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From: "Dey, Megha" <megha.dey@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 02/18] irq/dev-msi: Add support for a new DEV_MSI irq domain
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 15:27:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <78a0cdd6-ba05-e153-b25e-2c0fe8c1e7b9@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h7tfh6fc.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>

Hi Thomas,

On 8/6/2020 1:21 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> Megha,
>
> "Dey, Megha" <megha.dey@intel.com> writes:
>> On 8/6/2020 10:10 AM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>> If the DEV/MSI domain has it's own per IR unit resource management, then
>>> you need one per IR unit.
>>>
>>> If the resource management is solely per device then having a domain per
>>> device is the right choice.
>> The dev-msi domain can be used by other devices if they too would want
>> to follow the vector->intel IR->dev-msi IRQ hierarchy.  I do create
>> one dev-msi IRQ domain instance per IR unit. So I guess for this case,
>> it makes most sense to have a dev-msi IRQ domain per IR unit as
>> opposed to create one per individual driver..
> I'm not really convinced. I looked at the idxd driver and that has it's
> own interrupt related resource management for the IMS slots and provides
> the mask,unmask callbacks for the interrupt chip via this crude platform
> data indirection.
>
> So I don't see the value of the dev-msi domain per IR unit. The domain
> itself does not provide much functionality other than indirections and
> you clearly need per device interrupt resource management on the side
> and a customized irq chip. I rather see it as a plain layering
> violation.
>
> The point is that your IDXD driver manages the per device IMS slots
> which is a interrupt related resource. The story would be different if
> the IMS slots would be managed by some central or per IR unit entity,
> but in that case you'd need IMS specific domain(s).
>
> So the obvious consequence of the hierarchical irq design is:
>
>     vector -> IR -> IDXD
>
> which makes the control flow of allocating an interrupt for a subdevice
> straight forward following the irq hierarchy rules.
>
> This still wants to inherit the existing msi domain functionality, but
> the amount of code required is small and removes all these pointless
> indirections and integrates the slot management naturally.
>
> If you expect or know that there are other devices coming up with IMS
> integrated then most of that code can be made a common library. But for
> this to make sense, you really want to make sure that these other
> devices do not require yet another horrible layer of indirection.
Yes Thomas, for now this may look odd since there is only one device 
using this
IRQ domain. But there will be other devices following suit, hence I have 
added
all the IRQ chip/domain bits in a separate file in drivers/irqchip in 
the next
version of patches. I'll submit the patches shortly and it will be great 
if I
can get more feedback on it.
> A side note: I just read back on the specification and stumbled over
> the following gem:
>
>   "IMS may also optionally support per-message masking and pending bit
>    status, similar to the per-vector mask and pending bit array in the
>    PCI Express MSI-X capability."
>
> Optionally? Please tell the hardware folks to make this mandatory. We
> have enough pain with non maskable MSI interrupts already so introducing
> yet another non maskable interrupt trainwreck is not an option.
>
> It's more than a decade now that I tell HW people not to repeat the
> non-maskable MSI failure, but obviously they still think that
> non-maskable interrupts are a brilliant idea. I know that HW folks
> believe that everything they omit can be fixed in software, but they
> have to finally understand that this particular issue _cannot_ be fixed
> at all.
hmm, I asked the hardware folks and they have informed me that all IMS 
devices
will support per vector masking/pending bit. This will be updated in the 
next SIOV
spec which will be published soon.
>
> Thanks,
>
>          tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-06 22:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-21 16:02 [PATCH RFC v2 00/18] Add VFIO mediated device support and DEV-MSI support for the idxd driver Dave Jiang
2020-07-21 16:02 ` [PATCH RFC v2 01/18] platform-msi: Introduce platform_msi_ops Dave Jiang
2020-07-21 16:02 ` [PATCH RFC v2 02/18] irq/dev-msi: Add support for a new DEV_MSI irq domain Dave Jiang
2020-07-21 16:13   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-07-22 16:50     ` Dey, Megha
2020-07-22 18:52   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-07-22 19:59     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-07-23  8:51       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-07-24  0:16         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-07-24  0:36           ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-05 19:18       ` Dey, Megha
2020-08-05 22:15         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-05 22:36           ` Dey, Megha
2020-08-05 22:53             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-06  0:13               ` Dey, Megha
2020-08-06  0:19                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-06  0:32                   ` Dey, Megha
2020-08-06  0:46                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-06 17:10                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-06 17:58                       ` Dey, Megha
2020-08-06 20:21                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-06 22:27                           ` Dey, Megha [this message]
2020-08-07  8:48                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-07 12:06                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-07 12:38                             ` gregkh
2020-08-07 13:34                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-07 16:47                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-07 17:54                                   ` Dey, Megha
2020-08-07 18:39                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-07 20:31                                       ` Dey, Megha
2020-08-08 19:47                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-10 21:46                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-11  9:53                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-11 18:46                                           ` Dey, Megha
2020-08-11 21:25                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-11 18:39                                       ` Dey, Megha
2020-08-11 22:39                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-07 15:22                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-05 18:55     ` Dey, Megha
2020-07-21 16:02 ` [PATCH RFC v2 03/18] irq/dev-msi: Create IR-DEV-MSI " Dave Jiang
2020-07-21 16:21   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-07-22 17:03     ` Dey, Megha
2020-07-22 17:33       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-07-22 20:44   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-05 19:02     ` Dey, Megha
2020-07-21 16:02 ` [PATCH RFC v2 04/18] irq/dev-msi: Introduce APIs to allocate/free dev-msi interrupts Dave Jiang
2020-07-21 16:25   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-07-22 17:05     ` Dey, Megha
2020-07-22 17:35       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-05 20:19         ` Dey, Megha
2020-07-21 16:02 ` [PATCH RFC v2 05/18] dmaengine: idxd: add support for readonly config devices Dave Jiang
2020-07-21 16:02 ` [PATCH RFC v2 06/18] dmaengine: idxd: add interrupt handle request support Dave Jiang
2020-07-21 16:03 ` [PATCH RFC v2 07/18] dmaengine: idxd: add DEV-MSI support in base driver Dave Jiang
2020-07-21 16:03 ` [PATCH RFC v2 08/18] dmaengine: idxd: add device support functions in prep for mdev Dave Jiang
2020-07-21 16:03 ` [PATCH RFC v2 09/18] dmaengine: idxd: add basic mdev registration and helper functions Dave Jiang
2020-07-21 16:03 ` [PATCH RFC v2 10/18] dmaengine: idxd: add emulation rw routines Dave Jiang
2020-07-21 16:03 ` [PATCH RFC v2 11/18] dmaengine: idxd: prep for virtual device commands Dave Jiang
2020-07-21 16:03 ` [PATCH RFC v2 12/18] dmaengine: idxd: virtual device commands emulation Dave Jiang
2020-07-21 16:03 ` [PATCH RFC v2 13/18] dmaengine: idxd: ims setup for the vdcm Dave Jiang
2020-07-21 16:03 ` [PATCH RFC v2 14/18] dmaengine: idxd: add mdev type as a new wq type Dave Jiang
2020-07-21 16:03 ` [PATCH RFC v2 15/18] dmaengine: idxd: add dedicated wq mdev type Dave Jiang
2020-07-21 16:04 ` [PATCH RFC v2 16/18] dmaengine: idxd: add new wq state for mdev Dave Jiang
2020-07-21 16:04 ` [PATCH RFC v2 17/18] dmaengine: idxd: add error notification from host driver to mediated device Dave Jiang
2020-07-21 16:04 ` [PATCH RFC v2 18/18] dmaengine: idxd: add ABI documentation for mediated device support Dave Jiang
2020-07-21 16:28 ` [PATCH RFC v2 00/18] Add VFIO mediated device support and DEV-MSI support for the idxd driver Greg KH
2020-07-21 17:17   ` Dave Jiang
2020-07-21 21:35   ` Dan Williams
2020-07-21 16:45 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-07-21 18:00   ` Dave Jiang
2020-07-22 17:31     ` Dey, Megha
2020-07-22 18:16       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-07-21 23:54   ` Tian, Kevin
2020-07-24  0:19     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-06  1:22       ` Alex Williamson
2020-08-07 12:19         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-10  7:32           ` Tian, Kevin
2020-08-11 17:00             ` Alex Williamson
2020-08-12  1:58               ` Tian, Kevin
2020-08-12  2:36                 ` Alex Williamson
2020-08-12  3:35                   ` Tian, Kevin
2020-08-12  3:28             ` Jason Wang
2020-08-12  4:05               ` Tian, Kevin
2020-08-13  4:33                 ` Jason Wang
2020-08-13  5:26                   ` Tian, Kevin
2020-08-13  6:01                     ` Jason Wang
2020-08-14 13:23                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-17  2:24                         ` Tian, Kevin
2020-08-14 13:35             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-17  2:12               ` Tian, Kevin
2020-08-18  0:43                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-18  1:09                   ` Tian, Kevin
2020-08-18 11:50                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-18 16:27                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-08-18 16:49                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-18 17:05                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-08-18 17:18                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-19  7:29                       ` Tian, Kevin

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