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From: Eliot Moss <moss@cs.umass.edu>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>, Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>
Cc: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org, nvdimm@lists.linux.dev,
	dan.j.williams@intel.com, bwidawsk@kernel.org,
	ira.weiny@intel.com, vishal.l.verma@intel.com,
	alison.schofield@intel.com, a.manzanares@samsung.com,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 10/15] x86: add an arch helper function to invalidate all cache for nvdimm
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 10:31:12 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cf519783-ec21-b3c9-37db-7504b2279d43@cs.umass.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YvO8pP7NUOdH17MM@FVFF77S0Q05N>

On 8/10/2022 10:15 AM, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 09, 2022 at 02:47:06PM -0700, Dave Jiang wrote:
>>
>> On 8/3/2022 10:37 AM, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
>>> On Tue, 19 Jul 2022 12:07:03 -0700
>>> Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/17/2022 10:30 PM, Davidlohr Bueso wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 15 Jul 2022, Dave Jiang wrote:
>>>>>> The original implementation to flush all cache after unlocking the
>>>>>> nvdimm
>>>>>> resides in drivers/acpi/nfit/intel.c. This is a temporary stop gap until
>>>>>> nvdimm with security operations arrives on other archs. With support CXL
>>>>>> pmem supporting security operations, specifically "unlock" dimm, the
>>>>>> need
>>>>>> for an arch supported helper function to invalidate all CPU cache for
>>>>>> nvdimm has arrived. Remove original implementation from acpi/nfit and
>>>>>> add
>>>>>> cross arch support for this operation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Add CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_NVDIMM_INVAL_CACHE Kconfig and allow x86_64 to
>>>>>> opt in
>>>>>> and provide the support via wbinvd_on_all_cpus() call.
>>>>> So the 8.2.9.5.5 bits will also need wbinvd - and I guess arm64 will need
>>>>> its own semantics (iirc there was a flush all call in the past). Cc'ing
>>>>> Jonathan as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, I think this call should not be defined in any place other
>>>>> than core
>>>>> kernel headers, and not in pat/nvdimm. I was trying to make it fit in
>>>>> smp.h,
>>>>> for example, but conviniently we might be able to hijack
>>>>> flush_cache_all()
>>>>> for our purposes as of course neither x86-64 arm64 uses it :)
>>>>>
>>>>> And I see this as safe (wrt not adding a big hammer on unaware
>>>>> drivers) as
>>>>> the 32bit archs that define the call are mostly contained thin their
>>>>> arch/,
>>>>> and the few in drivers/ are still specific to those archs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe something like the below.
>>>> Ok. I'll replace my version with yours.
>>> Careful with flush_cache_all(). The stub version in
>>> include/asm-generic/cacheflush.h has a comment above it that would
>>> need updating at very least (I think).
>>> Note there 'was' a flush_cache_all() for ARM64, but:
>>> https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-arm-kernel/patch/1429521875-16893-1-git-send-email-mark.rutland@arm.com/
>>
>>
>> flush_and_invalidate_cache_all() instead given it calls wbinvd on x86? I
>> think other archs, at least ARM, those are separate instructions aren't
>> they?
> 
> On arm and arm64 there is no way to perform maintenance on *all* caches; it has
> to be done in cacheline increments by address. It's not realistic to do that
> for the entire address space, so we need to know the relevant address ranges
> (as per the commit referenced above).
> 
> So we probably need to think a bit harder about the geenric interface, since
> "all" isn't possible to implement. :/

Can you not do flushing by set and way on each cache,
probably working outwards from L1?

Eliot Moss

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From: Eliot Moss <moss@cs.umass.edu>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>, Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>
Cc: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org, nvdimm@lists.linux.dev,
	dan.j.williams@intel.com, bwidawsk@kernel.org,
	ira.weiny@intel.com, vishal.l.verma@intel.com,
	alison.schofield@intel.com, a.manzanares@samsung.com,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 10/15] x86: add an arch helper function to invalidate all cache for nvdimm
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 10:31:12 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cf519783-ec21-b3c9-37db-7504b2279d43@cs.umass.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YvO8pP7NUOdH17MM@FVFF77S0Q05N>

On 8/10/2022 10:15 AM, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 09, 2022 at 02:47:06PM -0700, Dave Jiang wrote:
>>
>> On 8/3/2022 10:37 AM, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
>>> On Tue, 19 Jul 2022 12:07:03 -0700
>>> Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/17/2022 10:30 PM, Davidlohr Bueso wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 15 Jul 2022, Dave Jiang wrote:
>>>>>> The original implementation to flush all cache after unlocking the
>>>>>> nvdimm
>>>>>> resides in drivers/acpi/nfit/intel.c. This is a temporary stop gap until
>>>>>> nvdimm with security operations arrives on other archs. With support CXL
>>>>>> pmem supporting security operations, specifically "unlock" dimm, the
>>>>>> need
>>>>>> for an arch supported helper function to invalidate all CPU cache for
>>>>>> nvdimm has arrived. Remove original implementation from acpi/nfit and
>>>>>> add
>>>>>> cross arch support for this operation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Add CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_NVDIMM_INVAL_CACHE Kconfig and allow x86_64 to
>>>>>> opt in
>>>>>> and provide the support via wbinvd_on_all_cpus() call.
>>>>> So the 8.2.9.5.5 bits will also need wbinvd - and I guess arm64 will need
>>>>> its own semantics (iirc there was a flush all call in the past). Cc'ing
>>>>> Jonathan as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, I think this call should not be defined in any place other
>>>>> than core
>>>>> kernel headers, and not in pat/nvdimm. I was trying to make it fit in
>>>>> smp.h,
>>>>> for example, but conviniently we might be able to hijack
>>>>> flush_cache_all()
>>>>> for our purposes as of course neither x86-64 arm64 uses it :)
>>>>>
>>>>> And I see this as safe (wrt not adding a big hammer on unaware
>>>>> drivers) as
>>>>> the 32bit archs that define the call are mostly contained thin their
>>>>> arch/,
>>>>> and the few in drivers/ are still specific to those archs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe something like the below.
>>>> Ok. I'll replace my version with yours.
>>> Careful with flush_cache_all(). The stub version in
>>> include/asm-generic/cacheflush.h has a comment above it that would
>>> need updating at very least (I think).
>>> Note there 'was' a flush_cache_all() for ARM64, but:
>>> https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-arm-kernel/patch/1429521875-16893-1-git-send-email-mark.rutland@arm.com/
>>
>>
>> flush_and_invalidate_cache_all() instead given it calls wbinvd on x86? I
>> think other archs, at least ARM, those are separate instructions aren't
>> they?
> 
> On arm and arm64 there is no way to perform maintenance on *all* caches; it has
> to be done in cacheline increments by address. It's not realistic to do that
> for the entire address space, so we need to know the relevant address ranges
> (as per the commit referenced above).
> 
> So we probably need to think a bit harder about the geenric interface, since
> "all" isn't possible to implement. :/

Can you not do flushing by set and way on each cache,
probably working outwards from L1?

Eliot Moss

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-10 14:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-15 21:08 [PATCH RFC 00/15] Introduce security commands for CXL pmem device Dave Jiang
2022-07-15 21:08 ` [PATCH RFC 01/15] cxl/pmem: Introduce nvdimm_security_ops with ->get_flags() operation Dave Jiang
2022-07-15 21:09   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2022-08-03 16:29     ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-07-18  5:34   ` [PATCH RFC 1/15] " Davidlohr Bueso
2022-07-15 21:08 ` [PATCH RFC 02/15] tools/testing/cxl: Create context for cxl mock device Dave Jiang
2022-07-18  6:29   ` [PATCH RFC 2/15] " Davidlohr Bueso
2022-08-03 16:36   ` [PATCH RFC 02/15] " Jonathan Cameron
2022-08-09 20:30     ` Dave Jiang
2022-07-15 21:08 ` [PATCH RFC 03/15] tools/testing/cxl: Add "Get Security State" opcode support Dave Jiang
2022-08-03 16:51   ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-07-15 21:08 ` [PATCH RFC 04/15] cxl/pmem: Add "Set Passphrase" security command support Dave Jiang
2022-07-18  6:36   ` [PATCH RFC 4/15] " Davidlohr Bueso
2022-07-19 18:55     ` Dave Jiang
2022-08-03 17:01   ` [PATCH RFC 04/15] " Jonathan Cameron
2022-07-15 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 05/15] tools/testing/cxl: Add "Set Passphrase" opcode support Dave Jiang
2022-08-03 17:15   ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-07-15 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 06/15] cxl/pmem: Add Disable Passphrase security command support Dave Jiang
2022-08-03 17:21   ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-07-15 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 07/15] tools/testing/cxl: Add "Disable" security opcode support Dave Jiang
2022-08-03 17:23   ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-07-15 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 08/15] cxl/pmem: Add "Freeze Security State" security command support Dave Jiang
2022-08-03 17:23   ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-07-15 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 09/15] tools/testing/cxl: Add "Freeze Security State" security opcode support Dave Jiang
2022-07-15 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 10/15] x86: add an arch helper function to invalidate all cache for nvdimm Dave Jiang
2022-07-18  5:30   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2022-07-19 19:07     ` Dave Jiang
2022-08-03 17:37       ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-08-03 17:37         ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-08-09 21:47         ` Dave Jiang
2022-08-09 21:47           ` Dave Jiang
2022-08-10 14:15           ` Mark Rutland
2022-08-10 14:15             ` Mark Rutland
2022-08-10 14:31             ` Eliot Moss [this message]
2022-08-10 14:31               ` Eliot Moss
2022-08-10 18:09               ` Mark Rutland
2022-08-10 18:09                 ` Mark Rutland
2022-08-10 18:11                 ` Eliot Moss
2022-08-10 18:11                   ` Eliot Moss
2022-08-10 20:06             ` Dan Williams
2022-08-10 20:06               ` Dan Williams
2022-08-10 21:13               ` Davidlohr Bueso
2022-08-10 21:13                 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2022-08-10 21:30                 ` Dan Williams
2022-08-10 21:30                   ` Dan Williams
2022-08-10 21:31                   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2022-08-10 21:31                     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2022-08-15 16:07               ` [PATCH] arch/cacheflush: Introduce flush_all_caches() Davidlohr Bueso
2022-08-15 16:07                 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2022-08-16  9:01                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-16  9:01                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-16 16:50                   ` Dan Williams
2022-08-16 16:50                     ` Dan Williams
2022-08-16 16:53                     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2022-08-16 16:53                       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2022-08-16 17:42                       ` Dan Williams
2022-08-16 17:42                         ` Dan Williams
2022-08-16 17:52                         ` Davidlohr Bueso
2022-08-16 17:52                           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2022-08-16 18:49                           ` Dan Williams
2022-08-16 18:49                             ` Dan Williams
2022-08-17  7:53                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-17  7:53                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-17  7:49                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-08-17  7:49                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-07-15 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 11/15] cxl/pmem: Add "Unlock" security command support Dave Jiang
2022-08-04 13:19   ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-08-09 22:31     ` Dave Jiang
2022-07-15 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 12/15] tools/testing/cxl: Add "Unlock" security opcode support Dave Jiang
2022-07-15 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 13/15] cxl/pmem: Add "Passphrase Secure Erase" security command support Dave Jiang
2022-07-20  6:17   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2022-07-20 17:38     ` Dave Jiang
2022-07-20 18:02       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2022-07-15 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 14/15] tools/testing/cxl: Add "passphrase secure erase" opcode support Dave Jiang
2022-07-15 21:10 ` [PATCH RFC 15/15] nvdimm/cxl/pmem: Add support for master passphrase disable security command Dave Jiang
2022-07-15 21:29 ` [PATCH RFC 00/15] Introduce security commands for CXL pmem device Davidlohr Bueso
2022-07-19 18:53   ` Dave Jiang
2022-08-03 17:03 ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-08-08 22:18   ` Dave Jiang

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