From: Alex Deucher <alexdeucher@gmail.com>
To: Rui Salvaterra <rsalvaterra@gmail.com>
Cc: "Christian König" <ckoenig.leichtzumerken@gmail.com>,
"debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org"
<debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org>,
"Maling list - DRI developers" <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
"John Paul Adrian Glaubitz" <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Remove AGP support from Radeon/Nouveau/TTM
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 16:51:40 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADnq5_M61r7CMtfMBx6Cf_N9SnJJn0PouiMjVg8wytEMF1YZfw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALjTZvZcg60rgDux7+Kh3zaMBkd-OiqoJ7GyYrLxfvnwgc4Xng@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 4:25 PM Rui Salvaterra <rsalvaterra@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> A segunda, 11/05/2020, 21:21, Alex Deucher <alexdeucher@gmail.com> escreveu:
>>
>>
>>
>> Note there is no loss of functionality here, at least on radeon
>> hardware. It just comes down to which MMU gets used for access to
>> system memory, the AGP MMU on the chipset or the MMU built into the
>> GPU. On powerpc hardware, AGP has been particularly unstable, and
>> IIRC, AGP has been disabled by default on radeon on powerpc for a
>> while.
>
>
> So this basically just drops support for the AGP GART? What happens to the AGP signalling rates (beyond the base rate)?
I don't remember enough of the details, but I strongly doubt it was
related to which MMU was used per se. On r1xx/r2xx parts, AGP was
effectively the non-snooped route to memory and the internal MMU only
provided snooped (coherent) access to memory. That and the limited
TLB space are probably want limited performance in that case. I don't
recall what sort of TLBs the chipset GART tables provided. On r3xx
and newer the, on-chip MMU supported both snooped and unsnooped
transactions and had more TLB space so the difference wasn't
significant IIRC.
Alex
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Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-11 19:55 [RFC] Remove AGP support from Radeon/Nouveau/TTM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-05-11 20:05 ` Alex Deucher
2020-05-11 20:25 ` Rui Salvaterra
2020-05-11 20:51 ` Alex Deucher [this message]
2020-05-12 7:57 ` Michel Dänzer
2020-05-12 9:21 ` Rui Salvaterra
2020-05-12 9:40 ` Karoly Balogh (Charlie/SGR)
2020-05-12 13:22 ` Alex Deucher
2020-05-12 16:37 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-05-12 17:02 ` Rui Salvaterra
2020-05-12 18:21 ` Alex Deucher
2020-05-12 20:12 ` Dave Airlie
2020-05-13 7:26 ` Christian König
2020-05-12 18:22 ` Alex Deucher
2020-05-13 7:19 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-05-13 7:55 ` Christian König
2020-05-13 10:25 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-05-13 9:28 ` Rui Salvaterra
2020-05-13 10:26 ` Michel Dänzer
2020-05-13 10:29 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-05-13 10:32 ` Michel Dänzer
2020-05-13 10:39 ` Rui Salvaterra
2020-05-13 10:57 ` Michel Dänzer
2020-05-13 11:07 ` Rui Salvaterra
2020-05-13 13:44 ` Christian Zigotzky
2020-05-13 14:01 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-05-13 14:01 ` Rui Salvaterra
2020-05-13 20:19 ` Bertrand Dekoninck
2020-05-13 20:36 ` Rui Salvaterra
2020-05-11 20:41 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-05-11 20:46 ` Alex Deucher
2020-05-11 21:50 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-05-12 7:43 ` Christian König
2020-05-11 20:12 ` Christian König
2020-05-11 20:24 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-05-11 20:48 ` Gerhard Pircher
2020-05-12 5:04 ` David VANTYGHEM
2020-05-12 9:20 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-05-11 17:17 Christian König
2020-05-11 20:14 ` Al Dunsmuir
2020-05-11 20:27 ` Alex Deucher
2020-05-11 20:43 ` Dave Airlie
2020-05-11 20:56 ` Al Dunsmuir
2020-05-12 8:11 ` Christian König
2020-05-11 20:59 ` Emil Velikov
2020-05-11 20:46 ` Al Dunsmuir
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