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From: Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo.bianconi@redhat.com>
To: Zvi Effron <zeffron@riotgames.com>
Cc: "Alexei Starovoitov" <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>,
	"Lorenzo Bianconi" <lorenzo@kernel.org>,
	bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, Networking <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"Shay Agroskin" <shayagr@amazon.com>,
	"john fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	"David Ahern" <dsahern@kernel.org>,
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	"Saeed Mahameed" <saeed@kernel.org>,
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	"Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v21 bpf-next 18/23] libbpf: Add SEC name for xdp_mb programs
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 21:12:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yd82J8vxSAR9tvQt@lore-desk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC1LvL0CeTw+YKjO6r0f68Ly3tK4qhDyjV0ak82e0PpHURVQOw@mail.gmail.com>

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> On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 11:47 AM Alexei Starovoitov
> <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 11:21 AM Andrii Nakryiko
> > <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 11:17 AM Alexei Starovoitov
> > > <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 10:24 AM Andrii Nakryiko
> > > > <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 10:18 AM Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 7:05 AM Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Introduce support for the following SEC entries for XDP multi-buff
> > > > > > > > property:
> > > > > > > > - SEC("xdp_mb/")
> > > > > > > > - SEC("xdp_devmap_mb/")
> > > > > > > > - SEC("xdp_cpumap_mb/")
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Libbpf seemed to went with .<suffix> rule (e.g., fentry.s for
> > > > > > > sleepable, seems like we'll have kprobe.multi or  something along
> > > > > > > those lines as well), so let's stay consistent and call this "xdp_mb",
> > > > > > > "xdp_devmap.mb", "xdp_cpumap.mb" (btw, is "mb" really all that
> > > > > > > recognizable? would ".multibuf" be too verbose?). Also, why the "/"
> > > > > > > part? Also it shouldn't be "sloppy" either. Neither expected attach
> > > > > > > type should be optional.  Also not sure SEC_ATTACHABLE is needed. So
> > > > > > > at most it should be SEC_XDP_MB, probably.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ack, I fine with it. Something like:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >         SEC_DEF("lsm.s/",               LSM, BPF_LSM_MAC, SEC_ATTACH_BTF | SEC_SLEEPABLE, attach_lsm),
> > > > > >         SEC_DEF("iter/",                TRACING, BPF_TRACE_ITER, SEC_ATTACH_BTF, attach_iter),
> > > > > >         SEC_DEF("syscall",              SYSCALL, 0, SEC_SLEEPABLE),
> > > > > > +       SEC_DEF("xdp_devmap.multibuf",  XDP, BPF_XDP_DEVMAP, 0),
> > > > > >         SEC_DEF("xdp_devmap/",          XDP, BPF_XDP_DEVMAP, SEC_ATTACHABLE),
> > > > > > +       SEC_DEF("xdp_cpumap.multibuf",  XDP, BPF_XDP_CPUMAP, 0),
> > > > > >         SEC_DEF("xdp_cpumap/",          XDP, BPF_XDP_CPUMAP, SEC_ATTACHABLE),
> > > > > > +       SEC_DEF("xdp.multibuf",         XDP, BPF_XDP, 0),
> > > > >
> > > > > yep, but please use SEC_NONE instead of zero
> > > > >
> > > > > >         SEC_DEF("xdp",                  XDP, BPF_XDP, SEC_ATTACHABLE_OPT | SEC_SLOPPY_PFX),
> > > > > >         SEC_DEF("perf_event",           PERF_EVENT, 0, SEC_NONE | SEC_SLOPPY_PFX),
> > > > > >         SEC_DEF("lwt_in",               LWT_IN, 0, SEC_NONE | SEC_SLOPPY_PFX),
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Acked-by: Toke Hoiland-Jorgensen <toke@redhat.com>
> > > > > > > > Acked-by: John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org>
> > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > >  tools/lib/bpf/libbpf.c | 8 ++++++++
> > > > > > > >  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > diff --git a/tools/lib/bpf/libbpf.c b/tools/lib/bpf/libbpf.c
> > > > > > > > index 7f10dd501a52..c93f6afef96c 100644
> > > > > > > > --- a/tools/lib/bpf/libbpf.c
> > > > > > > > +++ b/tools/lib/bpf/libbpf.c
> > > > > > > > @@ -235,6 +235,8 @@ enum sec_def_flags {
> > > > > > > >         SEC_SLEEPABLE = 8,
> > > > > > > >         /* allow non-strict prefix matching */
> > > > > > > >         SEC_SLOPPY_PFX = 16,
> > > > > > > > +       /* BPF program support XDP multi-buff */
> > > > > > > > +       SEC_XDP_MB = 32,
> > > > > > > >  };
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  struct bpf_sec_def {
> > > > > > > > @@ -6562,6 +6564,9 @@ static int libbpf_preload_prog(struct bpf_program *prog,
> > > > > > > >         if (def & SEC_SLEEPABLE)
> > > > > > > >                 opts->prog_flags |= BPF_F_SLEEPABLE;
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > +       if (prog->type == BPF_PROG_TYPE_XDP && (def & SEC_XDP_MB))
> > > > > > > > +               opts->prog_flags |= BPF_F_XDP_MB;
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'd say you don't even need SEC_XDP_MB flag at all, you can just check
> > > > > > > that prog->sec_name is one of "xdp.mb", "xdp_devmap.mb" or
> > > > > > > "xdp_cpumap.mb" and add the flag. SEC_XDP_MB doesn't seem generic
> > > > > > > enough to warrant a flag.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ack, something like:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > +       if (prog->type == BPF_PROG_TYPE_XDP &&
> > > > > > +           (!strcmp(prog->sec_name, "xdp_devmap.multibuf") ||
> > > > > > +            !strcmp(prog->sec_name, "xdp_cpumap.multibuf") ||
> > > > > > +            !strcmp(prog->sec_name, "xdp.multibuf")))
> > > > > > +               opts->prog_flags |= BPF_F_XDP_MB;
> > > > >
> > > > > yep, can also simplify it a bit with strstr(prog->sec_name,
> > > > > ".multibuf") instead of three strcmp
> > > >
> > > > Maybe ".mb" ?
> > > > ".multibuf" is too verbose.
> > > > We're fine with ".s" for sleepable :)
> > >
> > >
> > > I had reservations about "mb" because the first and strong association
> > > is "megabyte", not "multibuf". And it's not like anyone would have
> > > tens of those programs in a single file so that ".multibuf" becomes
> > > way too verbose. But I don't feel too strongly about this, if the
> > > consensus is on ".mb".
> >
> > The rest of the patches are using _mb everywhere.
> > I would keep libbpf consistent.
> 
> Should the rest of the patches maybe use "multibuf" instead of "mb"? I've been
> following this patch series closely and excitedly, and I keep having to remind
> myself that "mb" is "multibuff" and not "megabyte". If I'm having to correct
> myself while following the patch series, I'm wondering if future confusion is
> inevitable?
> 
> But, is it enough confusion to be worth updating many other patches? I'm not
> sure.
> 
> I agree consistency is more important than the specific term we're consistent
> on.

I would prefer to keep the "_mb" postfix, but naming is hard and I am polarized :)

Regards,
Lorenzo

> 
> --Zvi
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-12 20:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-08 11:53 [PATCH v21 bpf-next 00/23] mvneta: introduce XDP multi-buffer support Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-08 11:53 ` [PATCH v21 bpf-next 01/23] net: skbuff: add size metadata to skb_shared_info for xdp Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-08 11:53 ` [PATCH v21 bpf-next 02/23] xdp: introduce flags field in xdp_buff/xdp_frame Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-08 11:53 ` [PATCH v21 bpf-next 03/23] net: mvneta: update mb bit before passing the xdp buffer to eBPF layer Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-08 11:53 ` [PATCH v21 bpf-next 04/23] net: mvneta: simplify mvneta_swbm_add_rx_fragment management Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-08 11:53 ` [PATCH v21 bpf-next 05/23] net: xdp: add xdp_update_skb_shared_info utility routine Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-08 11:53 ` [PATCH v21 bpf-next 06/23] net: marvell: rely on " Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-10 16:37   ` Andy Gospodarek
2022-01-11 13:05     ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-11 14:29       ` Andy Gospodarek
2022-01-08 11:53 ` [PATCH v21 bpf-next 07/23] xdp: add multi-buff support to xdp_return_{buff/frame} Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-08 11:53 ` [PATCH v21 bpf-next 08/23] net: mvneta: add multi buffer support to XDP_TX Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-08 11:53 ` [PATCH v21 bpf-next 09/23] bpf: introduce BPF_F_XDP_MB flag in prog_flags loading the ebpf program Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-08 11:53 ` [PATCH v21 bpf-next 10/23] net: mvneta: enable jumbo frames if the loaded XDP program support mb Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-08 11:53 ` [PATCH v21 bpf-next 11/23] bpf: introduce bpf_xdp_get_buff_len helper Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-08 11:53 ` [PATCH v21 bpf-next 12/23] bpf: add multi-buff support to the bpf_xdp_adjust_tail() API Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-08 11:53 ` [PATCH v21 bpf-next 13/23] bpf: add multi-buffer support to xdp copy helpers Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-08 11:53 ` [PATCH v21 bpf-next 14/23] bpf: move user_size out of bpf_test_init Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-08 11:53 ` [PATCH v21 bpf-next 15/23] bpf: introduce multibuff support to bpf_prog_test_run_xdp() Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-08 11:53 ` [PATCH v21 bpf-next 16/23] bpf: test_run: add xdp_shared_info pointer in bpf_test_finish signature Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-08 11:53 ` [PATCH v21 bpf-next 17/23] bpf: selftests: update xdp_adjust_tail selftest to include multi-buffer Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-08 11:53 ` [PATCH v21 bpf-next 18/23] libbpf: Add SEC name for xdp_mb programs Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-10  2:16   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-01-12 18:17     ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-12 18:24       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-01-12 18:35         ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-12 19:16         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-01-12 19:20           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-01-12 19:47             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-01-12 20:04               ` Zvi Effron
2022-01-12 20:12                 ` Lorenzo Bianconi [this message]
2022-01-12 22:04                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-01-13  9:38                     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-01-13 10:22                       ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-13 20:19                         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-01-13 23:58                           ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-14  2:09                             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-01-14 16:50                               ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-01-14 18:55                                 ` Zvi Effron
2022-01-14 19:36                                   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-01-26 16:11                                     ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-26 20:12                                       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-01-14 16:35                           ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-14 19:35                             ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-01-08 11:53 ` [PATCH v21 bpf-next 19/23] bpf: generalise tail call map compatibility check Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-08 11:53 ` [PATCH v21 bpf-next 20/23] net: xdp: introduce bpf_xdp_pointer utility routine Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-08 11:53 ` [PATCH v21 bpf-next 21/23] bpf: selftests: introduce bpf_xdp_{load,store}_bytes selftest Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-08 11:53 ` [PATCH v21 bpf-next 22/23] bpf: selftests: add CPUMAP/DEVMAP selftests for xdp multi-buff Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-08 11:53 ` [PATCH v21 bpf-next 23/23] xdp: disable XDP_REDIRECT " Lorenzo Bianconi
2022-01-12 18:55 ` [PATCH v21 bpf-next 00/23] mvneta: introduce XDP multi-buffer support Lorenzo Bianconi

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