From: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>
Cc: "Martin KaFai Lau" <kafai@fb.com>,
"Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>,
"Cong Wang" <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
"David Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii@kernel.org>,
"John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
"Lorenz Bauer" <lmb@cloudflare.com>,
"Linux Kernel Network Developers" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, kernel-team <kernel-team@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH bpf-next] bpf: Introduce bpf_timer
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2021 11:26:40 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAADnVQJTJzxzig=1vvAUMXELUoOwm2vXq0ahP4mfhBWGsCm9QA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210602181333.3m4vz2xqd5klbvyf@apollo>
On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 11:14 AM Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
<memxor@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 02, 2021 at 11:24:36PM IST, Martin KaFai Lau wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 02, 2021 at 10:48:02AM +0200, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
> > > Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com> writes:
> > >
> > > >> > In general the garbage collection in any form doesn't scale.
> > > >> > The conntrack logic doesn't need it. The cillium conntrack is a great
> > > >> > example of how to implement a conntrack without GC.
> > > >>
> > > >> That is simply not a conntrack. We expire connections based on
> > > >> its time, not based on the size of the map where it residents.
> > > >
> > > > Sounds like your goal is to replicate existing kernel conntrack
> > > > as bpf program by doing exactly the same algorithm and repeating
> > > > the same mistakes. Then add kernel conntrack functions to allow list
> > > > of kfuncs (unstable helpers) and call them from your bpf progs.
> > >
> > > FYI, we're working on exactly this (exposing kernel conntrack to BPF).
> > > Hoping to have something to show for our efforts before too long, but
> > > it's still in a bit of an early stage...
> > Just curious, what conntrack functions will be made callable to BPF?
>
> Initially we're planning to expose the equivalent of nf_conntrack_in and
> nf_conntrack_confirm to XDP and TC programs (so XDP one works without an skb,
> and TC one works with an skb), to map these to higher level lookup/insert.
To make sure we're on the same page...
I still strongly prefer to avoid exposing conntrack via stable helpers.
Pls use kfunc and unstable interface.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-06-02 18:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-05-20 18:55 [RFC PATCH bpf-next] bpf: Introduce bpf_timer Alexei Starovoitov
2021-05-21 14:38 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-05-21 21:37 ` Cong Wang
2021-05-23 16:01 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-05-24 8:45 ` Lorenz Bauer
2021-05-25 3:16 ` Cong Wang
2021-05-25 4:59 ` Cong Wang
2021-05-25 18:21 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-05-25 19:35 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2021-05-25 19:57 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-05-25 21:09 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2021-05-25 22:08 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-05-26 15:34 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2021-05-26 16:58 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-05-26 18:25 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2021-05-30 6:36 ` Cong Wang
2021-06-02 2:00 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-06-02 8:48 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-06-02 17:54 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2021-06-02 18:13 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2021-06-02 18:26 ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2021-06-02 18:30 ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2021-06-02 18:46 ` John Fastabend
2021-05-23 11:48 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-05-23 15:58 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-05-24 8:42 ` Lorenz Bauer
2021-05-24 14:48 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-05-24 17:33 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-05-24 18:39 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-05-24 18:38 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-05-24 11:49 ` Lorenz Bauer
2021-05-24 14:56 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-05-24 19:13 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-05-25 5:22 ` Cong Wang
2021-05-25 19:47 ` Andrii Nakryiko
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-04-01 4:26 [RFC Patch bpf-next] bpf: introduce bpf timer Cong Wang
2021-04-01 6:38 ` Song Liu
2021-04-01 17:28 ` Cong Wang
2021-04-01 20:17 ` Song Liu
2021-04-02 17:34 ` Cong Wang
2021-04-02 17:57 ` Song Liu
2021-04-02 19:08 ` Cong Wang
2021-04-02 19:43 ` Song Liu
2021-04-02 20:57 ` Cong Wang
2021-04-02 23:31 ` Song Liu
2021-04-05 23:49 ` Cong Wang
2021-04-06 1:07 ` Song Liu
2021-04-06 1:24 ` Cong Wang
2021-04-06 6:17 ` Song Liu
2021-04-06 16:48 ` Cong Wang
2021-04-06 23:36 ` Song Liu
2021-04-08 22:45 ` Cong Wang
2021-04-02 19:28 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-04-02 21:24 ` Cong Wang
2021-04-02 23:45 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-04-06 0:36 ` Cong Wang
2021-04-12 23:01 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-04-15 4:02 ` Cong Wang
2021-04-15 4:25 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-04-15 15:51 ` Cong Wang
2021-04-26 23:00 ` Cong Wang
2021-04-26 23:05 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-04-26 23:37 ` Cong Wang
2021-04-27 2:01 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-04-27 11:52 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2021-04-27 16:36 ` Cong Wang
2021-04-27 18:33 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-05-09 5:37 ` Cong Wang
2021-05-10 20:55 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2021-05-11 21:29 ` Cong Wang
2021-05-12 22:56 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2021-05-11 5:05 ` Joe Stringer
2021-05-11 21:08 ` Cong Wang
2021-05-12 22:43 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2021-05-13 18:45 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2021-05-14 2:53 ` Cong Wang
2021-08-11 21:03 ` Joe Stringer
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