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From: Eric Farman <farman@linux.ibm.com>
To: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Farhan Ali <alifm@linux.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-s390x@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] vfio-ccw: concurrent I/O handling
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 15:21:55 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cf22b682-199e-f314-244e-81b1c39b5f8c@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190125135807.17c59cdd@oc2783563651>



On 01/25/2019 07:58 AM, Halil Pasic wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 21:25:10 -0500
> Eric Farman <farman@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
>>>    	private = dev_get_drvdata(mdev_parent_dev(mdev));
>>> -	if (private->state != VFIO_CCW_STATE_IDLE)
>>> +	if (private->state == VFIO_CCW_STATE_NOT_OPER ||
>>> +	    private->state == VFIO_CCW_STATE_STANDBY)
>>>    		return -EACCES;
>>> +	if (!mutex_trylock(&private->io_mutex))
>>> +		return -EAGAIN;
>>
>> Ah, I see Halil's difficulty here.
>>
>> It is true there is a race condition today, and that this doesn't
>> address it.  That's fine, add it to the todo list.  But even with that,
>> I don't see what the mutex is enforcing?
> 
> It is protecting the io regions. AFAIU the idea was that only one
> thread is accessing the io region(s) at a time to prevent corruption and
> reading half-morphed data.
> 
>> Two simultaneous SSCHs will be
>> serialized (one will get kicked out with a failed trylock() call), while
>> still leaving the window open between cc=0 on the SSCH and the
>> subsequent interrupt.  In the latter case, a second SSCH will come
>> through here, do the copy_from_user below, and then jump to fsm_io_busy
>> to return EAGAIN.  Do we really want to stomp on io_region in that case?
> 
> I'm not sure I understood you correctly. The interrupt handler does not
> take the lock before writing to the io_region. That is one race but it is
> easy to fix.
> 
> The bigger problem is that between the interrupt handler has written IRB
> area and userspace has read it we may end up destroying it by stomping on
> it (to use your words). The userspace reading a wrong (given todays qemu
> zeroed out) IRB could lead to follow on problems.

I wasn't thinking about a race between the start and interrupt handler, 
but rather between two near-simultaneous starts.  Looking at it more 
closely, the orb and scsw structs as well as the ret_code field in 
ccw_io_region are only referenced under the protection of the new mutex 
(within fsm_io_request, for example), which I guess is the point.

So that leaves us with just the irb fields, which you'd mentioned a 
couple days ago (and which I was trying to ignore since it'd seems to 
have been discussed enough at the time).  So I withdraw my concerns on 
this point.  For now.  ;-)

>   
>>    Why can't we simply return EAGAIN if state==BUSY?
>>
> 
> Sure we can. That would essentially go back to the old way of things:
> if not idle return with error. 

I think this happens both before and after this series.  With this 
series, we just update the io_region with things that are never used 
because we're busy.

Just the error code returned would change
> form EACCESS to EAGAIN. Which Isn't necessarily a win, because
> conceptually here should be never two interleaved io_requests/start
> commands hitting the module.
> 
> 
>>>    
>>>    	region = private->io_region;
>>> -	if (copy_from_user((void *)region + *ppos, buf, count))
>>> -		return -EFAULT;
>>> +	if (copy_from_user((void *)region + *ppos, buf, count)) {
>>> +		ret = -EFAULT;
>>> +		goto out_unlock;
>>> +	}
> 

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From: Eric Farman <farman@linux.ibm.com>
To: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	Farhan Ali <alifm@linux.ibm.com>,
	Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-s390x@nongnu.org,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 2/5] vfio-ccw: concurrent I/O handling
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 15:21:55 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cf22b682-199e-f314-244e-81b1c39b5f8c@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190125135807.17c59cdd@oc2783563651>



On 01/25/2019 07:58 AM, Halil Pasic wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 21:25:10 -0500
> Eric Farman <farman@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
>>>    	private = dev_get_drvdata(mdev_parent_dev(mdev));
>>> -	if (private->state != VFIO_CCW_STATE_IDLE)
>>> +	if (private->state == VFIO_CCW_STATE_NOT_OPER ||
>>> +	    private->state == VFIO_CCW_STATE_STANDBY)
>>>    		return -EACCES;
>>> +	if (!mutex_trylock(&private->io_mutex))
>>> +		return -EAGAIN;
>>
>> Ah, I see Halil's difficulty here.
>>
>> It is true there is a race condition today, and that this doesn't
>> address it.  That's fine, add it to the todo list.  But even with that,
>> I don't see what the mutex is enforcing?
> 
> It is protecting the io regions. AFAIU the idea was that only one
> thread is accessing the io region(s) at a time to prevent corruption and
> reading half-morphed data.
> 
>> Two simultaneous SSCHs will be
>> serialized (one will get kicked out with a failed trylock() call), while
>> still leaving the window open between cc=0 on the SSCH and the
>> subsequent interrupt.  In the latter case, a second SSCH will come
>> through here, do the copy_from_user below, and then jump to fsm_io_busy
>> to return EAGAIN.  Do we really want to stomp on io_region in that case?
> 
> I'm not sure I understood you correctly. The interrupt handler does not
> take the lock before writing to the io_region. That is one race but it is
> easy to fix.
> 
> The bigger problem is that between the interrupt handler has written IRB
> area and userspace has read it we may end up destroying it by stomping on
> it (to use your words). The userspace reading a wrong (given todays qemu
> zeroed out) IRB could lead to follow on problems.

I wasn't thinking about a race between the start and interrupt handler, 
but rather between two near-simultaneous starts.  Looking at it more 
closely, the orb and scsw structs as well as the ret_code field in 
ccw_io_region are only referenced under the protection of the new mutex 
(within fsm_io_request, for example), which I guess is the point.

So that leaves us with just the irb fields, which you'd mentioned a 
couple days ago (and which I was trying to ignore since it'd seems to 
have been discussed enough at the time).  So I withdraw my concerns on 
this point.  For now.  ;-)

>   
>>    Why can't we simply return EAGAIN if state==BUSY?
>>
> 
> Sure we can. That would essentially go back to the old way of things:
> if not idle return with error. 

I think this happens both before and after this series.  With this 
series, we just update the io_region with things that are never used 
because we're busy.

Just the error code returned would change
> form EACCESS to EAGAIN. Which Isn't necessarily a win, because
> conceptually here should be never two interleaved io_requests/start
> commands hitting the module.
> 
> 
>>>    
>>>    	region = private->io_region;
>>> -	if (copy_from_user((void *)region + *ppos, buf, count))
>>> -		return -EFAULT;
>>> +	if (copy_from_user((void *)region + *ppos, buf, count)) {
>>> +		ret = -EFAULT;
>>> +		goto out_unlock;
>>> +	}
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-25 20:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-21 11:03 [PATCH v2 0/5] vfio-ccw: support hsch/csch (kernel part) Cornelia Huck
2019-01-21 11:03 ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-21 11:03 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] vfio-ccw: make it safe to access channel programs Cornelia Huck
2019-01-21 11:03   ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-22 14:56   ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-22 14:56     ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-22 15:19     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-22 15:19       ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-21 11:03 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] vfio-ccw: concurrent I/O handling Cornelia Huck
2019-01-21 11:03   ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-21 20:20   ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-21 20:20     ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-22 10:29     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-22 10:29       ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-22 11:17       ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-22 11:17         ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-22 11:53         ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-22 11:53           ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-22 12:46           ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-22 12:46             ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-22 17:26             ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-22 17:26               ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-22 19:03               ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-22 19:03                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-23 10:34                 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-23 10:34                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-23 13:06                   ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-23 13:06                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-23 13:34                     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-23 13:34                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-24 19:16                       ` Eric Farman
2019-01-24 19:16                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Farman
2019-01-25 10:13                         ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-25 10:13                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-22 18:33   ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-22 18:33     ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-23 10:21     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-23 10:21       ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-23 13:30       ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-23 13:30         ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-24 10:05         ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-24 10:05           ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-24 10:08       ` Pierre Morel
2019-01-24 10:08         ` [Qemu-devel] " Pierre Morel
2019-01-24 10:19         ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-24 10:19           ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-24 11:18           ` Pierre Morel
2019-01-24 11:18             ` [Qemu-devel] " Pierre Morel
2019-01-24 11:45           ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-24 11:45             ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-24 19:14           ` Eric Farman
2019-01-24 19:14             ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Farman
2019-01-25  2:25   ` Eric Farman
2019-01-25  2:25     ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Farman
2019-01-25  2:37     ` Eric Farman
2019-01-25  2:37       ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Farman
2019-01-25 10:24       ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-25 10:24         ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-25 12:58         ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-25 12:58           ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-25 14:01           ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-25 14:01             ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-25 14:21             ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-25 14:21               ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-25 16:04               ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-25 16:04                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-28 17:13                 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-28 17:13                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-28 19:30                   ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-28 19:30                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-29  9:58                     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-29  9:58                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-29 19:39                       ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-29 19:39                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-30 13:29                         ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-30 13:29                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-30 14:32                           ` Farhan Ali
2019-01-30 14:32                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Farhan Ali
2019-01-28 17:09             ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-28 17:09               ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-28 19:15               ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-28 19:15                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-28 21:48                 ` Eric Farman
2019-01-28 21:48                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Farman
2019-01-29 10:20                   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-29 10:20                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-29 14:14                     ` Eric Farman
2019-01-29 14:14                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Farman
2019-01-29 18:53                       ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-29 18:53                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-29 10:10                 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-29 10:10                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-25 15:57           ` Eric Farman
2019-01-25 15:57             ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Farman
2019-01-28 17:24             ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-28 17:24               ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-28 21:50               ` Eric Farman
2019-01-28 21:50                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Farman
2019-01-25 20:22         ` Eric Farman
2019-01-25 20:22           ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Farman
2019-01-28 17:31           ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-28 17:31             ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-25 13:09       ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-25 13:09         ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-25 12:58     ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-25 12:58       ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-25 20:21       ` Eric Farman [this message]
2019-01-25 20:21         ` Eric Farman
2019-01-21 11:03 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] vfio-ccw: add capabilities chain Cornelia Huck
2019-01-21 11:03   ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-23 15:57   ` [qemu-s390x] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-23 15:57     ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-25 16:19   ` Eric Farman
2019-01-25 16:19     ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Farman
2019-01-25 21:00     ` Eric Farman
2019-01-25 21:00       ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Farman
2019-01-28 17:34       ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-28 17:34         ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-21 11:03 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] s390/cio: export hsch to modules Cornelia Huck
2019-01-21 11:03   ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-22 15:21   ` [qemu-s390x] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-22 15:21     ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-21 11:03 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] vfio-ccw: add handling for async channel instructions Cornelia Huck
2019-01-21 11:03   ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-23 15:51   ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-23 15:51     ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-24 10:06     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-24 10:06       ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-24 10:37       ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-24 10:37         ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-25 21:00   ` Eric Farman
2019-01-25 21:00     ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Farman
2019-01-28 17:40     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-28 17:40       ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck

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