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From: "Dey, Megha" <megha.dey@linux.intel.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@mellanox.com>
Cc: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>, Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org>,
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	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
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	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 00/15] Add VFIO mediated device support and IMS support for the idxd driver.
Date: Sun, 3 May 2020 15:31:39 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5bc05b74-536f-f72d-c406-18644436f11b@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200503222229.GE19158@mellanox.com>


Hi Jason,

On 5/3/2020 3:22 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Fri, May 01, 2020 at 03:31:51PM -0700, Dey, Megha wrote:
>>>> This has been my concern reviewing the implementation. IMS needs more
>>>> than one in-tree user to validate degrees of freedom in the api. I had
>>>> been missing a second "in-tree user" to validate the scope of the
>>>> flexibility that was needed.
>>>
>>> IMS is too narrowly specified.
>>>
>>> All platforms that support MSI today can support IMS. It is simply a
>>> way for the platform to give the driver an addr/data pair that triggers
>>> an interrupt when a posted write is performed to that pair.
>>>
>>
>> Well, yes and no. IMS requires interrupt remapping in addition to the
>> dynamic nature of IRQ allocation.
> 
> You've mentioned remapping a few times, but I really can't understand
> why it has anything to do with platform_msi or IMS..

So after some internal discussions, we have concluded that IMS has no 
linkage with Interrupt remapping, IR is just a platform concept. IMS is 
just a name Intel came up with, all it really means is device managed 
addr/data writes to generate interrupts. Technically we can call 
something IMS even if device has its own location to store interrupts in 
non-pci standard mechanism, much like platform-msi indeed. We simply 
need to extend platform-msi to its address some of its shortcomings: 
increase number of interrupts to > 2048, enable dynamic allocation of 
interrupts, add mask/unmask callbacks in addition to write_msg etc.
FWIW, even MSI can be IMS with rules on how to manage the addr/data 
writes following pci sig .. its just that.

I will be sending out an email shortly outlining the new design for IMS 
(A.K.A platform-msi part 2) and what are the improvements we want to add 
to the already existing platform-msi infrastructure.

Thank you so much for your comments, it helped us iron out some of these 
details :)

> 
> Jason
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-03 22:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-21 23:33 [PATCH RFC 00/15] Add VFIO mediated device support and IMS support for the idxd driver Dave Jiang
2020-04-21 23:33 ` [PATCH RFC 01/15] drivers/base: Introduce platform_msi_ops Dave Jiang
2020-04-26  7:01   ` Greg KH
2020-04-27 21:38     ` Dave Jiang
2020-04-28  7:34       ` Greg KH
2020-04-21 23:33 ` [PATCH RFC 02/15] drivers/base: Introduce a new platform-msi list Dave Jiang
2020-04-25 21:13   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-04  0:08     ` Dey, Megha
2020-04-21 23:34 ` [PATCH RFC 03/15] drivers/base: Allocate/free platform-msi interrupts by group Dave Jiang
2020-04-25 21:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-04  0:08     ` Dey, Megha
2020-04-21 23:34 ` [PATCH RFC 04/15] drivers/base: Add support for a new IMS irq domain Dave Jiang
2020-04-23 20:11   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-05-01 22:30     ` Dey, Megha
2020-05-03 22:25       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-05-03 22:40         ` Dey, Megha
2020-05-03 22:46           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-05-04  0:25             ` Dey, Megha
2020-05-04 12:14               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-05-06 10:27                 ` Tian, Kevin
2020-04-25 21:38   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-04  0:11     ` Dey, Megha
2020-04-21 23:34 ` [PATCH RFC 05/15] ims-msi: Add mask/unmask routines Dave Jiang
2020-04-25 21:49   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-04  0:16     ` Dey, Megha
2020-04-21 23:34 ` [PATCH RFC 06/15] ims-msi: Enable IMS interrupts Dave Jiang
2020-04-25 22:13   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-04  0:17     ` Dey, Megha
2020-04-21 23:34 ` [PATCH RFC 07/15] Documentation: Interrupt Message store Dave Jiang
2020-04-23 20:04   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-05-01 22:32     ` Dey, Megha
2020-05-03 22:28       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-05-03 22:41         ` Dey, Megha
2020-04-21 23:34 ` [PATCH RFC 08/15] vfio/mdev: Add a member for iommu domain in mdev_device Dave Jiang
2020-04-21 23:34 ` [PATCH RFC 09/15] vfio/type1: Save domain when attach domain to mdev Dave Jiang
2020-04-21 23:34 ` [PATCH RFC 10/15] dmaengine: idxd: add config support for readonly devices Dave Jiang
2020-04-21 23:34 ` [PATCH RFC 11/15] dmaengine: idxd: add IMS support in base driver Dave Jiang
2020-04-21 23:35 ` [PATCH RFC 12/15] dmaengine: idxd: add device support functions in prep for mdev Dave Jiang
2020-04-21 23:35 ` [PATCH RFC 13/15] dmaengine: idxd: add support for VFIO mediated device Dave Jiang
2020-04-21 23:35 ` [PATCH RFC 14/15] dmaengine: idxd: add error notification from host driver to " Dave Jiang
2020-04-21 23:35 ` [PATCH RFC 15/15] dmaengine: idxd: add ABI documentation for mediated device support Dave Jiang
2020-04-21 23:54 ` [PATCH RFC 00/15] Add VFIO mediated device support and IMS support for the idxd driver Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-22  0:53   ` Tian, Kevin
2020-04-22 11:50     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-22 21:14       ` Raj, Ashok
2020-04-23 19:12         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-24  3:27           ` Tian, Kevin
2020-04-24 12:44             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-24 16:25               ` Tian, Kevin
2020-04-24 18:12                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-26  5:18                   ` Tian, Kevin
2020-04-26 19:13                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-27  3:43                       ` Alex Williamson
2020-04-27 11:58                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-27 13:19                           ` Alex Williamson
2020-04-27 13:22                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-27 14:18                               ` Alex Williamson
2020-04-27 14:25                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-27 15:41                                   ` Alex Williamson
2020-04-27 16:16                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-27 16:25                                       ` Dave Jiang
2020-04-27 21:56                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-29  9:42                               ` Tian, Kevin
2020-05-08 20:47                                 ` Raj, Ashok
2020-05-08 23:16                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-05-08 23:52                                     ` Dave Jiang
2020-05-09  0:09                                     ` Raj, Ashok
2020-05-09 12:21                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-05-13  2:29                                         ` Jason Wang
2020-05-13  8:30                                         ` Tian, Kevin
2020-05-13 12:40                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-27 12:13                       ` Tian, Kevin
2020-04-27 12:55                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-04-22 21:24   ` Dan Williams
2020-04-23 19:17     ` Dan Williams
2020-04-23 19:49       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-05-01 22:31         ` Dey, Megha
2020-05-03 22:21           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-05-03 22:32             ` Dey, Megha
2020-04-23 19:18     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-05-01 22:31       ` Dey, Megha
2020-05-03 22:22         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-05-03 22:31           ` Dey, Megha [this message]
2020-05-03 22:36             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-05-04  0:20               ` Dey, Megha
2020-04-22 23:04   ` Dey, Megha
2020-04-23 19:44     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-05-01 22:32       ` Dey, Megha
2020-04-24  6:31   ` Jason Wang

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