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From: Lucas Stach <l.stach@pengutronix.de>
To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>, Adam Ford <aford173@gmail.com>
Cc: Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@vanguardiasur.com.ar>,
	linux-media <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard@collabora.com>,
	Chris Healy <cphealy@gmail.com>,
	Adam Ford-BE <aford@beaconembedded.com>,
	Nicolas Dufresne <nicolas@ndufresne.ca>,
	Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Shawn Guo <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	Pengutronix Kernel Team <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	Fabio Estevam <festevam@gmail.com>,
	NXP Linux Team <linux-imx@nxp.com>,
	 Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"open list:HANTRO VPU CODEC DRIVER"
	<linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org>,
	devicetree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	 arm-soc <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:STAGING SUBSYSTEM" <linux-staging@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/10] dt-bindings: media: nxp,imx8mq-vpu: Support split G1 and G2 nodes with vpu-blk-ctrl
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2021 16:58:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c88b7a90f7a3bf94fc0cbb9a6f967ce769d5c03b.camel@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YbNz94G3vwbHCMdB@robh.at.kernel.org>

Am Freitag, dem 10.12.2021 um 09:36 -0600 schrieb Rob Herring:
> On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 05:36:04AM -0600, Adam Ford wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 4:26 AM Ezequiel Garcia
> > <ezequiel@vanguardiasur.com.ar> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > Thanks for the patch.
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Dec 08, 2021 at 04:50:23PM -0600, Adam Ford wrote:
> > > > The G1 and G2 are separate decoder blocks that are enabled by the
> > > > vpu-blk-ctrl power-domain controller, which now has a proper driver.
> > > > Update the bindings to support separate nodes for the G1 and G2
> > > > decoders using the proper driver or the older unified node with
> > > > the legacy controls.
> > > > 
> > > > To be compatible with older DT the driver, mark certain items as
> > > > deprecated and retain the backwards compatible example.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Adam Ford <aford173@gmail.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  .../bindings/media/nxp,imx8mq-vpu.yaml        | 83 ++++++++++++++-----
> > > >  1 file changed, 64 insertions(+), 19 deletions(-)
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/nxp,imx8mq-vpu.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/nxp,imx8mq-vpu.yaml
> > > > index 762be3f96ce9..eeb7bd6281f9 100644
> > > > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/nxp,imx8mq-vpu.yaml
> > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/nxp,imx8mq-vpu.yaml
> > > > @@ -15,29 +15,39 @@ description:
> > > > 
> > > >  properties:
> > > >    compatible:
> > > > -    const: nxp,imx8mq-vpu
> > > > +    oneOf:
> > > > +      - const: nxp,imx8mq-vpu
> > > > +        deprecated: true
> > > > +      - const: nxp,imx8mq-vpu-g1
> > > > +      - const: nxp,imx8mq-vpu-g2
> > > > 
> > > >    reg:
> > > > +    minItems: 1
> > > >      maxItems: 3
> > > 
> > > Is it really useful to keep the deprecated binding nxp,imx8mq-vpu
> > > as something supported by the binding file?
> > 
> > Since I was told that the driver needed to be backwards compatible, i
> > wanted to make sure that any attempts to build the old device tree
> > would not fail
> 
> I'm not convinced changing the binding at all is correct. 'The driver 
> structure is changing and I want the binding to align with it' is not a 
> reason. Are G1 and G2 actually separate, independent blocks where we 
> could have 1 or both of them? And what about other platforms using this 
> block?

Yes, they are totally independent video decoder peripherals, handling
different codecs. While I'm not aware that there is a SKU that only
uses one of them, there is a provision in the fuses to disable either
one of the VPU peripherals, so they clearly can work independently.

Smashing them together in one DT node was a mistake IMO. Both VPUs do
not share more than a common power-domain and use the same AMBA domain
bridge to hook into to SoC NoC. On the i.MX8M Mini we have a similar
VPU subsystem, but with nested power domains, so G1, G2 and the new H1
encoder on this chip can even be powered-gated individually.

I agree that the commit message should point out that new DT + old
kernel is not a supported configuration. It isn't optimal, but IMHO a
small price to pay for the ability to handle all the i.MX8M* family VPU
subsystems in the same way with a proper blk-ctrl driver for the common
clock and reset block and the VPUs being independent peripherals.

> 
> Even if the driver handles the old binding, a new dtb with an old kernel 
> is broken. It's up to the platform to care or not, but you have to 
> highlight that.
> 
> 
> > > In other words, can we drop the deprecated binding from this file,
> > > while keeping the support in the driver for legacy device-trees?
> > 
> > I was trying to represent both the old driver binding and the new one
> > at the same time.  I thought that's what I was told to do.
> 
> I don't care so much if we have a schema for old binding. I'd rather 
> have warnings if the binding has not been updated. Eventually I want to 
> be able to test for compatibility by testing DTs with different schema 
> versions. We've got to get to 0 warnings first though...

I'm in favor of dropping the old binding from the schema. New DTs
should clearly use the new binding and old DTs shouldn't change
anymore, so validation is less useful there.

Regards,
Lucas


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From: Lucas Stach <l.stach@pengutronix.de>
To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>, Adam Ford <aford173@gmail.com>
Cc: Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@vanguardiasur.com.ar>,
	linux-media <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard@collabora.com>,
	Chris Healy <cphealy@gmail.com>,
	Adam Ford-BE <aford@beaconembedded.com>,
	Nicolas Dufresne <nicolas@ndufresne.ca>,
	Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Shawn Guo <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	Pengutronix Kernel Team <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	Fabio Estevam <festevam@gmail.com>,
	NXP Linux Team <linux-imx@nxp.com>,
	 Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"open list:HANTRO VPU CODEC DRIVER"
	<linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org>,
	devicetree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	 arm-soc <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:STAGING SUBSYSTEM" <linux-staging@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/10] dt-bindings: media: nxp,imx8mq-vpu: Support split G1 and G2 nodes with vpu-blk-ctrl
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2021 16:58:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c88b7a90f7a3bf94fc0cbb9a6f967ce769d5c03b.camel@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YbNz94G3vwbHCMdB@robh.at.kernel.org>

Am Freitag, dem 10.12.2021 um 09:36 -0600 schrieb Rob Herring:
> On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 05:36:04AM -0600, Adam Ford wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 4:26 AM Ezequiel Garcia
> > <ezequiel@vanguardiasur.com.ar> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > Thanks for the patch.
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Dec 08, 2021 at 04:50:23PM -0600, Adam Ford wrote:
> > > > The G1 and G2 are separate decoder blocks that are enabled by the
> > > > vpu-blk-ctrl power-domain controller, which now has a proper driver.
> > > > Update the bindings to support separate nodes for the G1 and G2
> > > > decoders using the proper driver or the older unified node with
> > > > the legacy controls.
> > > > 
> > > > To be compatible with older DT the driver, mark certain items as
> > > > deprecated and retain the backwards compatible example.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Adam Ford <aford173@gmail.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  .../bindings/media/nxp,imx8mq-vpu.yaml        | 83 ++++++++++++++-----
> > > >  1 file changed, 64 insertions(+), 19 deletions(-)
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/nxp,imx8mq-vpu.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/nxp,imx8mq-vpu.yaml
> > > > index 762be3f96ce9..eeb7bd6281f9 100644
> > > > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/nxp,imx8mq-vpu.yaml
> > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/nxp,imx8mq-vpu.yaml
> > > > @@ -15,29 +15,39 @@ description:
> > > > 
> > > >  properties:
> > > >    compatible:
> > > > -    const: nxp,imx8mq-vpu
> > > > +    oneOf:
> > > > +      - const: nxp,imx8mq-vpu
> > > > +        deprecated: true
> > > > +      - const: nxp,imx8mq-vpu-g1
> > > > +      - const: nxp,imx8mq-vpu-g2
> > > > 
> > > >    reg:
> > > > +    minItems: 1
> > > >      maxItems: 3
> > > 
> > > Is it really useful to keep the deprecated binding nxp,imx8mq-vpu
> > > as something supported by the binding file?
> > 
> > Since I was told that the driver needed to be backwards compatible, i
> > wanted to make sure that any attempts to build the old device tree
> > would not fail
> 
> I'm not convinced changing the binding at all is correct. 'The driver 
> structure is changing and I want the binding to align with it' is not a 
> reason. Are G1 and G2 actually separate, independent blocks where we 
> could have 1 or both of them? And what about other platforms using this 
> block?

Yes, they are totally independent video decoder peripherals, handling
different codecs. While I'm not aware that there is a SKU that only
uses one of them, there is a provision in the fuses to disable either
one of the VPU peripherals, so they clearly can work independently.

Smashing them together in one DT node was a mistake IMO. Both VPUs do
not share more than a common power-domain and use the same AMBA domain
bridge to hook into to SoC NoC. On the i.MX8M Mini we have a similar
VPU subsystem, but with nested power domains, so G1, G2 and the new H1
encoder on this chip can even be powered-gated individually.

I agree that the commit message should point out that new DT + old
kernel is not a supported configuration. It isn't optimal, but IMHO a
small price to pay for the ability to handle all the i.MX8M* family VPU
subsystems in the same way with a proper blk-ctrl driver for the common
clock and reset block and the VPUs being independent peripherals.

> 
> Even if the driver handles the old binding, a new dtb with an old kernel 
> is broken. It's up to the platform to care or not, but you have to 
> highlight that.
> 
> 
> > > In other words, can we drop the deprecated binding from this file,
> > > while keeping the support in the driver for legacy device-trees?
> > 
> > I was trying to represent both the old driver binding and the new one
> > at the same time.  I thought that's what I was told to do.
> 
> I don't care so much if we have a schema for old binding. I'd rather 
> have warnings if the binding has not been updated. Eventually I want to 
> be able to test for compatibility by testing DTs with different schema 
> versions. We've got to get to 0 warnings first though...

I'm in favor of dropping the old binding from the schema. New DTs
should clearly use the new binding and old DTs shouldn't change
anymore, so validation is less useful there.

Regards,
Lucas


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From: Lucas Stach <l.stach@pengutronix.de>
To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>, Adam Ford <aford173@gmail.com>
Cc: Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel@vanguardiasur.com.ar>,
	linux-media <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard@collabora.com>,
	Chris Healy <cphealy@gmail.com>,
	Adam Ford-BE <aford@beaconembedded.com>,
	Nicolas Dufresne <nicolas@ndufresne.ca>,
	Philipp Zabel <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Shawn Guo <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	Pengutronix Kernel Team <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	Fabio Estevam <festevam@gmail.com>,
	NXP Linux Team <linux-imx@nxp.com>,
	 Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"open list:HANTRO VPU CODEC DRIVER"
	<linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org>,
	devicetree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	 arm-soc <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:STAGING SUBSYSTEM" <linux-staging@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/10] dt-bindings: media: nxp,imx8mq-vpu: Support split G1 and G2 nodes with vpu-blk-ctrl
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2021 16:58:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c88b7a90f7a3bf94fc0cbb9a6f967ce769d5c03b.camel@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YbNz94G3vwbHCMdB@robh.at.kernel.org>

Am Freitag, dem 10.12.2021 um 09:36 -0600 schrieb Rob Herring:
> On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 05:36:04AM -0600, Adam Ford wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 4:26 AM Ezequiel Garcia
> > <ezequiel@vanguardiasur.com.ar> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > Thanks for the patch.
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Dec 08, 2021 at 04:50:23PM -0600, Adam Ford wrote:
> > > > The G1 and G2 are separate decoder blocks that are enabled by the
> > > > vpu-blk-ctrl power-domain controller, which now has a proper driver.
> > > > Update the bindings to support separate nodes for the G1 and G2
> > > > decoders using the proper driver or the older unified node with
> > > > the legacy controls.
> > > > 
> > > > To be compatible with older DT the driver, mark certain items as
> > > > deprecated and retain the backwards compatible example.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Adam Ford <aford173@gmail.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  .../bindings/media/nxp,imx8mq-vpu.yaml        | 83 ++++++++++++++-----
> > > >  1 file changed, 64 insertions(+), 19 deletions(-)
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/nxp,imx8mq-vpu.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/nxp,imx8mq-vpu.yaml
> > > > index 762be3f96ce9..eeb7bd6281f9 100644
> > > > --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/nxp,imx8mq-vpu.yaml
> > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/nxp,imx8mq-vpu.yaml
> > > > @@ -15,29 +15,39 @@ description:
> > > > 
> > > >  properties:
> > > >    compatible:
> > > > -    const: nxp,imx8mq-vpu
> > > > +    oneOf:
> > > > +      - const: nxp,imx8mq-vpu
> > > > +        deprecated: true
> > > > +      - const: nxp,imx8mq-vpu-g1
> > > > +      - const: nxp,imx8mq-vpu-g2
> > > > 
> > > >    reg:
> > > > +    minItems: 1
> > > >      maxItems: 3
> > > 
> > > Is it really useful to keep the deprecated binding nxp,imx8mq-vpu
> > > as something supported by the binding file?
> > 
> > Since I was told that the driver needed to be backwards compatible, i
> > wanted to make sure that any attempts to build the old device tree
> > would not fail
> 
> I'm not convinced changing the binding at all is correct. 'The driver 
> structure is changing and I want the binding to align with it' is not a 
> reason. Are G1 and G2 actually separate, independent blocks where we 
> could have 1 or both of them? And what about other platforms using this 
> block?

Yes, they are totally independent video decoder peripherals, handling
different codecs. While I'm not aware that there is a SKU that only
uses one of them, there is a provision in the fuses to disable either
one of the VPU peripherals, so they clearly can work independently.

Smashing them together in one DT node was a mistake IMO. Both VPUs do
not share more than a common power-domain and use the same AMBA domain
bridge to hook into to SoC NoC. On the i.MX8M Mini we have a similar
VPU subsystem, but with nested power domains, so G1, G2 and the new H1
encoder on this chip can even be powered-gated individually.

I agree that the commit message should point out that new DT + old
kernel is not a supported configuration. It isn't optimal, but IMHO a
small price to pay for the ability to handle all the i.MX8M* family VPU
subsystems in the same way with a proper blk-ctrl driver for the common
clock and reset block and the VPUs being independent peripherals.

> 
> Even if the driver handles the old binding, a new dtb with an old kernel 
> is broken. It's up to the platform to care or not, but you have to 
> highlight that.
> 
> 
> > > In other words, can we drop the deprecated binding from this file,
> > > while keeping the support in the driver for legacy device-trees?
> > 
> > I was trying to represent both the old driver binding and the new one
> > at the same time.  I thought that's what I was told to do.
> 
> I don't care so much if we have a schema for old binding. I'd rather 
> have warnings if the binding has not been updated. Eventually I want to 
> be able to test for compatibility by testing DTs with different schema 
> versions. We've got to get to 0 warnings first though...

I'm in favor of dropping the old binding from the schema. New DTs
should clearly use the new binding and old DTs shouldn't change
anymore, so validation is less useful there.

Regards,
Lucas


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linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel

  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-10 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-08 22:50 [PATCH 00/10] media: hantro: imx8mq/imx8mm: Let VPU decoders get controlled by vpu-blk-ctrl Adam Ford
2021-12-08 22:50 ` Adam Ford
2021-12-08 22:50 ` Adam Ford
2021-12-08 22:50 ` [PATCH 01/10] dt-bindings: power: imx8mq: add defines for VPU blk-ctrl domains Adam Ford
2021-12-08 22:50   ` Adam Ford
2021-12-08 22:50   ` Adam Ford
2021-12-08 22:50 ` [PATCH 02/10] dt-bindings: soc: add binding for i.MX8MQ VPU blk-ctrl Adam Ford
2021-12-08 22:50   ` Adam Ford
2021-12-08 22:50   ` Adam Ford
2021-12-08 22:50 ` [PATCH 03/10] soc: imx: imx8m-blk-ctrl: add " Adam Ford
2021-12-08 22:50   ` Adam Ford
2021-12-08 22:50   ` Adam Ford
2021-12-08 22:50 ` [PATCH 04/10] dt-bindings: media: nxp,imx8mq-vpu: Support split G1 and G2 nodes with vpu-blk-ctrl Adam Ford
2021-12-08 22:50   ` [PATCH 04/10] dt-bindings: media: nxp, imx8mq-vpu: " Adam Ford
2021-12-08 22:50   ` Adam Ford
2021-12-09  3:08   ` [PATCH 04/10] dt-bindings: media: nxp,imx8mq-vpu: " Rob Herring
2021-12-09  3:08     ` [PATCH 04/10] dt-bindings: media: nxp, imx8mq-vpu: " Rob Herring
2021-12-09  3:08     ` Rob Herring
2021-12-09 10:26   ` [PATCH 04/10] dt-bindings: media: nxp,imx8mq-vpu: " Ezequiel Garcia
2021-12-09 10:26     ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-12-09 10:26     ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-12-09 11:36     ` Adam Ford
2021-12-09 11:36       ` Adam Ford
2021-12-09 11:36       ` Adam Ford
2021-12-10 15:36       ` Rob Herring
2021-12-10 15:36         ` Rob Herring
2021-12-10 15:36         ` Rob Herring
2021-12-10 15:58         ` Lucas Stach [this message]
2021-12-10 15:58           ` Lucas Stach
2021-12-10 15:58           ` Lucas Stach
2021-12-10 17:02           ` Adam Ford
2021-12-10 17:02             ` Adam Ford
2021-12-10 17:02             ` Adam Ford
2021-12-10 18:32             ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-12-10 18:32               ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-12-10 18:32               ` Ezequiel Garcia
2021-12-08 22:50 ` [PATCH 05/10] media: hantro: Allow i.MX8MQ G1 and G2 to run independently Adam Ford
2021-12-08 22:50   ` Adam Ford
2021-12-08 22:50   ` Adam Ford
2021-12-08 22:50 ` [PATCH 06/10] arm64: dts: imx8mq: Enable both G1 and G2 VPU's with vpu-blk-ctrl Adam Ford
2021-12-08 22:50   ` Adam Ford
2021-12-08 22:50   ` Adam Ford
2021-12-08 22:50 ` [PATCH 07/10] arm64: dts: imx8mm: Fix VPU Hanging Adam Ford
2021-12-08 22:50   ` Adam Ford
2021-12-08 22:50   ` Adam Ford
2021-12-08 22:50 ` [PATCH 08/10] dt-bindings: media: nxp,imx8mq-vpu: Enable support for i.MX8M Mini Adam Ford
2021-12-08 22:50   ` [PATCH 08/10] dt-bindings: media: nxp, imx8mq-vpu: " Adam Ford
2021-12-08 22:50   ` Adam Ford
2021-12-15 16:53   ` [PATCH 08/10] dt-bindings: media: nxp,imx8mq-vpu: " Rob Herring
2021-12-15 16:53     ` [PATCH 08/10] dt-bindings: media: nxp, imx8mq-vpu: " Rob Herring
2021-12-15 16:53     ` Rob Herring
2021-12-08 22:50 ` [PATCH 09/10] media: hantro: Add support for i.MX8MM Adam Ford
2021-12-08 22:50   ` Adam Ford
2021-12-08 22:50   ` Adam Ford
2021-12-08 22:50 ` [PATCH 10/10] arm64: dts: imx8mm: Enable Hantro G1 and G2 video decoders Adam Ford
2021-12-08 22:50   ` Adam Ford
2021-12-08 22:50   ` Adam Ford

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