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From: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>
To: "Christian König" <ckoenig.leichtzumerken@gmail.com>
Cc: "debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org"
	<debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org>,
	Maling list - DRI developers <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Remove AGP support from Radeon/Nouveau/TTM
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 21:55:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d249c339-fa3f-4440-bbc8-c9cf08338174@physik.fu-berlin.de> (raw)

Hi Christian!

> Well let's face it AGP is a total headache to maintain and dead for at least 10+ years.
>
> We have a lot of x86 specific stuff in the architecture independent graphics memory management
> to get the caching right, abusing the DMA API on multiple occasions, need to distinct between
> AGP and driver specific page tables etc etc...

AGP isn't exclusively used on x86 but there are also a lot of PowerPC desktop machines (Apple
PowerMac, Pegasos etc) that employ AGP graphics.

> So the idea here is to just go ahead and remove the support from Radeon and Nouveau and
> then drop the necessary code from TTM.
> For Radeon this means that we just switch over to the driver specific page tables and
> everything should more or less continue to work.
>
> For Nouveau I'm not 100% sure, but from the code it of hand looks like we can do it similar to Radeon.
>
> Please comment what you think about this.

I would be against such a move as AGP graphics is still used by people running the powerpc
and ppc64 Debian ports on their vintage hardware [1].

I have also CC'ed the debian-powerpc mailing list so that other users can voice their
opinion.

Thanks,
Adrian

> [1] https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/2020-04-19/

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             reply	other threads:[~2020-05-11 20:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-11 19:55 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz [this message]
2020-05-11 20:05 ` [RFC] Remove AGP support from Radeon/Nouveau/TTM Alex Deucher
2020-05-11 20:25   ` Rui Salvaterra
2020-05-11 20:51     ` Alex Deucher
2020-05-12  7:57       ` Michel Dänzer
2020-05-12  9:21         ` Rui Salvaterra
2020-05-12  9:40           ` Karoly Balogh (Charlie/SGR)
2020-05-12 13:22             ` Alex Deucher
2020-05-12 16:37               ` Daniel Vetter
2020-05-12 17:02                 ` Rui Salvaterra
2020-05-12 18:21                   ` Alex Deucher
2020-05-12 20:12                     ` Dave Airlie
2020-05-13  7:26                       ` Christian König
2020-05-12 18:22                 ` Alex Deucher
2020-05-13  7:19                   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-05-13  7:55                     ` Christian König
2020-05-13 10:25                       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-05-13  9:28                     ` Rui Salvaterra
2020-05-13 10:26                       ` Michel Dänzer
2020-05-13 10:29                         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-05-13 10:32                           ` Michel Dänzer
2020-05-13 10:39                         ` Rui Salvaterra
2020-05-13 10:57                           ` Michel Dänzer
2020-05-13 11:07                             ` Rui Salvaterra
2020-05-13 13:44                               ` Christian Zigotzky
2020-05-13 14:01                                 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-05-13 14:01                                 ` Rui Salvaterra
2020-05-13 20:19                                   ` Bertrand Dekoninck
2020-05-13 20:36                                     ` Rui Salvaterra
2020-05-11 20:41   ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-05-11 20:46     ` Alex Deucher
2020-05-11 21:50       ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-05-12  7:43       ` Christian König
2020-05-11 20:12 ` Christian König
2020-05-11 20:24   ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2020-05-11 20:48     ` Gerhard Pircher
2020-05-12  5:04 ` David VANTYGHEM
2020-05-12  9:20   ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-05-11 17:17 Christian König
2020-05-11 20:14 ` Al Dunsmuir
2020-05-11 20:27   ` Alex Deucher
2020-05-11 20:43     ` Dave Airlie
2020-05-11 20:56       ` Al Dunsmuir
2020-05-12  8:11         ` Christian König
2020-05-11 20:59       ` Emil Velikov
2020-05-11 20:46     ` Al Dunsmuir

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