Re: [Cocci] [PATCH] coccinelle: api: add kvfree script

Re: [Cocci] [PATCH] coccinelle: api: add kvfree script

[Markus Elfring]

> +@choice@
> +expression E, E1;
> +position kok, vok;
> +@@
> +
> +(
> +  if (...) {
> +    ...
> +    E = \(kmalloc@kok\|…\)(...)

Further implementation details from this SmPL script caught my software
development attention.

* Is there a need to add the specification “when any” to the SmPL ellipses
  before such assignment statements?

* A limited search approach was expressed. Will additional source code variations
  become relevant?
  + switch statement
  + if branches with single statements
  + conditional operator


> +@opportunity depends on !patch …@
…
> +  E = \(kmalloc\|…\)(..., size, ...)
> +  ... when != E = E1
> +      when != size = E1

I wonder that two assignments should be excluded here according to
the same expression metavariable.


+@pkfree depends on patch exists@
…
+- \(kfree\|kvfree\)(E)
++ vfree(E)

Would you like to use a SmPL code variant like the following
at any more places?
(Is it occasionally helpful to increase the change precision?)

+-\(kfree\|kvfree\)
++vfree
+      (E)


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Re: [Cocci] [PATCH] coccinelle: api: add kvfree script

[Julia Lawall]

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On Sat, 6 Jun 2020, Markus Elfring wrote:

> > +@choice@
> > +expression E, E1;
> > +position kok, vok;
> > +@@
> > +
> > +(
> > +  if (...) {
> > +    ...
> > +    E = \(kmalloc@kok\|…\)(...)
>
> Further implementation details from this SmPL script caught my software
> development attention.
>
> * Is there a need to add the specification “when any” to the SmPL ellipses
>   before such assignment statements?

Having multiple assignments to kmalloc in one if seems unlikely, and
perhaps one would want to think about such a case differently, so it seems
ok as is.

>
> * A limited search approach was expressed. Will additional source code variations
>   become relevant?
>   + switch statement
>   + if branches with single statements
>   + conditional operator

The point is that there is a kmalloc in one branch and a vmalloc in
another branch, so a if with a single branch doesn't seem relevant.

The other cases sem highly improbable.

>
> > +@opportunity depends on !patch …@
> …
> > +  E = \(kmalloc\|…\)(..., size, ...)
> > +  ... when != E = E1
> > +      when != size = E1
>
> I wonder that two assignments should be excluded here according to
> the same expression metavariable.

Doesn't matter.  The metavariables are considered separately in the
different whens.

>
> +@pkfree depends on patch exists@
> …
> +- \(kfree\|kvfree\)(E)
> ++ vfree(E)
>
> Would you like to use a SmPL code variant like the following
> at any more places?
> (Is it occasionally helpful to increase the change precision?)
>
> +-\(kfree\|kvfree\)
> ++vfree
> +      (E)

"increase the change precision" seems to be an obscure way to say "improve
the formatting".  Indeed, leaving (E) as is would have the effect of not
changing the formatting.  But the problem seems unlikely for a functoin
with such a short name.  And this presentation will likely run afoul of
the fact that you can't attach + code to a disjunction.  So the original
presentation was more concise, and should be fine in practice.

julia

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Re: [Cocci] coccinelle: api: add kvfree script

[Markus Elfring]

>> * A limited search approach was expressed. Will additional source code variations
>>   become relevant?
>>   + switch statement
>>   + if branches with single statements
>>   + conditional operator
>
> The point is that there is a kmalloc in one branch and a vmalloc in
> another branch, so a if with a single branch doesn't seem relevant.

Is an other wording more appropriate to handle if/else statements
without curly brackets?


> The other cases sem highly improbable.

This can be.

But how much do such details influence the confidence level
for such a SmPL script?


>>> +@opportunity depends on !patch …@
>> …
>>> +  E = \(kmalloc\|…\)(..., size, ...)
>>> +  ... when != E = E1
>>> +      when != size = E1
>>
>> I wonder that two assignments should be excluded here according to
>> the same expression metavariable.
>
> Doesn't matter.

Would different variable names reduce the potential for confusion?


> The metavariables are considered separately in the different whens.

Is this information relevant for a better software documentation?


>>> +@pkfree depends on patch exists@
>> …
>>> +- \(kfree\|kvfree\)(E)
>>> ++ vfree(E)
>>
>> Would you like to use a SmPL code variant like the following
>> at any more places?
>> (Is it occasionally helpful to increase the change precision?)
>>
>> +-\(kfree\|kvfree\)
>> ++vfree
>> +      (E)
>
> "increase the change precision" seems to be an obscure way to say "improve
> the formatting".

We come along a different understanding of such a transformation approach
once more.


> Indeed, leaving (E) as is would have the effect of not changing the formatting.

I just propose to leave source code unmodified as much as possible here.


> But the problem seems unlikely for a functoin with such a short name.

This can be.


> And this presentation will likely run afoul of the fact
> that you can't attach + code to a disjunction.

There is a minus character before such SmPL disjunctions.


> So the original presentation was more concise, and should be fine in practice.

Is less duplicated SmPL code useful?

I point a design alternative out.
Would you like to integrate it anyhow?

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Re: [Cocci] coccinelle: api: add kvfree script

[Markus Elfring]

> … Looks like it's impossible to break "when" lines.

Thus I became also curious on clarification for further software
development possibilities around the safer application of code exclusion
specifications by the means of the semantic patch language.

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Re: [Cocci] coccinelle: api: add kvfree script

[Markus Elfring]

> So there are a lot of reasons why constraints are useful.

Thanks for such a view.

Thus I dare to point the possibility out to consider their application
for mentioned function name lists (besides using SmPL disjunctions).
Can coding style concerns be resolved in a more constructive way then?


> But hiding information that could be apparent to the SmPL compiler
> and could be used to improve the performance of the matching
> process is not one of them.

Will any software extensions become possible also in this area?

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Re: [Cocci] coccinelle: api: add kvfree script

[Julia Lawall]

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020, Markus Elfring wrote:

> >>> +    E = \(kmalloc@kok\|kzalloc@kok\|krealloc@kok\|kcalloc@kok\|kmalloc_node@kok\|kzalloc_node@kok\|kmalloc_array@kok\|kmalloc_array_node@kok\|kcalloc_node@kok\)(...)
> >>
> >> I would prefer an other coding style here.
> >>
> >> * Items for such SmPL disjunctions can be specified also on multiple lines.
> >>
> >> * The semantic patch language supports further means to handle function name lists
> >>   in more convenient ways.
> >>   Would you like to work with customised constraints?
> >
> > Please don't follow this advice.
>
> I have got recurring understanding difficulties with such a response.
> Will quoted patch review issues clarified in any other ways?
>
>
> > Coccinelle is not able to optimize its search process according to
> > the information in constraints.  It will needlessly parse many files.
>
> The software supports also SmPL constraints for some reasons.
> Why should such functionality be used at all if the immediate reminder is
> there seem to be more important optimisation aspects to consider before?

If the number of functions is really large, constraints may be a better
idea.

If the names of the functions are not actually known, constraints may be a
better idea.

If it is desired to collect some statistics about the matching process,
constraints allow that.

If it is desired to reason about values, for example that a constant is
greater or less than some value, then constraints allow that.

If it is desired to avoid changing code in a particular function, then
constraints allow that.

So there are a lot of reasons why constraints are useful.  There are
likely even more.  But hiding information that could be apparent to the
SmPL compiler and could be used to improve the performance of the matching
process is not one of them.

julia
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Re: [Cocci] coccinelle: api: add kvfree script

[Markus Elfring]

>>> +    E = \(kmalloc@kok\|kzalloc@kok\|krealloc@kok\|kcalloc@kok\|kmalloc_node@kok\|kzalloc_node@kok\|kmalloc_array@kok\|kmalloc_array_node@kok\|kcalloc_node@kok\)(...)
>>
>> I would prefer an other coding style here.
>>
>> * Items for such SmPL disjunctions can be specified also on multiple lines.
>>
>> * The semantic patch language supports further means to handle function name lists
>>   in more convenient ways.
>>   Would you like to work with customised constraints?
>
> Please don't follow this advice.

I have got recurring understanding difficulties with such a response.
Will quoted patch review issues clarified in any other ways?


> Coccinelle is not able to optimize its search process according to
> the information in constraints.  It will needlessly parse many files.

The software supports also SmPL constraints for some reasons.
Why should such functionality be used at all if the immediate reminder is
there seem to be more important optimisation aspects to consider before?

Regards,
Markus
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Re: [Cocci] coccinelle: api: add kvfree script

[Markus Elfring]

>>> +    E = \(kmalloc@kok\|kzalloc@kok\|krealloc@kok\|kcalloc@kok\|kmalloc_node@kok\|kzalloc_node@kok\|kmalloc_array@kok\|kmalloc_array_node@kok\|kcalloc_node@kok\)(...)
>>
>> I would prefer an other coding style here.
>>
>> * Items for such SmPL disjunctions can be specified also on multiple lines.
>>
>> * The semantic patch language supports further means to handle function name lists
>>   in more convenient ways.
>>   Would you like to work with customised constraints?
>
> Please don't follow this advice.

I suggest to reconsider such feedback.

Do the previous comments contain helpful information?


> Coccinelle is not able to optimize its search process

The software contains some limitations which might be changeable.


> according to the information in constraints.

Will related solution ideas become more interesting?


> It will needlessly parse many files.

Such an effect would be undesirable.

* Would you like to clarify other software development options any more?

* How will design goals evolve?

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Markus
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