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From: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
Cc: Benjamin Berg <bberg@redhat.com>, David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Christian Kellner <ckellner@redhat.com>,
	Javier Martinez Canillas <javierm@redhat.com>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	Nitin Joshi1 <njoshi1@lenovo.com>,
	Rajat Jain <rajatja@google.com>,
	Mark Pearson <mpearson@lenovo.com>
Subject: Re: RFC: Drm-connector properties managed by another driver / privacy screen support
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 13:56:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e91b5d9b-6f7a-92f4-7a9b-babf4209eed2@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a053e2a7-77c8-8874-eaf8-afe970ad8f9c@redhat.com>

Hi,

On 4/15/20 1:39 PM, Hans de Goede wrote:

<snip>
>>> /* Add comment explaining why we need this messy stuff here */
>>> const char * const shadow_providers[] = {
>>> #ifdef CONFIG_THINKPAD_ACPI_MODULE
>>>          "thinkpad_acpi",
>>> #endif
>>> #ifdef CONFIG_OTHER_MODULE
>>>          "other",
>>> #endif
>>>          NULL
>>> };
>>>
>>> int module_init(void)
>>> {
>>>          /* do actual setup of the ?class? */
>>>
>>>          for (i = 0; shadow_providers[i]; i++)
>>>                  request_module(shadow_providers[i]);
>>>
>>>          return 0;
>>> }
>>
>> Hm I think explicitly loading drivers feels very much not device model
>> like. Don't these drivers auto-load, matching on acpi functions?
> 
> thinkpad_acpi does autoload based on a number of ACPI device-ids,
> the idea behind the above request_module is to avoid the need
> to have the acpi-match function you mentioned above.
> 
> Basically what would happen is e.g. :
> 
> 1. i915 loads, calls lcdshadow_get(dev, "eDP-1");
> 2. if this is the first lcdshadow_get() call then
>     the lcdshadow core will do the request_module calls,
>     allowing any of these modules to get loaded + probed and
>     call e.g. lcdshadow_register(&mylcdshadowdev, <gfx-adapter-dev-name>, "eDP-1");
> 3. After the request modules the lcdshadow_get() will walk over
>     the list of registered devices, including the ones just registered
>     by the request_module calls and then hopefully find a match
> 
> So by doing the request-module calls before checking for
> a matching lcdshadow dev, we avoid the need of having some of
> the knowledge currently abstracted away in the thinkpad_acpi driver
> duplicated inside the drm code somewhere.
> 
>> I guess if that doesn't exist, then we'd need to fix that one first :-/
>> In general no request_module please, that shouldn't be needed either.
>>
>> The trouble with request_module is also that (afaiui) it doesn't
>> really work well with parallel module load and all that, for
>> EPROBE_DEFER to work we do need to be able to answer "should we have a
>> driver?" independently of whether that driver has loaded already or
>> not.
> 
> The idea here is to avoid using EPROBE_DEFER (on x86 at least)
> and either directly return the lcdshadow_dev or ENOENT. Also
> see below.

<snip>

> Assuming we are going to add some device/model specific
> lcdshadow knowledge inside the lcdshadow core as you
> suggested with your "small acpi match function" above,
> we could do something similar to what the vga_switcheroo
> code is doing for this and have a lcdshadow_defer_probe()
> helper and call that really early in i915_pci_probe(),
> which currently already has this for the vgaswitcheroo case:
> 
>          if (vga_switcheroo_client_probe_defer(pdev))
>                  return -EPROBE_DEFER;

So thinking more about this and given the total lack of
EPROBE_DEFER handling in the 3 major X86 GPU/kms drivers
I think that adding a lcdshadow_defer_probe() helper is
the way to go. This will also avoid the need for duplicating
the lcdshadow detect functionality in the small ACPI-match
functions you mentioned (although that might still be
interesting to speedup the boot).

When everything is builtin then each enabled "module"-s
module_init function will get called, we can call a
lcdshadow_probe_done("module-name") function from those
and the lcdshadow core can then track if all potential
lcdhadow providers have initialized before it stops
returning non 0 from lcdshadow_defer_probe().

Or if we still do the small match functions it could
be even smarter with this...

And for the modular case it can call request_module on
all (enabled as module) potential lcdhadow providers
(or again we could rely on the small match function
instead).

Then (on x86 at least) we can have lcdshadow_get never
return -EPROBE_DEFER and avoid the need to solve the
lack of EPROBE_DEFER support in the 3 major x86 drivers.

And this is all kernel internal, so if that lack of
EPROBE_DEFER support ever gets fixed then we can drop
the lcdshadow_defer_probe() hack and make
lcdshadow_get also return -EPROBE_DEFER on x86 in
some cases.

Regards,

Hans

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-15 11:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-15  9:42 RFC: Drm-connector properties managed by another driver / privacy screen support Hans de Goede
2020-04-15  9:52 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-04-15 10:11   ` Hans de Goede
2020-04-15 10:22     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-04-15 11:39       ` Hans de Goede
2020-04-15 11:56         ` Hans de Goede [this message]
2020-04-15 12:01         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-04-15 13:02           ` Hans de Goede
2020-04-15 17:54             ` Daniel Vetter
2020-04-15 18:19               ` Hans de Goede
2020-04-15 18:29                 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-04-15 19:50                   ` Hans de Goede
2020-04-16  6:46                     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-04-15 15:28 ` Jani Nikula
2020-04-15 15:40   ` Hans de Goede
2020-04-15 17:14     ` [External] " Mark Pearson
2020-04-15 18:06       ` Hans de Goede
2020-04-15 19:20     ` Rajat Jain
2020-04-15 21:10       ` Jani Nikula
2020-04-15 21:21         ` Hans de Goede
2020-04-15 21:51           ` [External] " Mark Pearson
2020-04-17  9:05         ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-04-17  9:02     ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-04-17 11:55       ` Jani Nikula
2020-04-17 14:18         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-04-17 14:54           ` Benjamin Berg
2020-04-21 12:37         ` Hans de Goede
2020-04-21 12:40           ` Daniel Vetter
2020-04-21 14:46           ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-04-23 18:21             ` Rajat Jain
2020-04-24  7:40               ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-04-24  8:24                 ` Hans de Goede
2020-04-24  9:08                   ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-04-24 10:32                     ` Hans de Goede
2020-04-17 14:17       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-04-20  8:27         ` Operating KMS UAPI (Re: RFC: Drm-connector properties managed by another driver / privacy screen support) Pekka Paalanen
2020-04-20 10:04           ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-04-20 10:18             ` Simon Ser
2020-04-21 12:15             ` Daniel Vetter
2020-04-21 14:33               ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-04-21 14:39                 ` Simon Ser
2020-04-23 15:01                 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-04-24  8:32                   ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-04-28 14:51                     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-04-29 10:07                       ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-04-30 13:53                         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-05-04  9:49                           ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-05-04 11:00                             ` Daniel Vetter
2020-05-04 12:22                               ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-05-05  8:48                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-05-07  9:03                                   ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-04-20 10:15           ` Simon Ser
2020-04-20 12:22             ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-04-20 12:33               ` Simon Ser

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