at 04:25:40PM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> The point of skb_header_pointer() is to expose the chunk of the packet
> pointed to by [skb, offset, len] as a linear buffer. Potentially coping
> it out to a stack buffer *IIF* the header is not contiguous inside the
> skb head, which should very rarely happen.
>
> Here it seems we return an error so that user must pull if the data is
> not linear, which is defeating the purpose. The user of
> skb_header_pointer() wants to avoid the copy while _reliably_ getting
> a contiguous pointer. Plus pulling in the header may be far more
> expensive than a small copy to the stack.
>
> The pointer returned by skb_header_pointer is writable, but it's not
> guaranteed that the writes go to the packet, they may go to the
> on-stack buffer, so the caller must do some sort of:
>
> if (data_ptr == stack_buf)
> skb_store_bits(...);
>
> Which we were thinking of wrapping in some sort of flush operation.
Curious on the idea. don't know whether this is a dynptr helper or
should be a specific pkt helper though.
The idea is to have the prog keeps writing to a ptr (skb->data or stack_buf).
When the prog is done, call a bpf helper to flush. The helper
decides if it needs to flush from stack_buf to skb and
will take care of the cloned skb ?
>
> If I'm reading this right dynptr as implemented here do not provide
> such semantics, am I confused in thinking that this is a continuation
> of the XDP multi-buff discussion? Is it a completely separate thing
> and we'll still need a header_pointer like helper?
Can you share a pointer to the XDP multi-buff discussion?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-08-04 1:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-07-26 18:47 [PATCH bpf-next v1 0/3] Add skb + xdp dynptrs Joanne Koong
2022-07-26 18:47 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 1/3] bpf: Add skb dynptrs Joanne Koong
2022-07-27 17:13 ` sdf
2022-07-28 16:49 ` Joanne Koong
2022-07-28 17:28 ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-07-28 17:45 ` Hao Luo
2022-07-28 18:36 ` Joanne Koong
2022-07-28 23:39 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-07-29 20:26 ` Joanne Koong
2022-07-29 21:39 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-08-01 17:52 ` Joanne Koong
2022-08-01 19:38 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-08-01 21:16 ` Joanne Koong
2022-08-01 22:14 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-08-01 22:32 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-08-01 22:58 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-08-01 23:23 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-08-02 0:56 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-08-02 3:51 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-08-02 4:53 ` Joanne Koong
2022-08-02 5:14 ` Joanne Koong
2022-08-03 20:29 ` Joanne Koong
2022-08-03 20:36 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-08-03 20:56 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-08-03 23:25 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-04 1:05 ` Joanne Koong
2022-08-04 1:34 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-04 3:44 ` Joanne Koong
2022-08-04 1:27 ` Martin KaFai Lau [this message]
2022-08-04 1:44 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-04 22:58 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2022-08-05 23:25 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-01 22:11 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-08-02 0:15 ` Joanne Koong
2022-08-01 23:33 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-02 2:12 ` Joanne Koong
2022-08-04 21:55 ` Joanne Koong
2022-08-05 23:22 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-03 6:37 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-07-26 18:47 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 2/3] bpf: Add xdp dynptrs Joanne Koong
2022-07-26 18:47 ` [PATCH bpf-next v1 3/3] selftests/bpf: tests for using dynptrs to parse skb and xdp buffers Joanne Koong
2022-07-26 19:44 ` Zvi Effron
2022-07-26 20:06 ` Joanne Koong
2022-08-01 17:58 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-08-02 22:56 ` Joanne Koong
2022-08-03 0:53 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-08-03 16:11 ` Joanne Koong
2022-08-04 18:45 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-08-05 16:29 ` Joanne Koong
2022-08-01 19:12 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-08-02 22:21 ` Joanne Koong
2022-08-04 21:46 ` Joanne Koong
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