From: "Ananyev, Konstantin" <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
To: David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>
Cc: "dev@dpdk.org" <dev@dpdk.org>,
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Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 6/9] eal: register non-EAL threads as lcores
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 10:39:52 +0000 [thread overview]
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Marchand <david.marchand@redhat.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 10:24 AM
> To: Ananyev, Konstantin <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com>
> Cc: dev@dpdk.org; jerinjacobk@gmail.com; Richardson, Bruce <bruce.richardson@intel.com>; mdr@ashroe.eu; ktraynor@redhat.com;
> Stokes, Ian <ian.stokes@intel.com>; i.maximets@ovn.org; Thomas Monjalon <thomas@monjalon.net>; Mcnamara, John
> <john.mcnamara@intel.com>; Kovacevic, Marko <marko.kovacevic@intel.com>; Burakov, Anatoly <anatoly.burakov@intel.com>; Olivier
> Matz <olivier.matz@6wind.com>; Andrew Rybchenko <arybchenko@solarflare.com>; Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>
> Subject: Re: [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 6/9] eal: register non-EAL threads as lcores
>
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 3:16 PM Ananyev, Konstantin
> <konstantin.ananyev@intel.com> wrote:
> > > Even before this series, MP has no protection on lcore placing between
> > > primary and secondary processes.
> >
> > Agree, it is not a new problem, it has been there for a while.
> > Though making lcore assignment dynamic will make it more noticeable and harder to avoid.
> > With static only lcore distribution it is much easier to control things.
> >
> > > Personally, I have no use for DPDK MP and marking MP as not supporting
> > > this new feature is tempting for a first phase.
> > > If this is a strong requirement, I can look at it in a second phase.
> > > What do you think?
> >
> > In theory it is possible to mark this new API as not supported for MP.
> > At least for now. Though I think it is sort of temporal solution.
> > AFAIK, MP is used by customers, so sooner or later someone will hit that problem.
>
> I understand this argument.
> But then we don't see those customers giving feedback.
>
>
> > Let say, we do have pdump app/library in our mainline.
> > As I can see - it will be affected when users will start using this new dynamic lcore API
> > inside their apps.
>
> Supporting lcore allocation in MP requires exchanges between
> primary/secondary processes like what we have for memory allocations.
> It will be quite a beast to get to work fine, while not even knowing
> if people actually want to use both.
I don't think we need to re-implement RPC as we did for memory subsystem.
One relatively simple approach - move lcore_role[] and related lock into
shared memory (separate memzone or so).
I think it should help a lot and will solve majority of the problems.
One limitation - init/fini callbacks can be static only.
As the drawback, it will introduce change in current behaviour:
secondary process with lcore-mask that intersects with master lcore-mask
will fail to start.
Second approach - make lcore_id local process entity:
prohibit indexing by lcore_id in shared data structures.
Let say for mempool - make cache local (per process).
While that approach is probably more elegant and consistent,
it would require more work and will cause ABI (maybe API also) breakage.
> For v4, I added a check to exclude MP and the new API.
Do you mean - make this new dynamic-lcore API return an error if callied
from secondary process?
> I am still willing to help if people do care about using both features together.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-06-24 10:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 133+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-06-10 14:44 [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/7] Register external threads as lcore David Marchand
2020-06-10 14:45 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 1/7] eal: relocate per thread symbols to common David Marchand
2020-06-10 14:45 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 2/7] eal: fix multiple definition of per lcore thread id David Marchand
2020-06-15 6:46 ` Kinsella, Ray
2020-06-10 14:45 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 3/7] eal: introduce thread init helper David Marchand
2020-06-10 14:45 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 4/7] eal: introduce thread uninit helper David Marchand
2020-06-10 14:45 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 5/7] eal: register non-EAL threads as lcore David Marchand
2020-06-15 6:43 ` Kinsella, Ray
2020-06-10 14:45 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 6/7] eal: dump lcores David Marchand
2020-06-15 6:40 ` Kinsella, Ray
2020-06-10 14:45 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 7/7] eal: add lcore hotplug notifications David Marchand
2020-06-15 6:34 ` Kinsella, Ray
2020-06-15 7:13 ` David Marchand
2020-06-10 15:09 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH 0/7] Register external threads as lcore Jerin Jacob
2020-06-10 15:13 ` Bruce Richardson
2020-06-10 15:18 ` David Marchand
2020-06-10 15:33 ` Jerin Jacob
2020-06-15 7:11 ` David Marchand
2020-06-19 16:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 0/9] Register non-EAL " David Marchand
2020-06-19 16:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 1/9] eal: relocate per thread symbols to common David Marchand
2020-06-19 16:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 2/9] eal: fix multiple definition of per lcore thread id David Marchand
2020-06-19 16:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 3/9] eal: introduce thread init helper David Marchand
2020-06-19 16:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 4/9] eal: introduce thread uninit helper David Marchand
2020-06-19 16:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 5/9] eal: move lcore role code David Marchand
2020-06-19 16:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 6/9] eal: register non-EAL threads as lcores David Marchand
2020-06-19 16:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 7/9] eal: add lcore init callbacks David Marchand
2020-06-19 16:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 8/9] eal: add lcore iterators David Marchand
2020-06-20 2:21 ` Stephen Hemminger
2020-06-19 16:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v2 9/9] mempool/bucket: handle non-EAL lcores David Marchand
2020-06-22 13:25 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 0/9] Register non-EAL threads as lcore David Marchand
2020-06-22 13:25 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 1/9] eal: relocate per thread symbols to common David Marchand
2020-06-22 13:25 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 2/9] eal: fix multiple definition of per lcore thread id David Marchand
2020-06-22 13:25 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 3/9] eal: introduce thread init helper David Marchand
2020-06-22 13:25 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 4/9] eal: introduce thread uninit helper David Marchand
2020-06-22 13:25 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 5/9] eal: move lcore role code David Marchand
2020-06-22 13:25 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 6/9] eal: register non-EAL threads as lcores David Marchand
2020-06-22 15:49 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-06-22 16:37 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-06-23 7:49 ` David Marchand
2020-06-23 9:14 ` Bruce Richardson
2020-06-23 12:49 ` David Marchand
2020-06-23 13:15 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-06-24 9:23 ` David Marchand
2020-06-24 9:56 ` Bruce Richardson
2020-06-24 10:08 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-06-24 10:45 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-06-24 10:39 ` Ananyev, Konstantin [this message]
2020-06-24 10:48 ` David Marchand
2020-06-24 11:59 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-06-26 14:43 ` David Marchand
2020-06-30 10:35 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-06-30 12:07 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-06-30 12:44 ` Olivier Matz
2020-06-30 14:37 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-06-30 19:02 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-06-30 14:35 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-06-30 18:57 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-07-01 7:48 ` David Marchand
2020-07-01 11:58 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-07-02 13:06 ` David Marchand
2020-07-03 15:15 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-07-03 16:40 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-07-04 15:00 ` David Marchand
2020-07-04 21:24 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-06-23 17:02 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2020-06-22 13:25 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 7/9] eal: add lcore init callbacks David Marchand
2020-06-22 13:25 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 8/9] eal: add lcore iterators David Marchand
2020-06-22 13:25 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v3 9/9] mempool/bucket: handle non-EAL lcores David Marchand
2020-06-23 17:28 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2020-06-26 14:13 ` David Marchand
2020-06-26 14:34 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2020-06-26 14:47 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 0/9] Register non-EAL threads as lcore David Marchand
2020-06-26 14:47 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 1/9] eal: relocate per thread symbols to common David Marchand
2020-06-30 9:33 ` Olivier Matz
2020-06-26 14:47 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 2/9] eal: fix multiple definition of per lcore thread id David Marchand
2020-06-30 9:34 ` Olivier Matz
2020-06-26 14:47 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 3/9] eal: introduce thread init helper David Marchand
2020-06-30 9:37 ` Olivier Matz
2020-06-30 12:04 ` David Marchand
2020-06-26 14:47 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 4/9] eal: introduce thread uninit helper David Marchand
2020-06-26 15:00 ` Jerin Jacob
2020-06-29 9:07 ` David Marchand
2020-06-29 8:59 ` [dpdk-dev] [EXT] " Sunil Kumar Kori
2020-06-29 9:25 ` David Marchand
2020-06-30 9:42 ` [dpdk-dev] " Olivier Matz
2020-07-01 8:00 ` David Marchand
2020-06-26 14:47 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 5/9] eal: move lcore role code David Marchand
2020-06-30 9:45 ` Olivier Matz
2020-06-26 14:47 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 6/9] eal: register non-EAL threads as lcores David Marchand
2020-06-29 14:27 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-06-30 10:07 ` Olivier Matz
2020-07-01 7:13 ` David Marchand
2020-07-01 9:11 ` Olivier Matz
2020-06-26 14:47 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 7/9] eal: add lcore init callbacks David Marchand
2020-06-29 12:46 ` Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-06-30 10:09 ` Olivier Matz
2020-06-30 10:15 ` Olivier Matz
2020-06-26 14:47 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 8/9] eal: add lcore iterators David Marchand
2020-06-30 10:11 ` Olivier Matz
2020-06-26 14:47 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v4 9/9] mempool/bucket: handle non-EAL lcores David Marchand
2020-06-26 14:52 ` Andrew Rybchenko
2020-07-06 14:15 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 00/10] Register non-EAL threads as lcore David Marchand
2020-07-06 14:15 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 01/10] eal: relocate per thread symbols to common David Marchand
2020-07-06 14:15 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 02/10] eal: fix multiple definition of per lcore thread id David Marchand
2020-07-06 14:15 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 03/10] eal: introduce thread init helper David Marchand
2020-07-06 14:16 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 04/10] eal: introduce thread uninit helper David Marchand
2020-07-06 14:16 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 05/10] eal: move lcore role code David Marchand
2020-07-06 14:16 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 06/10] eal: register non-EAL threads as lcores David Marchand
2020-07-06 14:16 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 07/10] eal: add lcore init callbacks David Marchand
2020-07-06 14:16 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 08/10] eal: add lcore iterators David Marchand
2020-07-06 14:16 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 09/10] mempool/bucket: handle non-EAL lcores David Marchand
2020-07-06 14:16 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v5 10/10] eal: add multiprocess disable API David Marchand
2020-07-06 20:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 00/10] Register non-EAL threads as lcore David Marchand
2020-07-06 20:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 01/10] eal: relocate per thread symbols to common David Marchand
2020-07-06 20:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 02/10] eal: fix multiple definition of per lcore thread id David Marchand
2020-07-06 20:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 03/10] eal: introduce thread init helper David Marchand
2020-07-06 20:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 04/10] eal: introduce thread uninit helper David Marchand
2020-07-06 20:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 05/10] eal: move lcore role code David Marchand
2020-07-06 20:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 06/10] eal: register non-EAL threads as lcores David Marchand
2022-11-03 9:02 ` Morten Brørup
2022-11-03 10:15 ` Thomas Monjalon
2020-07-06 20:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 07/10] eal: add lcore init callbacks David Marchand
2022-12-15 9:05 ` Morten Brørup
2022-12-15 9:09 ` David Marchand
2022-12-15 10:21 ` Morten Brørup
2022-12-16 8:09 ` David Marchand
2022-12-16 9:55 ` Morten Brørup
2020-07-06 20:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 08/10] eal: add lcore iterators David Marchand
2020-07-06 20:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 09/10] mempool/bucket: handle non-EAL lcores David Marchand
2020-07-06 20:52 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 10/10] eal: add multiprocess disable API David Marchand
2020-07-06 23:22 ` [dpdk-dev] [PATCH v6 00/10] Register non-EAL threads as lcore Ananyev, Konstantin
2020-07-08 13:05 ` David Marchand
2020-07-08 13:06 ` David Marchand
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