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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: "John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	"Björn Töpel" <bjorn.topel@intel.com>,
	"Maciej Fijalkowski" <maciej.fijalkowski@intel.com>,
	daniel@iogearbox.net, ast@kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Cc: andrii@kernel.org, magnus.karlsson@intel.com, ciara.loftus@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 1/3] libbpf: xsk: use bpf_link
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2021 22:38:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8735xxc8pf.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <602ad80c566ea_3ed4120871@john-XPS-13-9370.notmuch>

John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com> writes:

>> > However, in libxdp we can solve the original problem in a different way,
>> > and in fact I already suggested to Magnus that we should do this (see
>> > [1]); so one way forward could be to address it during the merge in
>> > libxdp? It should be possible to address the original issue (two
>> > instances of xdpsock breaking each other when they exit), but
>> > applications will still need to do an explicit unload operation before
>> > exiting (i.e., the automatic detach on bpf_link fd closure will take
>> > more work, and likely require extending the bpf_link kernel support)...
>> >
>> 
>> I'd say it's depending on the libbpf 1.0/libxdp merge timeframe. If
>> we're months ahead, then I'd really like to see this in libbpf until the
>> merge. However, I'll leave that for Magnus/you to decide!
>
> Did I miss some thread? What does this mean libbpf 1.0/libxdp merge?

The idea is to keep libbpf focused on bpf, and move the AF_XDP stuff to
libxdp (so the socket stuff in xsk.h). We're adding the existing code
wholesale, and keeping API compatibility during the move, so all that's
needed is adding -lxdp when compiling. And obviously the existing libbpf
code isn't going anywhere until such a time as there's a general
backwards compatibility-breaking deprecation in libbpf (which I believe
Andrii is planning to do in an upcoming and as-of-yet unannounced v1.0
release).

While integrating the XSK code into libxdp we're trying to make it
compatible with the rest of the library (i.e., multi-prog). Hence my
preference to avoid introducing something that makes this harder :)

-Toke


  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-15 21:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-15 15:46 [PATCH bpf-next 0/3] Introduce bpf_link in libbpf's xsk Maciej Fijalkowski
2021-02-15 15:46 ` [PATCH bpf-next 1/3] libbpf: xsk: use bpf_link Maciej Fijalkowski
2021-02-15 17:07   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-02-15 17:38     ` Björn Töpel
2021-02-15 19:35       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-02-16  2:01         ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2021-02-16  9:15           ` Björn Töpel
2021-02-16 10:27           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-02-16 20:15             ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2021-02-15 20:22       ` John Fastabend
2021-02-15 21:38         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2021-02-16  0:18           ` John Fastabend
2021-02-16  2:23             ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2021-02-16  9:23               ` Björn Töpel
2021-02-16 10:36             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-02-23  1:15               ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-02-17  2:23           ` Dan Siemon
2021-02-17  7:16             ` Magnus Karlsson
2021-02-17  7:36               ` Magnus Karlsson
2021-02-16  2:10         ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2021-02-15 20:49   ` John Fastabend
2021-02-16  2:38     ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2021-02-16 18:19       ` John Fastabend
2021-02-16 20:10         ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2021-02-16  9:20     ` Björn Töpel
2021-02-16 10:39       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-02-16 19:15         ` John Fastabend
2021-02-16 20:50           ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2021-02-16 21:17             ` John Fastabend
2021-02-15 15:46 ` [PATCH bpf-next 2/3] libbpf: clear map_info before each bpf_obj_get_info_by_fd Maciej Fijalkowski
2021-02-15 20:33   ` John Fastabend
2021-02-16  2:42     ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2021-02-15 15:46 ` [PATCH bpf-next 3/3] samples: bpf: do not unload prog within xdpsock Maciej Fijalkowski
2021-02-15 20:24   ` John Fastabend
2021-02-16  9:22     ` Björn Töpel
2021-02-16 14:15       ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2021-02-15 16:07 ` [PATCH bpf-next 0/3] Introduce bpf_link in libbpf's xsk Björn Töpel

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