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From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>
To: "Trevor Wu (吳文良)" <Trevor.Wu@mediatek.com>,
	"robh+dt@kernel.org" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 10/12] dt-bindings: mediatek: mt8188: add audio afe document
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2022 13:02:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dd2a373e-d3a7-cec9-6608-379d61f4228f@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6eae5d7eef22443b6152c6655c89bdfd70e59089.camel@mediatek.com>

On 13/12/2022 16:06, Trevor Wu (吳文良) wrote:
> On Mon, 2022-12-12 at 09:40 +0100, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>> On 12/12/2022 03:43, Trevor Wu (吳文良) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> +    uniqueItems: true
>>>>>>> +    items:
>>>>>>> +      minimum: 0
>>>>>>> +      maximum: 15
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +  "^mediatek,etdm-in[1-2]-mclk-always-on-rate-hz$":
>>>>>>> +    description: Specify etdm in mclk output rate for
>>>>>>> always
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How is it different than assigned-clock-rates?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This includes clock enabling at init stage.
>>>>
>>>> assigned-clock-rates are also at init stage. I asked what is
>>>> different.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If the property is used, there are three parts included in dai
>>> driver
>>> probe function.
>>>
>>> 1. set clock parent (which APLL)
>>> 2. set clock rate (MCLK rate)
>>> 3. enable clock (MCLK On)
>>>
>>> The first two parts can be done by existing dts clock properties,
>>> but
>>> the last one can't.
>>> When MCLK should be enabled at boot time and kept on, this property
>>> is used. That's why I say the property is designed for always-on
>>> case.
>>
>> Heh, so the "always on case" means this property enables clock? How
>> is
>> this even DT property? That's not how clocks should be kept enabled.
>> You
>> need proper clock provider and consumer.
>>
>>
> 
> Hi Krzysztof,
> 
> Sorry, I don't know it is not appropriate to notify driver that the
> clock should be ketp enabled after boot.
> 
> The original idea is that enabling this clock in the machine driver,
> but a property to inform machine driver is also required when the
> machine driver is shared by different codec combination. And it's
> easier to handle set_rate and set_parent in etdm dai driver, so I put
> the property here.
> 
> Do you mean if the clock consumer(audio codec or external DSP) requries
> the clock, the consumer should enable the clock by itself?

Yes, your clocks should have consumers and they keep the clock enabled
when needed. Certain clocks can be marked as IGNORE or CRITICAL to keep
enabled without consumers (or even when consumers disable), but that's
still not a DT property.


Best regards,
Krzysztof


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From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>
To: "Trevor Wu (吳文良)" <Trevor.Wu@mediatek.com>,
	"robh+dt@kernel.org" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"broonie@kernel.org" <broonie@kernel.org>,
	"p.zabel@pengutronix.de" <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	"tiwai@suse.com" <tiwai@suse.com>,
	"lgirdwood@gmail.com" <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	"krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org"
	<krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	"matthias.bgg@gmail.com" <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	"perex@perex.cz" <perex@perex.cz>
Cc: "devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"alsa-devel@alsa-project.org" <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Project_Global_Chrome_Upstream_Group
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	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com"
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 10/12] dt-bindings: mediatek: mt8188: add audio afe document
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2022 13:02:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dd2a373e-d3a7-cec9-6608-379d61f4228f@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6eae5d7eef22443b6152c6655c89bdfd70e59089.camel@mediatek.com>

On 13/12/2022 16:06, Trevor Wu (吳文良) wrote:
> On Mon, 2022-12-12 at 09:40 +0100, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>> On 12/12/2022 03:43, Trevor Wu (吳文良) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> +    uniqueItems: true
>>>>>>> +    items:
>>>>>>> +      minimum: 0
>>>>>>> +      maximum: 15
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +  "^mediatek,etdm-in[1-2]-mclk-always-on-rate-hz$":
>>>>>>> +    description: Specify etdm in mclk output rate for
>>>>>>> always
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How is it different than assigned-clock-rates?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This includes clock enabling at init stage.
>>>>
>>>> assigned-clock-rates are also at init stage. I asked what is
>>>> different.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If the property is used, there are three parts included in dai
>>> driver
>>> probe function.
>>>
>>> 1. set clock parent (which APLL)
>>> 2. set clock rate (MCLK rate)
>>> 3. enable clock (MCLK On)
>>>
>>> The first two parts can be done by existing dts clock properties,
>>> but
>>> the last one can't.
>>> When MCLK should be enabled at boot time and kept on, this property
>>> is used. That's why I say the property is designed for always-on
>>> case.
>>
>> Heh, so the "always on case" means this property enables clock? How
>> is
>> this even DT property? That's not how clocks should be kept enabled.
>> You
>> need proper clock provider and consumer.
>>
>>
> 
> Hi Krzysztof,
> 
> Sorry, I don't know it is not appropriate to notify driver that the
> clock should be ketp enabled after boot.
> 
> The original idea is that enabling this clock in the machine driver,
> but a property to inform machine driver is also required when the
> machine driver is shared by different codec combination. And it's
> easier to handle set_rate and set_parent in etdm dai driver, so I put
> the property here.
> 
> Do you mean if the clock consumer(audio codec or external DSP) requries
> the clock, the consumer should enable the clock by itself?

Yes, your clocks should have consumers and they keep the clock enabled
when needed. Certain clocks can be marked as IGNORE or CRITICAL to keep
enabled without consumers (or even when consumers disable), but that's
still not a DT property.


Best regards,
Krzysztof


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>
To: "Trevor Wu (吳文良)" <Trevor.Wu@mediatek.com>,
	"robh+dt@kernel.org" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"broonie@kernel.org" <broonie@kernel.org>,
	"p.zabel@pengutronix.de" <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	"tiwai@suse.com" <tiwai@suse.com>,
	"lgirdwood@gmail.com" <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	"krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org"
	<krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	"matthias.bgg@gmail.com" <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	"perex@perex.cz" <perex@perex.cz>
Cc: "linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org>,
	"angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com"
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	"alsa-devel@alsa-project.org" <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>,
	Project_Global_Chrome_Upstream_Group
	<Project_Global_Chrome_Upstream_Group@mediatek.com>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 10/12] dt-bindings: mediatek: mt8188: add audio afe document
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2022 13:02:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dd2a373e-d3a7-cec9-6608-379d61f4228f@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6eae5d7eef22443b6152c6655c89bdfd70e59089.camel@mediatek.com>

On 13/12/2022 16:06, Trevor Wu (吳文良) wrote:
> On Mon, 2022-12-12 at 09:40 +0100, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>> On 12/12/2022 03:43, Trevor Wu (吳文良) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> +    uniqueItems: true
>>>>>>> +    items:
>>>>>>> +      minimum: 0
>>>>>>> +      maximum: 15
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +  "^mediatek,etdm-in[1-2]-mclk-always-on-rate-hz$":
>>>>>>> +    description: Specify etdm in mclk output rate for
>>>>>>> always
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How is it different than assigned-clock-rates?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This includes clock enabling at init stage.
>>>>
>>>> assigned-clock-rates are also at init stage. I asked what is
>>>> different.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If the property is used, there are three parts included in dai
>>> driver
>>> probe function.
>>>
>>> 1. set clock parent (which APLL)
>>> 2. set clock rate (MCLK rate)
>>> 3. enable clock (MCLK On)
>>>
>>> The first two parts can be done by existing dts clock properties,
>>> but
>>> the last one can't.
>>> When MCLK should be enabled at boot time and kept on, this property
>>> is used. That's why I say the property is designed for always-on
>>> case.
>>
>> Heh, so the "always on case" means this property enables clock? How
>> is
>> this even DT property? That's not how clocks should be kept enabled.
>> You
>> need proper clock provider and consumer.
>>
>>
> 
> Hi Krzysztof,
> 
> Sorry, I don't know it is not appropriate to notify driver that the
> clock should be ketp enabled after boot.
> 
> The original idea is that enabling this clock in the machine driver,
> but a property to inform machine driver is also required when the
> machine driver is shared by different codec combination. And it's
> easier to handle set_rate and set_parent in etdm dai driver, so I put
> the property here.
> 
> Do you mean if the clock consumer(audio codec or external DSP) requries
> the clock, the consumer should enable the clock by itself?

Yes, your clocks should have consumers and they keep the clock enabled
when needed. Certain clocks can be marked as IGNORE or CRITICAL to keep
enabled without consumers (or even when consumers disable), but that's
still not a DT property.


Best regards,
Krzysztof


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Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-08  3:31 [PATCH v3 00/12] ASoC: mediatek: Add support for MT8188 SoC Trevor Wu
2022-12-08  3:31 ` Trevor Wu
2022-12-08  3:31 ` Trevor Wu
2022-12-08  3:31 ` [PATCH v3 01/12] ASoC: mediatek: common: add SMC ops and SMC CMD Trevor Wu
2022-12-08  3:31   ` Trevor Wu
2022-12-08  3:31   ` Trevor Wu
2022-12-13 10:45   ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-12-13 10:45     ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-12-13 10:45     ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-12-08  3:31 ` [PATCH v3 02/12] ASoC: mediatek: mt8188: add common header Trevor Wu
2022-12-08  3:31   ` Trevor Wu
2022-12-13 10:45   ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-12-13 10:45     ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-12-13 10:45     ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-12-08  3:31 ` [PATCH v3 03/12] ASoC: mediatek: mt8188: support audsys clock Trevor Wu
2022-12-08  3:31   ` Trevor Wu
2022-12-08  3:31   ` Trevor Wu
2022-12-13 10:45   ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-12-13 10:45     ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-12-13 10:45     ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-12-08  3:31 ` [PATCH v3 04/12] ASoC: mediatek: mt8188: support adda in platform driver Trevor Wu
2022-12-08  3:31   ` Trevor Wu
2022-12-08  3:31   ` Trevor Wu
2022-12-13 10:45   ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-12-13 10:45     ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-12-13 10:45     ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-12-08  3:31 ` [PATCH v3 05/12] ASoC: mediatek: mt8188: support etdm " Trevor Wu
2022-12-08  3:31   ` Trevor Wu
2022-12-08  3:31   ` Trevor Wu
2022-12-13 10:45   ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-12-13 10:45     ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-12-13 10:45     ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-12-13 14:30     ` Trevor Wu (吳文良)
2022-12-13 14:30       ` Trevor Wu (吳文良)
2022-12-13 14:30       ` Trevor Wu (吳文良)
2022-12-08  3:31 ` [PATCH v3 06/12] ASoC: mediatek: mt8188: support pcmif " Trevor Wu
2022-12-08  3:31   ` Trevor Wu
2022-12-08  3:31   ` Trevor Wu
2022-12-13 10:49   ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-12-13 10:49     ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-12-13 10:49     ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-12-08  3:31 ` [PATCH v3 07/12] ASoC: mediatek: mt8188: support audio clock control Trevor Wu
2022-12-08  3:31   ` Trevor Wu
2022-12-08  3:31   ` Trevor Wu
2022-12-13 10:51   ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-12-13 10:51     ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-12-13 10:51     ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-12-08  3:31 ` [PATCH v3 08/12] ASoC: mediatek: mt8188: add platform driver Trevor Wu
2022-12-08  3:31   ` Trevor Wu
2022-12-08  3:31   ` Trevor Wu
2022-12-08  3:31 ` [PATCH v3 09/12] ASoC: mediatek: mt8188: add control for timing select Trevor Wu
2022-12-08  3:31   ` Trevor Wu
2022-12-08  3:31   ` Trevor Wu
2022-12-08  3:31 ` [PATCH v3 10/12] dt-bindings: mediatek: mt8188: add audio afe document Trevor Wu
2022-12-08  3:31   ` Trevor Wu
2022-12-08  3:31   ` Trevor Wu
2022-12-09 10:15   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-12-09 10:15     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-12-09 10:15     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-12-09 10:56     ` Trevor Wu (吳文良)
2022-12-09 10:56       ` Trevor Wu (吳文良)
2022-12-09 10:56       ` Trevor Wu (吳文良)
2022-12-09 14:56       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-12-09 14:56         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-12-09 14:56         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-12-12  2:43         ` Trevor Wu (吳文良)
2022-12-12  2:43           ` Trevor Wu (吳文良)
2022-12-12  2:43           ` Trevor Wu (吳文良)
2022-12-12  8:40           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-12-12  8:40             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-12-12  8:40             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-12-13 15:06             ` Trevor Wu (吳文良)
2022-12-13 15:06               ` Trevor Wu (吳文良)
2022-12-13 15:06               ` Trevor Wu (吳文良)
2022-12-14 12:02               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski [this message]
2022-12-14 12:02                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-12-14 12:02                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-12-19  5:35                 ` Trevor Wu (吳文良)
2022-12-19  5:35                   ` Trevor Wu (吳文良)
2022-12-19  5:35                   ` Trevor Wu (吳文良)
2022-12-08  3:31 ` [PATCH v3 11/12] ASoC: mediatek: mt8188: add machine driver with mt6359 Trevor Wu
2022-12-08  3:31   ` Trevor Wu
2022-12-08  3:31   ` Trevor Wu
2022-12-10 22:37   ` kernel test robot
2022-12-10 22:37     ` kernel test robot
2022-12-08  3:31 ` [PATCH v3 12/12] dt-bindings: mediatek: mt8188: add mt8188-mt6359 document Trevor Wu
2022-12-08  3:31   ` Trevor Wu
2022-12-08  3:31   ` Trevor Wu
2022-12-09 10:18   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-12-09 10:18     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-12-09 10:18     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-12-12 15:34     ` Trevor Wu (吳文良)
2022-12-12 15:34       ` Trevor Wu (吳文良)
2022-12-12 15:34       ` Trevor Wu (吳文良)
2022-12-13 13:37       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-12-13 13:37         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-12-13 13:37         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski

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