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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	Daniel Stone <daniel@fooishbar.org>,
	"Olsak, Marek" <Marek.Olsak@amd.com>,
	Andrey Grodzovsky <Andrey.Grodzovsky@amd.com>
Cc: "Rob Clark" <robdclark@chromium.org>,
	"Sharma, Shashank" <Shashank.Sharma@amd.com>,
	"Christian König" <ckoenig.leichtzumerken@gmail.com>,
	"Amaranath Somalapuram" <amaranath.somalapuram@amd.com>,
	"Abhinav Kumar" <quic_abhinavk@quicinc.com>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"amd-gfx list" <amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Alexandar Deucher" <alexander.deucher@amd.com>,
	"Shashank Sharma" <contactshashanksharma@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] drm: Add GPU reset sysfs event
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 16:25:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5e7d4b55-99ca-5fa4-2995-5e42d0a29473@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKMK7uFMmLLRQeONDOMpOg12p7moyrC-+hxVEqpa4hSFopbGtA@mail.gmail.com>

[Adding Marek and Andrey as well]

Am 23.03.22 um 16:14 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
> On Wed, 23 Mar 2022 at 15:07, Daniel Stone <daniel@fooishbar.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 at 16:02, Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 2:30 AM Christian König
>>> <christian.koenig@amd.com> wrote:
>>>> Well you can, it just means that their contexts are lost as well.
>>> Which is rather inconvenient when deqp-egl reset tests, for example,
>>> take down your compositor ;-)
>> Yeah. Or anything WebGL.
>>
>> System-wide collateral damage is definitely a non-starter. If that
>> means that the userspace driver has to do what iris does and ensure
>> everything's recreated and resubmitted, that works too, just as long
>> as the response to 'my adblocker didn't detect a crypto miner ad'  is
>> something better than 'shoot the entire user session'.
> Not sure where that idea came from, I thought at least I made it clear
> that legacy gl _has_ to recover. It's only vk and arb_robustness gl
> which should die without recovery attempt.
>
> The entire discussion here is who should be responsible for replay and
> at least if you can decide the uapi, then punting that entirely to
> userspace is a good approach.

Yes, completely agree. We have the approach of re-submitting things in 
the kernel and that failed quite miserable.

In other words currently a GPU reset has something like a 99% chance to 
get down your whole desktop.

Daniel can you briefly explain what exactly iris does when a lost 
context is detected without gl robustness?

It sounds like you guys got that working quite well.

Thanks,
Christian.

>
> Ofc it'd be nice if the collateral damage is limited, i.e. requests
> not currently on the gpu, or on different engines and all that
> shouldn't be nuked, if possible.
>
> Also ofc since msm uapi is that the kernel tries to recover there's
> not much we can do there, contexts cannot be shot. But still trying to
> replay them as much as possible feels a bit like overkill.
> -Daniel
>
>> Cheers,
>> Daniel
>
>


  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-23 15:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-08 18:04 [PATCH v2 1/2] drm: Add GPU reset sysfs event Shashank Sharma
2022-03-08 18:04 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] drm/amdgpu: add work function for GPU reset event Shashank Sharma
2022-03-09  7:47 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] drm: Add GPU reset sysfs event Simon Ser
2022-03-09 11:18   ` Sharma, Shashank
2022-03-09  8:09 ` Christian König
2022-03-09  9:56 ` Pierre-Eric Pelloux-Prayer
2022-03-09 10:10   ` Simon Ser
2022-03-09 10:24     ` Christian König
2022-03-09 10:28       ` Simon Ser
2022-03-09 10:28       ` Pierre-Eric Pelloux-Prayer
2022-03-09 18:12 ` Rob Clark
2022-03-10  9:55   ` Christian König
2022-03-10 15:24     ` Rob Clark
2022-03-10 16:21       ` Sharma, Shashank
2022-03-10 16:27         ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2022-03-10 17:16           ` Rob Clark
2022-03-10 17:10         ` Rob Clark
2022-03-10 17:19           ` Sharma, Shashank
2022-03-10 17:40             ` Rob Clark
2022-03-10 18:33               ` Abhinav Kumar
2022-03-10 19:14                 ` Sharma, Shashank
2022-03-10 19:35                   ` Rob Clark
2022-03-10 19:44                     ` Sharma, Shashank
2022-03-10 19:56                       ` Rob Clark
2022-03-10 20:17                         ` Sharma, Shashank
2022-03-11  8:30                         ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-03-14 14:23                           ` Alex Deucher
2022-03-14 15:26                             ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-03-15 14:54                               ` Alex Deucher
2022-03-16  8:48                                 ` Pekka Paalanen
2022-03-16 14:12                                   ` Alex Deucher
2022-03-16 15:36                                     ` Rob Clark
2022-03-16 15:48                                       ` Alex Deucher
2022-03-16 16:30                                         ` Rob Clark
2022-03-17  7:03                                       ` Christian König
2022-03-17  9:29                                         ` Daniel Vetter
2022-03-17  9:46                                           ` Christian König
2022-03-17 15:34                                           ` Rob Clark
2022-03-17 17:23                                             ` Daniel Vetter
2022-03-17 15:40                                           ` Rob Clark
2022-03-17 17:26                                             ` Daniel Vetter
2022-03-17 17:31                                               ` Rob Clark
2022-03-18  7:42                                                 ` Christian König
2022-03-18 15:12                                                   ` Rob Clark
2022-03-21  9:30                                                     ` Christian König
2022-03-21 16:03                                                       ` Rob Clark
2022-03-23 14:07                                                         ` Daniel Stone
2022-03-23 15:14                                                           ` Daniel Vetter
2022-03-23 15:25                                                             ` Christian König [this message]
2022-03-26  0:53                                                               ` Olsak, Marek
2022-03-29 12:14                                                                 ` Christian König
2022-03-29 16:25                                                                   ` Marek Olšák
2022-03-30  9:49                                                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2022-03-23 17:30                                                             ` Rob Clark
2022-03-21 14:15                                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2022-03-15  7:13                             ` Dave Airlie
2022-03-15  7:25                               ` Simon Ser
2022-03-15  7:25                               ` Christian König
2022-03-17  9:25                             ` Daniel Vetter
2022-03-16 21:50 ` Rob Clark
2022-03-17  8:42   ` Sharma, Shashank
2022-03-17  9:21     ` Christian König
2022-03-17 10:31       ` Daniel Stone

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