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From: Dragan Simic <dsimic@manjaro.org>
To: Alexey Charkov <alchark@gmail.com>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Chen-Yu Tsai <wens@kernel.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/5] arm64: dts: rockchip: enable built-in thermal monitoring on RK3588
Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2024 09:21:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <edb0ba399467359e16e50c89a1671b7f@manjaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABjd4YxhL7m-neLFCQG5Aja2=stFdou7ji8m==UGPSSH-CybVw@mail.gmail.com>

On 2024-03-01 08:51, Alexey Charkov wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 10:14 AM Dragan Simic <dsimic@manjaro.org> 
> wrote:
>> On 2024-03-01 06:20, Alexey Charkov wrote:
>> > On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 1:11 AM Dragan Simic <dsimic@manjaro.org> wrote:
>> >> See, I'm not a native English speaker, but I've spent a lot of time
>> >> and effort improving my English skills.  Thus, perhaps these comments
>> >> may or may not seem like unnecessary nitpicking, depending on how much
>> >> someone pays attention to writing style in general, but I'll risk to
>> >> be annoying and state these comments anyway. :)
>> >>
>> >> The comment above could be written in a much more condensed form like
>> >> this, which would also be a bit more accurate:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>                                 /* IPA threshold, when IPA governor is
>> >> used */
>> >>
>> >> IOW, we're writing all this for someone to read later, but we should
>> >> (and can) perfectly reasonably expect some already existing background
>> >> knowledge from the readers.  In other words, we should be as concise
>> >> as possible.
>> >
>> > In fact, the power allocation governor code itself doesn't call those
>> > trips threshold or target as your suggested wording would imply.
>> > Instead, it calls them "switch on temperature" and "maximum desired
>> > temperature" [1]. Maybe we can call them that in the comments (and
>> > also avoid calling the governor IPA, because upstream code only calls
>> > it a "power allocator").
>> 
>> Hmm, but "IPA" is still mentioned in exactly three places in the files
>> under drivers/thermal.  I think that warrants the use of "IPA", which
>> is also widely used pretty much everywhere.
>> 
>> Perhaps a win-win would be to have only the very first of the comments
>> like this, to introduce "IPA" as an acronym:
>> 
>>                                    /* Power allocator (IPA) thermal
>> governor       */
>>                                    /* switch-on point, when IPA 
>> governor
>> is used   */
> 
> Yes, good point, thanks!

I'm glad that you agree. :)

>> Next, "the target temperature" is mentioned more than a few times in
>> drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c, which I believe makes the use
>> of "IPA target" perfectly valid.  Actually, let's use "IPA target
>> temperature", if you agree, to make it self descriptive.
> 
> Or perhaps simply "target temperature"? Stepwise governor will also
> use this trip as its target, so it's not IPA specific, unlike the
> switch-on point.

I also had similar thoughts about the shared nature.  I agree, just
"/* target temperature */" would be fine.

>> Finally, the threshold...  Based on
>> drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c,
>> I think "IPA switch-on point" would be a good choice, which I already
>> used above in the proposed opening comment.
> 
> Agreed, that sounds good to me, will reflect in the next iteration.
> Thanks for bringing it up!

Great, thanks!

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From: Dragan Simic <dsimic@manjaro.org>
To: Alexey Charkov <alchark@gmail.com>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Chen-Yu Tsai <wens@kernel.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/5] arm64: dts: rockchip: enable built-in thermal monitoring on RK3588
Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2024 09:21:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <edb0ba399467359e16e50c89a1671b7f@manjaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABjd4YxhL7m-neLFCQG5Aja2=stFdou7ji8m==UGPSSH-CybVw@mail.gmail.com>

On 2024-03-01 08:51, Alexey Charkov wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 10:14 AM Dragan Simic <dsimic@manjaro.org> 
> wrote:
>> On 2024-03-01 06:20, Alexey Charkov wrote:
>> > On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 1:11 AM Dragan Simic <dsimic@manjaro.org> wrote:
>> >> See, I'm not a native English speaker, but I've spent a lot of time
>> >> and effort improving my English skills.  Thus, perhaps these comments
>> >> may or may not seem like unnecessary nitpicking, depending on how much
>> >> someone pays attention to writing style in general, but I'll risk to
>> >> be annoying and state these comments anyway. :)
>> >>
>> >> The comment above could be written in a much more condensed form like
>> >> this, which would also be a bit more accurate:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>                                 /* IPA threshold, when IPA governor is
>> >> used */
>> >>
>> >> IOW, we're writing all this for someone to read later, but we should
>> >> (and can) perfectly reasonably expect some already existing background
>> >> knowledge from the readers.  In other words, we should be as concise
>> >> as possible.
>> >
>> > In fact, the power allocation governor code itself doesn't call those
>> > trips threshold or target as your suggested wording would imply.
>> > Instead, it calls them "switch on temperature" and "maximum desired
>> > temperature" [1]. Maybe we can call them that in the comments (and
>> > also avoid calling the governor IPA, because upstream code only calls
>> > it a "power allocator").
>> 
>> Hmm, but "IPA" is still mentioned in exactly three places in the files
>> under drivers/thermal.  I think that warrants the use of "IPA", which
>> is also widely used pretty much everywhere.
>> 
>> Perhaps a win-win would be to have only the very first of the comments
>> like this, to introduce "IPA" as an acronym:
>> 
>>                                    /* Power allocator (IPA) thermal
>> governor       */
>>                                    /* switch-on point, when IPA 
>> governor
>> is used   */
> 
> Yes, good point, thanks!

I'm glad that you agree. :)

>> Next, "the target temperature" is mentioned more than a few times in
>> drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c, which I believe makes the use
>> of "IPA target" perfectly valid.  Actually, let's use "IPA target
>> temperature", if you agree, to make it self descriptive.
> 
> Or perhaps simply "target temperature"? Stepwise governor will also
> use this trip as its target, so it's not IPA specific, unlike the
> switch-on point.

I also had similar thoughts about the shared nature.  I agree, just
"/* target temperature */" would be fine.

>> Finally, the threshold...  Based on
>> drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c,
>> I think "IPA switch-on point" would be a good choice, which I already
>> used above in the proposed opening comment.
> 
> Agreed, that sounds good to me, will reflect in the next iteration.
> Thanks for bringing it up!

Great, thanks!

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From: Dragan Simic <dsimic@manjaro.org>
To: Alexey Charkov <alchark@gmail.com>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Chen-Yu Tsai <wens@kernel.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/5] arm64: dts: rockchip: enable built-in thermal monitoring on RK3588
Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2024 09:21:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <edb0ba399467359e16e50c89a1671b7f@manjaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABjd4YxhL7m-neLFCQG5Aja2=stFdou7ji8m==UGPSSH-CybVw@mail.gmail.com>

On 2024-03-01 08:51, Alexey Charkov wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 10:14 AM Dragan Simic <dsimic@manjaro.org> 
> wrote:
>> On 2024-03-01 06:20, Alexey Charkov wrote:
>> > On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 1:11 AM Dragan Simic <dsimic@manjaro.org> wrote:
>> >> See, I'm not a native English speaker, but I've spent a lot of time
>> >> and effort improving my English skills.  Thus, perhaps these comments
>> >> may or may not seem like unnecessary nitpicking, depending on how much
>> >> someone pays attention to writing style in general, but I'll risk to
>> >> be annoying and state these comments anyway. :)
>> >>
>> >> The comment above could be written in a much more condensed form like
>> >> this, which would also be a bit more accurate:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>                                 /* IPA threshold, when IPA governor is
>> >> used */
>> >>
>> >> IOW, we're writing all this for someone to read later, but we should
>> >> (and can) perfectly reasonably expect some already existing background
>> >> knowledge from the readers.  In other words, we should be as concise
>> >> as possible.
>> >
>> > In fact, the power allocation governor code itself doesn't call those
>> > trips threshold or target as your suggested wording would imply.
>> > Instead, it calls them "switch on temperature" and "maximum desired
>> > temperature" [1]. Maybe we can call them that in the comments (and
>> > also avoid calling the governor IPA, because upstream code only calls
>> > it a "power allocator").
>> 
>> Hmm, but "IPA" is still mentioned in exactly three places in the files
>> under drivers/thermal.  I think that warrants the use of "IPA", which
>> is also widely used pretty much everywhere.
>> 
>> Perhaps a win-win would be to have only the very first of the comments
>> like this, to introduce "IPA" as an acronym:
>> 
>>                                    /* Power allocator (IPA) thermal
>> governor       */
>>                                    /* switch-on point, when IPA 
>> governor
>> is used   */
> 
> Yes, good point, thanks!

I'm glad that you agree. :)

>> Next, "the target temperature" is mentioned more than a few times in
>> drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c, which I believe makes the use
>> of "IPA target" perfectly valid.  Actually, let's use "IPA target
>> temperature", if you agree, to make it self descriptive.
> 
> Or perhaps simply "target temperature"? Stepwise governor will also
> use this trip as its target, so it's not IPA specific, unlike the
> switch-on point.

I also had similar thoughts about the shared nature.  I agree, just
"/* target temperature */" would be fine.

>> Finally, the threshold...  Based on
>> drivers/thermal/gov_power_allocator.c,
>> I think "IPA switch-on point" would be a good choice, which I already
>> used above in the proposed opening comment.
> 
> Agreed, that sounds good to me, will reflect in the next iteration.
> Thanks for bringing it up!

Great, thanks!

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-01  8:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-29 19:26 [PATCH v3 0/5] RK3588 and Rock 5B dts additions: thermal, OPP and fan Alexey Charkov
2024-02-29 19:26 ` Alexey Charkov
2024-02-29 19:26 ` Alexey Charkov
2024-02-29 19:26 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] arm64: dts: rockchip: enable built-in thermal monitoring on RK3588 Alexey Charkov
2024-02-29 19:26   ` Alexey Charkov
2024-02-29 19:26   ` Alexey Charkov
2024-02-29 20:21   ` Dragan Simic
2024-02-29 20:21     ` Dragan Simic
2024-02-29 20:21     ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01  5:12     ` Alexey Charkov
2024-03-01  5:12       ` Alexey Charkov
2024-03-01  5:12       ` Alexey Charkov
2024-03-01  5:51       ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01  5:51         ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01  5:51         ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01  8:25         ` Alexey Charkov
2024-03-01  8:25           ` Alexey Charkov
2024-03-01  8:25           ` Alexey Charkov
2024-03-01  8:52           ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01  8:52             ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01  8:52             ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01  9:24             ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01  9:24               ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01  9:24               ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01 11:10             ` Alexey Charkov
2024-03-01 11:10               ` Alexey Charkov
2024-03-01 11:10               ` Alexey Charkov
2024-03-01 12:02               ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2024-03-01 12:02                 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2024-03-01 12:02                 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2024-03-01 13:11                 ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01 13:11                   ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01 13:11                   ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01 12:34               ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01 12:34                 ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01 12:34                 ` Dragan Simic
2024-02-29 21:11   ` Dragan Simic
2024-02-29 21:11     ` Dragan Simic
2024-02-29 21:11     ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01  5:20     ` Alexey Charkov
2024-03-01  5:20       ` Alexey Charkov
2024-03-01  5:20       ` Alexey Charkov
2024-03-01  6:14       ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01  6:14         ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01  6:14         ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01  7:51         ` Alexey Charkov
2024-03-01  7:51           ` Alexey Charkov
2024-03-01  7:51           ` Alexey Charkov
2024-03-01  8:21           ` Dragan Simic [this message]
2024-03-01  8:21             ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01  8:21             ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-02 11:25   ` Heiko Stuebner
2024-03-02 11:25     ` Heiko Stuebner
2024-03-02 11:25     ` Heiko Stuebner
2024-03-02 18:38     ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-02 18:38       ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-02 18:38       ` Dragan Simic
2024-02-29 19:26 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] arm64: dts: rockchip: enable automatic active cooling on Rock 5B Alexey Charkov
2024-02-29 19:26   ` Alexey Charkov
2024-02-29 19:26   ` Alexey Charkov
2024-02-29 21:25   ` Dragan Simic
2024-02-29 21:25     ` Dragan Simic
2024-02-29 21:25     ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01  5:21     ` Alexey Charkov
2024-03-01  5:21       ` Alexey Charkov
2024-03-01  5:21       ` Alexey Charkov
2024-03-01  6:17       ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01  6:17         ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01  6:17         ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01  8:25         ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01  8:25           ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01  8:25           ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01  8:30           ` Alexey Charkov
2024-03-01  8:30             ` Alexey Charkov
2024-03-01  8:30             ` Alexey Charkov
2024-03-01  9:32             ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01  9:32               ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01  9:32               ` Dragan Simic
2024-02-29 19:26 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add CPU/memory regulator coupling for RK3588 Alexey Charkov
2024-02-29 19:26   ` Alexey Charkov
2024-02-29 19:26   ` Alexey Charkov
2024-03-01  8:13   ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01  8:13     ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01  8:13     ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-11 10:24     ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-11 10:24       ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-11 10:24       ` Dragan Simic
2024-02-29 19:26 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add OPP data for CPU cores on RK3588 Alexey Charkov
2024-02-29 19:26   ` Alexey Charkov
2024-02-29 19:26   ` Alexey Charkov
2024-03-01  6:31   ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01  6:31     ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01  6:31     ` Dragan Simic
2024-02-29 19:26 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add further granularity in RK3588 CPU OPPs Alexey Charkov
2024-02-29 19:26   ` Alexey Charkov
2024-02-29 19:26   ` Alexey Charkov
2024-03-01  6:36   ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01  6:36     ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-01  6:36     ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-04 17:50 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] RK3588 and Rock 5B dts additions: thermal, OPP and fan Sebastian Reichel
2024-03-04 17:50   ` Sebastian Reichel
2024-03-04 17:50   ` Sebastian Reichel
2024-03-05  8:06   ` Alexey Charkov
2024-03-05  8:06     ` Alexey Charkov
2024-03-05  8:06     ` Alexey Charkov
2024-03-07 12:38     ` Alexey Charkov
2024-03-07 12:38       ` Alexey Charkov
2024-03-07 12:38       ` Alexey Charkov
2024-03-07 14:21       ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-07 14:21         ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-07 14:21         ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-11  7:08         ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-11  7:08           ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-11  7:08           ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-07 22:16       ` Sebastian Reichel
2024-03-07 22:16         ` Sebastian Reichel
2024-03-07 22:16         ` Sebastian Reichel
2024-03-13 16:39         ` Sebastian Reichel
2024-03-13 16:39           ` Sebastian Reichel
2024-03-13 16:39           ` Sebastian Reichel
2024-03-13 16:44           ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-13 16:44             ` Dragan Simic
2024-03-13 16:44             ` Dragan Simic
2024-04-10  9:19 ` Diederik de Haas
2024-04-10  9:19   ` Diederik de Haas
2024-04-10  9:19   ` Diederik de Haas
2024-04-10  9:28   ` Dragan Simic
2024-04-10  9:28     ` Dragan Simic
2024-04-10  9:28     ` Dragan Simic
2024-04-20 17:53     ` Diederik de Haas
2024-04-20 17:53       ` Diederik de Haas
2024-04-20 17:53       ` Diederik de Haas
2024-04-21 16:07       ` Dragan Simic
2024-04-21 16:07         ` Dragan Simic
2024-04-21 16:07         ` Dragan Simic

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